Should it be a crime to express racist beliefs?

[IM2]

All of America doesn't have white fragility. Expressing racist beliefs isn't the problem; acting on racist beliefs is. The left hasn't been the problem, and intolerance to racism shouldn't be considered a disadvantage.

 

[Monoculturalist]

All of America doesn't have white fragility. Expressing racist beliefs isn't the problem; acting on racist beliefs is. The left hasn't been the problem, and intolerance to racism shouldn't be considered a disadvantage.

The left is the problem for one simple reason. A lot of the left believes you can't be racist against white people. As long as they have that delusion, then racism will persist, because it directly contributes to racial tension.

Anti-racism, for example, is just an ideology that is anti-white. Its creators just picked that name to excuse their own racism.

 

[IM2]

The left is the problem for one simple reason. A lot of the left believes you can't be racist against white people. As long as they have that delusion, then racism will persist, because it directly contributes to racial tension.

Anti-racism, for example, is just an ideology that is anti-white. Its creators just picked that name to excuse their own racism.

Whites like you are the problem. Forever playing the victim and recreating the definition of racism whenever a non-white person points out the overt racist opinions and policies of the right. Anti racism is not anti white. Here we see an example of the white victim mentality of the American right. Millions of whites aren't racist who oppose racism, so they can't be anti-themselves, and that claim in itself implies that some whites feel that whites have the right to be racists and to use that racism to inhibit the liberty of non-whites.

The right has to man/woman up and accept being held accountable for the racism you continue to practice. And you must stop believing that the response non whites have to your racism is the same as your racism. That's a disingenuous tactic, and that is what keeps tension going.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

My thoughts are that racism has been pretty much soundly rejected by society, except for an uneducated fringe. Slavery has been abolished, and both the Republican and Democratic Party have people of various colors serving under them. And we all know that you can't be a racist and be a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and preached a message of love for all of humanity.

So, if we just made it a crime to express racist beliefs, we might be able to render the last vestiges of racism in our society obsolete. Seems like a win-win to me, and no one would miss the racists.

Here are some examples of what we could make illegal:

*Expressing hatred or violence toward people based on their race or skin color

*Expressing conspiracy theories about people of a certain racial group (e.x. Jews controlling the media)

*Expressing the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another.

My estimation of your age diminishes with every post you make.

 

[Monoculturalist]

Whites like you are the problem. Forever playing the victim and recreating the definition of racism whenever a non-white person points out the overt racist opinions and policies of the right. Anti racism is not anti white. Here we see an example of the white victim mentality of the American right. Millions of whites aren't racist who oppose racism, so they can't be anti-themselves, and that claim in itself implies that some whites feel that whites have the right to be racists and to use that racism to inhibit the liberty of non-whites.

The right has to man/woman up and accept being held accountable for the racism you continue to practice. And you must stop believing that the response non whites have to your racism is the same as your racism. That's a disingenuous tactic, and that is what keeps tension going.

It's not playing the victim to expect all people to be held to the same standards.

I didn't recreate anything. The original definition of racism was discrimination against a person because of their skin color. There was no "power + privilege" nonsense equation applied like so many on the left now use.

Besides, they don't consistently apply this logic anyway. Even if we used that silly equation, that would mean that a white person in a trailer park could still be discriminated against by a rich black guy, but they deny that.

Anti-racism literally advocates for discrimination against whites to supposedly make up for past discrimination against non-whites. That is overtly anti-white.

Opposing racism in a genuine sense would involve rejecting anti-racism. Now, if someone could remake that ideology into a different mold from the one that Ibram X. Kendi made, it might actually become legitimate.

Another thing that applies here is that racial grievance groups have to justify their existence in order to continue getting funding, which is why the NAACP and ADL distort things to create racial and ethnic tension.

 

[Mac1958]

Or, it's a clear symptom of a society progressing into the future, much to the dismay of racists, bigots, Uber religious nutsacks, oligarchs, etc.

Well, those people vote. And now they're at war, they're organized and focused, and they're gaining control across the board. And it sure looks like they're going to do whatever it takes to keep it.

I guess we'll see.

 

[dblack]

Well, those people vote. And now they're at war, they're organized and focused, and they're gaining control across the board. And it sure looks like they're going to do whatever it takes to keep it.

