Zone1 should the Catholic Church have women priests as well?

[Zebra]

equal rights for all!

also for women to become priests

 

[Crepitus]

The catholic church should disband itself in shame.

 

[Zebra]

The catholic church should disband itself in shame.

you did not answer the question

 

[Crepitus]

you did not answer the question

I voted

 

[Zebra]

I voted

ok

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

equal rights for all!

also for women to become priests

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A Catholic priest is authorized by his ordination to act in persona Christi, or "in the person of Christ".

Christ was a man.

Here's a wonderful Catholic nun/Mother Superior, who is a spitfire on the subject. I wish I could live to see her canonized.




Worth listening to the whole thing to see an inspiring Catholic Warrior.


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[excalibur]

Never.

 

[Mack The Finger]

The Church needs a whole new make over !

Worth listening to the whole thing to see an inspiring Catholic Warrior.

That nun was the Church Lady's (my mom) FAV TV jawn.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

That nun was the Church Lady's (my mom) FAV TV jawn.

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She was great. She suffered no fools

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[Mack The Finger]

She was great. She suffered no fools

She put me to sleep !

There was this special order priest I really liked listening to.

That was until he said if you mastubate...you go to hell.

If true...that is going to be one crowded place.

BTW: It is mentioned in the bible but not the going to hell part.

 

[Ace Nova]

During my childhood I was given an assignment by my Catholic School teacher to interview a pastor or priest from another Christian sect. I interviewed a woman Lutheran pastor and she came forth as genuine, loving, understanding and I left the interview with the understanding that we’re not all that different after all.

From that day forward I have been a proponent of women joining the priesthood - even as Catholics. Although I’ve researched the reasons against it - none of the reason brought forth justify women not allowing to be priests, in my humble opinion.

 

[ding]

equal rights for all!

also for women to become priests

The One About WHY PRIESTS CAN ONLY EVER BE MEN | Barnhardt

 

[zaangalewa]

Counterquestion: If Hildegard von Bingen would give you from "her" eucharist bread and wine - what would be your problem?

By the way: Do you know that the rank of Hildegard von Bingen is higher than the rank of the Pope? She is a so called "teacher of the church" - what's the highest rank at all in the "hierarchy" of the church at all.

 

[BreezeWood]

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simply provides more proof the underlying dreadfulness of all three desert religions.

- bring the crucifiers to justice, let the sun shine again as meant to be.

 

[braalian]

Sure why not

 

[zaangalewa]

The One About WHY PRIESTS CAN ONLY EVER BE MEN | Barnhardt

An abbot has the rank of a bishop. So also an abess has the rank of a bishop. Such decisions are unbelievable old. Perhaps we lost our courage and left a right way only because such a way needs thousands of years of patience and a strenuous hike in difficult terrain?

We always defended our women. Even in the crusades we had not been criticized because we had been cruel and brutal warriors - everyone else also had been so - but we had been criticized that we gave our women too much freedom. I'm very sure for my own that the freedom and power of women is an essential way of monotheism at all - but only we Christians and Jews realized it consequently.

Lady Gyburc for example - a figure of Wolfram von Eschenbach and very famous because of her tolerance speech - spoke within the circle of the highest representatives of the political world in her time. And no one was astonished that a noble Lady criticized this leading nobels. They argued at the same level of authority.

I fear we lost a part of our very old way because of lots of absurdities of history. If you take a look at old pictures to an old song ("Minne") - then you can see for example a male noble teaching a female noble how to hunt with the falcon. This was the most noble activity at all. Only the best were able to hunt with the falcon. And the noble Lady was seen to be totally on the same level.

If you should think you are old and you think "long" then you are maybe only wrong. And please - don't start now this stupid English game to fight out who's right or wrong. Ask god what's right or wrong and for example why god accepted the authority of Mother Mary for his own education. Why did god go this way - and not another way? For me, equality before God is beyond doubt. I am sure that God loves each individual human being more than we are able to imagine.



I stand here at your manger,
O Jesus, my life;
I come, bring and give you
what you have given me.
Take it, it is my spirit and mind,
heart, soul, and courage, take it all
and let it please you.

