Should the journalists that won the Pulitzer for the Russian Collusion story give back their awards ?

[berg80]

We are past the denial phase

Apparently you aren't.

 

[Correll]

Racial discrimination in hiring remains a persistent problem​

Despite new laws and changing attitudes, little has changed in 25 years

Racial discrimination in hiring remains a persistent problem

Decades after hiring discrimination was made illegal in many Western countries, experts predicted it would gradually disappear. But according to a major new meta-analysis from Northwestern University, discrimination in hiring has remained a persistent problem. In fact, with few exceptions, rates...

news.northwestern.edu

So, you want to keep doing this current system because it has failed completely?


Interesting defense.

 

[berg80]

We are past the denial phase, now into,

"yes, we all knew that and it's normal" phase.

Please keep up.


The question now is, what do we do about it.

I think that all the people NOT obama should do serious jail time.

Like, decades.

Remember John Durham? He was Billy the Bagman's hand pick hack assigned to find something Dotard could use in the 2020 campaign proving the Obama admin had tried to railroad trump. From AI............

In May 2019, Attorney General William Barr assigned John Durham, the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut, to review the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation. Later, in October 2020, Barr appointed Durham as a special counsel, granting him additional protections and ensuring the investigation could continue regardless of the election outcome. This appointment was controversial, with critics arguing it was a politically motivated effort to delegitimize the prior Mueller investigation.

It was a complete flop. So trumples have already been down this road. Why go down it again? The Epstein files and the need to distract the gullible rubes like yourself.

 

[Correll]

Apparently you aren't.

The more you shit talk, the less relevant you become.


This is clearly the biggest scandal in American history, that I can think of.

It makes Watergate look like.... nothing.


And the Dems aren't missing a beat.


They are in a state of insurrection.

 

[Correll]

Remember John Durham? He was Billy the Bagman's hand pick hack assigned to find something Dotard could use in the 2020 campaign proving the Obama admin had tried to railroad trump. From AI............

In May 2019, Attorney General William Barr assigned John Durham, the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut, to review the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation. Later, in October 2020, Barr appointed Durham as a special counsel, granting him additional protections and ensuring the investigation could continue regardless of the election outcome. This appointment was controversial, with critics arguing it was a politically motivated effort to delegitimize the prior Mueller investigation.

It was a complete flop. So trumples have already been down this road. Why go down it again? The Epstein files and the need to distract the gullible rubes like yourself.

Becasue now we have the proof.

It is now known.


You can either denounce Obama and his actions, or support them.

If you support them, it means that you are joining him in his state of insurrection.


HIm and the rest of the dems.

 

[berg80]

So, you want to keep doing this current system because it has failed completely?


Interesting defense.


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I'll tell you what has failed. The specious justification to end AA policies because "discrimination doesn't exist any more." The same flawed reasoning lead to the VRA being gutted. That minoritires didn't need those kinds of voting rights protections any longer. What happened after the SC ruling? Repub controlled states immediately began campaigns to suppress the votes of minorities.

 

[berg80]

Becasue now we have the proof.

It is now known.

Horseshit. The "new" evidence has been recently declassified but it was available to Durham, Mueller, and the SIC at the time. All of those investigations refute Gabbard's politically motivated allegations made at trump's direction.

 

[Correll]

I'll tell you what has failed. The specious justification to end AA policies because "discrimination doesn't exist any more." The same flawed reasoning lead to the VRA being gutted. That minoritires didn't need those kinds of voting rights protections any longer. What happened after the SC ruling? Repub controlled states immediately began campaigns to suppress the votes of minorities.

I don't recall anyone making that argument as a reason for ending this shit.

" President Trump holds that DEI programs are in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, undermine national unity, and threaten the safety of the American people by “diminishing the importance of individuals merit, aptitude, hard work and determination when selecting people for jobs and services.”5 "


Yeah, nothing about "discrimination not existing anymore".


You want to...oh.


You're spouting shit talk to try to defend an indefensible...side. Your whole side is indefensible.


That's all.

 

[Correll]

Horseshit. The "new" evidence has been recently declassified but it was available to Durham, Mueller, and the SIC at the time. All of those investigations refute Gabbard's politically motivated allegations made at trump's direction.

I can't speak for their actions but it is clear from the evidence that the whole scandal was manufactured by the cia at Obama's orders.


The people who did that, should do hard time.

IF you dems support this, that indicates that you are still in that... mode of thinking and action.

