Zone1 Should the Catholic Church allow married priests?

[buttercup]

Why did god make eve? To be mans helper.

The Hebrew word for "helper" (ezer) used in Genesis 2:18 is used in other places in the Bible to describe God Himself as our helper. (Psalm 33:20, Psalm 124:8, etc.) So it's about so much more than what you seem to be implying.

Instead of focusing on that one verse, if you look at the bigger picture, it's clear that God created woman to be a complementary life partner to man... And yes, to be a "help", but in the best sense of the word.... not in a menial or inferior way.

 

[BreezeWood]

it's clear that God created woman to be a complementary life partner to man...

how is it desert dwellers need or even come up with ideas of heavenly schemes for sexual role modeling pertaining to their madeup religions ... from draconian to fairyland.

 

[Woodznutz]

Indeed it was! Look up the council of elvira.

The celibate priesthood goes back farther than that, to ancient pagan religions where the principal figure was a woman. She alone was to be the object of her priests' affections.

 

[Woodznutz]

The Hebrew word for "helper" (ezer) used in Genesis 2:18 is used in other places in the Bible to describe God Himself as our helper. (Psalm 33:20, Psalm 124:8, etc.) So it's about so much more than what you seem to be implying.

Instead of focusing on that one verse, if you look at the bigger picture, it's clear that God created woman to be a complementary life partner to man... And yes, to be a "help", but in the best sense of the word.... not in a menial or inferior way.

"A man isn't complete until he's married. Then he's finished."

-Victor Borge

 

[Lisa558]

Sure the should be allowed to marry. Why shouldn’t they be as miserable as everyone else?

 

[Woodznutz]

Are you speaking from experience?

To ensure absolute celibacy priests should be castrated, then they are truly "eunuchs for the work's sake" and would leave the altar boys alone.

 

[Woodznutz]

Sure the should be allowed to marry. Why shouldn’t they be as miserable as everyone else?

True. My wife made my life a living hell. She never knew how happy I was when she filed for divorce. Apparently, she thought I wasn't miserable enough, so she divorced me, and found someone else to make miserable (he told me all about it after she had divorced him as well).

 

[Crepitus]

Jesus never said otherwise.
And until about the year 1100 married priests were the norm.

Hell yes. It's the best way to weed out the pedos.

 

[Meriweather]

Nor do I see why women can’t be Catholic priests.

Before tribe of Levites were given the task/responsibility for the priesthood, the first born male in all twelve tribes were dedicated as priests. The fathers, all throughout Biblical times, taught their children (more intensely with their sons) the Law and the Torah. Mothers were also involved in teaching morals. Males took their responsibilities of fathering children seriously and were involved in their sons lives. Females, of course, did the same, and were attentive mothers.

The stumbling block of women taking over men's roles (by choice or necessity) is that many men seem quite happy to cede their roles to women. If the women want to do it, let them take over. This leads to a matriarchal society with male drones. It leads to single parenting--most often the women. We women are workhorses--and proud of it. But...is this what is best for men, to become sloths and leave it all to the women? It is not what is best for families, and it not what is best for Church, and it's not what is best for society.

Note the people around Jesus. There were plenty of women--and he didn't have to call a single one. It was the men he had to call. They are just as vital to the Church as women. I don't see any good reason to let them off the hook. We women will always be there. If every man walked out, we would remain. I've seen that with altar servers once girls were allowed to serve along with boys. In the churches I attend, the majority of altar servers (and I mean the greater majority) are girls. Would Catholics want the same thing to happen with the priesthood. I wouldn't.

 

[pinqy]

Jesus never said otherwise.
And until about the year 1100 married priests were the norm.

Only the Latin Church forbids the ordination of married men; and even then there are exceptions. All 23 Eastern Catholic Churches allow married men to become priests (but not bishops). And even the Latin Church allows married men who were ordained in Eastern Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and some Protestant Churches (Anglican, Episcopalian, and some Methodist and Lutheran churches) to become priests in the Latin Church, though former Protestants require a Papal dispensation.

 

[ding]

To ensure absolute celibacy priests should be castrated, then they are truly "eunuchs for the work's sake" and would leave the altar boys alone.

I’m not a big believer in defacing the human body.

 

[BS Filter]

First of all, there is no such thing as a "priest" in the New Testament church, since every believer is a priest. We no longer need a man to be our intercessor, since all believers have access to the holy of holies. That's what the New Testament says.

 

[Meriweather]

First of all, there is no such thing as a "priest" in the New Testament church, since every believer is a priest. We no longer need a man to be our intercessor, since all believers have access to the holy of holies. That's what the New Testament says.

Priests are also teachers. What say you...do we need teachers, or does each person rely on teaching him/herself?

 

[Zebra]

Priests are also teachers. What say you...do we need teachers, or does each person rely on teaching him/herself?

once upon a time female teachers were not allowed to marry.
why?

just as senseless as the celibacy of priests

 

[BS Filter]

Priests are also teachers. What say you...do we need teachers, or does each person rely on teaching him/herself?

Every believer is a priest, according to the New Testament.

 

[kyzr]

Every believer is a priest, according to the New Testament.

Where does it say that?

 

[rightwinger]

Catholics think of sex as “yucky”

How could a parish respect a priest who engages in sex?

 

[kyzr]

Catholics think of sex as “yucky”

You're probably picturing sex with Buttplug. Picture sex with a beautiful woman instead, the definition of beautiful.

How could a parish respect a priest who engages in sex?

Sex is how straight people reproduce, duh.

 

[rightwinger]

Sex is how straight people reproduce, duh.

Then why is the Catholic Church the only major religion that does not allow its priests or nuns to reproduce?

It is how most religions maintain their clergy.
My father was a minister, my grandfather was a minister…

 

[BS Filter]

Where does it say that?

First Peter 2:5-9.