Before I was born,
you were born to me
and made me your own,
before I knew you, chosen.
Before I was made by your hand,
you had already decided
how you wanted to be mine.

I lay in the deep night of death,
you were my sun,
the sun that brought me
light, life, joy, and delight.
O sun, which brought the precious light
of faith into me,
how beautiful are your rays.

I look at you with joy
and cannot get enough of you;
and because I can do nothing else,
I remain standing in worship.
O that my mind were an abyss
and my soul a vast sea,
that I might comprehend you.

You do not ask for the pleasures of the world
nor for the joys of the flesh;
you have come to us,
to suffer in our place,
seeking the glory of my soul
through misery and poverty;
I will not deny you that.

But one thing, I hope, you will not deny me,
my Savior:
that I may carry you forever
in, with, and upon me.
So let me be your little manger;
come, come and lay yourself with me,
you and all your joys.

 

[zaangalewa]

She put me to sleep !

There was this special order priest I really liked listening to.

That was until he said if you mastubate...you go to hell.

You problem is that never a Catholic said so - but you are convinced Catholics say so. So some people become no Catholics because they never would say so - and others become Catholics because they like to say so. You self-fulfill your own prejudices. And in this way you poison the church.

To make it more clear: Only god and no one else decides such things like "to go to hell". We are only able to say that some ways are more dangerous than others and some steps are irreversible at all. Murder for example is irreversible. Who's dead is dead and not comes back. But I'm sure also in this worse case everyone has still a chance as long as alive on the own and perhaps even longer. But this also no one knows.

If true...that is going to be one crowded place.

BTW: It is mentioned in the bible

¿Really?

but not the going to hell part.

Are you sure?



By the way: Is written in the bible that it is good to love all and every life? And if this is written there - or not written there (what I doubt) - what would change this? Would it suddenly be bad to love all and every life?

 

[zaangalewa]

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A Catholic priest is authorized by his ordination to act in persona Christi, or "in the person of Christ".

Christ was a man.

Here's a wonderful Catholic nun/Mother Superior, who is a spitfire on the subject. I wish I could live to see her canonized.




Worth listening to the whole thing to see an inspiring Catholic Warrior.

What an absurd speech. Is this Lady sure she is a Catholic? She speaks to young people in 1993? Whatever.

My comment: Do not leave us alone - you are welcome. Always. Even if you know nothing or less than nothing about the Catholic faith. Ask - and you will get answers. Not one answer but many answers - from every Catholic another one. Sometimes perhaps from time to time also a wrong answer. But in all this answers you will find a common spirit. Try to find the spirit. Again: You are welcome.

 

[forkintheroad7]

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A Catholic priest is authorized by his ordination to act in persona Christi, or "in the person of Christ".

Christ was a man.

Here's a wonderful Catholic nun/Mother Superior, who is a spitfire on the subject. I wish I could live to see her canonized.




Worth listening to the whole thing to see an inspiring Catholic Warrior.


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Sorry, but the truth is Mother Angelica was a heretic. She believed that people in all religions will be saved -- while the true Catholic Church has always taught extra ecclessiam nulla salus (Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation)..

If she knew she was a heretic and refused to accept the true Catholic doctrine on this (and her other heresies), well... she may be in Hell (or maybe 100 years in Purgatory, which is basically Hell that ends). God knows....

People need to find out if they are in heresy because heresy (false beliefs) can lead you to Hell - and remember Jesus said VERY few make it to Heaven. When one saint ( I believe it was St Bernard ) died, he appeared to someone and told that person that when he died something like 32,000 others died and only 3 made it, 2 by way of Purgatory.

 

[ding]

Sorry, but the truth is Mother Angelica was a heretic. She believed that people in all religions will be saved and etc...

If she knew she was a heretic and refused to accept the true Catholic doctrines on this, well... she may be in Hell.

People need to find out if they are in heresy because heresy can lead you to Hell and remember Jesus said VERY few make it to Heaven. When St Bernard died, he appeared to someone and told that person that when he died something like 100,000 others died and only 3 made it, 2 by way of Purgatory.

With numbers like those I don’t stand a chance.