Which is clear from the street violence and assassination attempts and just general RESIST.


This is not "LOYAL OPPOSITION", this is not "respecting the democratic transfer of power".

That is a state of insurrection.

 

[Lisa558]

Racial discrimination in hiring remains a persistent problem​

Despite new laws and changing attitudes, little has changed in 25 years

Racial discrimination in hiring remains a persistent problem

Decades after hiring discrimination was made illegal in many Western countries, experts predicted it would gradually disappear. But according to a major new meta-analysis from Northwestern University, discrimination in hiring has remained a persistent problem. In fact, with few exceptions, rates...

news.northwestern.edu

Northwestern?! They’re one of the worst libtard universities.

They’re bitching about “racism” while they allowed their students to engage in horrific antisemitism.

Typical hypocrites.

 

[berg80]

This is clearly the biggest scandal in American history, that I can think of.

You mean you've already forgotten trump's plot to steal the 2020 election? What a short memory you have.

John Durham, a special counsel appointed in Mr. Trump’s first term who hunted for a basis to fault the actions of law enforcement and intelligence officials early in that investigation, already scrutinized the drafting of the 2017 intelligence assessment and did not criticize anything about it in his final report.

And in a five-volume 2020 report, the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee — led by then-Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican who is now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser — reached its own conclusion that Russia’s motivations had included aspiring to improve Mr. Trump’s chances of winning.

Indeed, citing one aspect of the interference — the social media operation by a Russian entity known as the IRA — the Senate report suggested that the 2017 intelligence assessment’s judgment was, if anything, understated.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/25/us/trump-obama-russia.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20250726&instance_id=159281&nl=today%27s-headlines&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=202641&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

You've already lost the argument, you just don't know it.........yet.

 

[berg80]

Northwestern?! They’re one of the worst libtard universities.

I noticed you tried to disparage the source since you can't refute the findings of their study. A common tactic of misinformed trumples.

 

[jknowgood]

You mean you've already forgotten trump's plot to steal the 2020 election? What a short memory you have.

John Durham, a special counsel appointed in Mr. Trump’s first term who hunted for a basis to fault the actions of law enforcement and intelligence officials early in that investigation, already scrutinized the drafting of the 2017 intelligence assessment and did not criticize anything about it in his final report.

And in a five-volume 2020 report, the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee — led by then-Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican who is now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser — reached its own conclusion that Russia’s motivations had included aspiring to improve Mr. Trump’s chances of winning.

Indeed, citing one aspect of the interference — the social media operation by a Russian entity known as the IRA — the Senate report suggested that the 2017 intelligence assessment’s judgment was, if anything, understated.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/25/us/trump-obama-russia.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20250726&instance_id=159281&nl=today%27s-headlines&regi_id=65145149&segment_id=202641&user_id=fecdfdffdaaa11107b72f0f4f6e429cc

You've already lost the argument, you just don't know it.........yet.

Who was charged with insurrection again?

 

[berg80]

Who was charged with insurrection again?

When I assumed responsibility for the matters you assigned to me, I came to the work with no preconceived notion of what the just outcome of the investigations would be. I was not yet familiar with all of the relevant facts and had not yet researched the relevant law. Depending upon what the investigations revealed, I was equally comfortable closing the investigations or moving forward with prosecutions in one or both of the matters, having done both in high profile matters throughout my career.
To make prosecutorial determinations, my Office gathered relevant evidence and examined whether that evidence established violations of federal criminal law. In doing so I was guided by the Principles of Federal Prosecution, a series of considerations designed to promote the fair and evenhanded application of the law. As set forth in my Report, after conducting thorough investigations, I found that, with respect to both Mr. Trump's unprecedented efforts to unlawfully retain power after losing the 2020 election and his unlawful retention of classified documents after leaving office, the Principles compelled prosecution. Indeed, Mr. Trump's cases represented ones" in which the offense [was] the most flagrant, the public harm the greatest, and the proof the most certain." Jackson, "The Federal Prosecutor."
As directed by the Principles, I made my decision in these cases without regard to Mr. Trump's "political association, activities, or beliefs," or the possible personal or professional consequences of a prosecution for me or any member of my Office. Justice Manual § 9-27.260."[T]he likelihood of an acquittal due to unpopularity of some aspect of the prosecution or because of the overwhelming popularity of the defendant or his cause," or the converse, were not factors in my prosecutive decisions. Id. § 9-27.220 (Comment). My Office also adhered at all times to the Department's policy against interfering in elections. As a former Chief of the Department's Public Integrity Section, it was important to me, as it is to you, that we adhere to both the letter and spirit of this policy. I can assure you that neither l nor the prosecutors on my team would have tolerated or taken part in any action by our Office for partisan political purposes. Throughout my service as Special Counsel, seeking to influence the election one way or the other, or seeking to interfere in its outcome, played no role in our work. My Office had one north star: to follow the facts and law wherever they led. Nothing more and nothing less.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

You are a traitor to your country.........as is trump.

 

[Soupnazi630]

since its been proven that the whole Russia , Russia , Russia, native where the left tarnished the first Trump admin with charges of Russian collusion has been proven a fake political attack narrated by the left and Intel officials.. should the journalist that won the highest award for journalism that reported on and carried the fake story be forced to give back the awards they won ? or should they be allowed to keep the awards for story that was claimed to be a fact and a political bombshell that was eventually proven as lies and propaganda created by political operatives ? Trump is already suing for the Awards won by reporters from the NYT and Wash Post to be taken away ..

"Russia Hoax": Trump Says NYT, Washington Post Will Have To Return Pulitzers

US President Donald Trump on Wednesday declared victory against the "Russia Hoax" after a Florida court sided with him in a defamation lawsuit against the Pulitzer Prize Board relating to awards given for coverage of Russian interference US election.

www.ndtv.com

The Pulitzer prize is not and has NEVER been a mark of honesty or credibility.

It is meaningless

 

[jknowgood]

When I assumed responsibility for the matters you assigned to me, I came to the work with no preconceived notion of what the just outcome of the investigations would be. I was not yet familiar with all of the relevant facts and had not yet researched the relevant law. Depending upon what the investigations revealed, I was equally comfortable closing the investigations or moving forward with prosecutions in one or both of the matters, having done both in high profile matters throughout my career.
To make prosecutorial determinations, my Office gathered relevant evidence and examined whether that evidence established violations of federal criminal law. In doing so I was guided by the Principles of Federal Prosecution, a series of considerations designed to promote the fair and evenhanded application of the law. As set forth in my Report, after conducting thorough investigations, I found that, with respect to both Mr. Trump's unprecedented efforts to unlawfully retain power after losing the 2020 election and his unlawful retention of classified documents after leaving office, the Principles compelled prosecution. Indeed, Mr. Trump's cases represented ones" in which the offense [was] the most flagrant, the public harm the greatest, and the proof the most certain." Jackson, "The Federal Prosecutor."
As directed by the Principles, I made my decision in these cases without regard to Mr. Trump's "political association, activities, or beliefs," or the possible personal or professional consequences of a prosecution for me or any member of my Office. Justice Manual § 9-27.260."[T]he likelihood of an acquittal due to unpopularity of some aspect of the prosecution or because of the overwhelming popularity of the defendant or his cause," or the converse, were not factors in my prosecutive decisions. Id. § 9-27.220 (Comment). My Office also adhered at all times to the Department's policy against interfering in elections. As a former Chief of the Department's Public Integrity Section, it was important to me, as it is to you, that we adhere to both the letter and spirit of this policy. I can assure you that neither l nor the prosecutors on my team would have tolerated or taken part in any action by our Office for partisan political purposes. Throughout my service as Special Counsel, seeking to influence the election one way or the other, or seeking to interfere in its outcome, played no role in our work. My Office had one north star: to follow the facts and law wherever they led. Nothing more and nothing less.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

You are a traitor to your country.........as is trump.

I can tell you, none.

 

[berg80]

Becasue now we have the proof.

 

[berg80]

The Pulitzer prize is not and has NEVER been a mark of honesty or credibility.

It is meaningless

so says a trumple indoctrinated by trump's hatred of MSM.

 

[Soupnazi630]

so says a trumple indoctrinated by trump's hatred of MSM.

Wrong

Pay more attention. I seldom comment on trump at all

You worship that man more than I do

My statement was based on history. I.E Walter Duranty who was a massive liar covering up the crimes of Lenin and Stalin yet also got pulitzer prizes.

 

[berg80]

I can tell you, none.

Don't be so hung up on semantics. Just as the word "collusion" is not the measure of trump's duplicitous acts during the 2016 campaign so too the word "insurrection" is immaterial to trump's orchestration of an attempt to steal the 2020 election.