I guess we'll see.

That's the problem with using government to dictate societal norms.

 

[TemplarKormac]

My thoughts are that racism has been pretty much soundly rejected by society, except for an uneducated fringe. Slavery has been abolished, and both the Republican and Democratic Party have people of various colors serving under them. And we all know that you can't be a racist and be a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and preached a message of love for all of humanity.

So, if we just made it a crime to express racist beliefs, we might be able to render the last vestiges of racism in our society obsolete. Seems like a win-win to me, and no one would miss the racists.

Here are some examples of what we could make illegal:

*Expressing hatred or violence toward people based on their race or skin color

*Expressing conspiracy theories about people of a certain racial group (e.x. Jews controlling the media)

*Expressing the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another.

No. It should be mocked, ridiculed, and staunchly discouraged, but never criminalized. Expression of violence based on race is already a crime.

The last two are free speech; the first one is already a crime.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Racism is incompatible with a free society.


I gave examples, such as:

Believing that one race is superior or inferior to another

Believing in conspiracy theories that target a certain race (e.x. believing that "the Jews" control the media).

Basically, we can treat racists the same way that Jews were treated in Nazi Germany, or that black people were treated in the era of Jim Crow. I think that society will always tend to dehumanize one group or another, so if we're going to, we might as well start dehumanizing racists, and maybe dehumanization would actually do some good for a change.

Whites as a group are being dehumanized and have been de humanized for the past couple decades.

 

[JGalt]

Racism is incompatible with a free society.


I gave examples, such as:

Believing that one race is superior or inferior to another

Believing in conspiracy theories that target a certain race (e.x. believing that "the Jews" control the media).

Basically, we can treat racists the same way that Jews were treated in Nazi Germany, or that black people were treated in the era of Jim Crow. I think that society will always tend to dehumanize one group or another, so if we're going to, we might as well start dehumanizing racists, and maybe dehumanization would actually do some good for a change.

You're incompatible with a free society. Take your bullshit back to Reddit, Democratic Underground, or whatever rock you slithered out from underneath.

 

[Mac1958]

That's the problem with using government to dictate societal norms.

Yeah, you don't want a bunch of billionaires and paid-off politicians pretending to care about morality.

And it's worse when they preach morality, ignore it for themselves, and get supported for it by their base.

 

[Correll]

My thoughts are that racism has been pretty much soundly rejected by society, except for an uneducated fringe. Slavery has been abolished, and both the Republican and Democratic Party have people of various colors serving under them. And we all know that you can't be a racist and be a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and preached a message of love for all of humanity.

So, if we just made it a crime to express racist beliefs, we might be able to render the last vestiges of racism in our society obsolete. Seems like a win-win to me, and no one would miss the racists.

Here are some examples of what we could make illegal:

*Expressing hatred or violence toward people based on their race or skin color

*Expressing conspiracy theories about people of a certain racial group (e.x. Jews controlling the media)

*Expressing the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another.

Tell me you're a marxist, without telling me you're a marxist.

 

[Blaster]

The fact is that most blacks hate white people.

 

[ColonelAngus]

So when a person of color talks about White Supremacy, they could face legal consequences?

Sounds dumb.

 

[Hafar1014]

My thoughts are that racism has been pretty much soundly rejected by society, except for an uneducated fringe. Slavery has been abolished, and both the Republican and Democratic Party have people of various colors serving under them. And we all know that you can't be a racist and be a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and preached a message of love for all of humanity.

So, if we just made it a crime to express racist beliefs, we might be able to render the last vestiges of racism in our society obsolete. Seems like a win-win to me, and no one would miss the racists.

Here are some examples of what we could make illegal:

*Expressing hatred or violence toward people based on their race or skin color

*Expressing conspiracy theories about people of a certain racial group (e.x. Jews controlling the media)

*Expressing the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another.

That violates the first amendment. All of those are opinions and protected speech. You have no right not to be offended.

 

[Blaster]

The belief that only white people are racist is nonsense.

 

[Correll]

That violates the first amendment. All of those are opinions and protected speech. You have no right not to be offended.

Lefties know that. They don't care.

This isnt't about anything but power. They want, they NEED to the power to control the debate.

They know that their ideas have ALL been debunked, so the only way they can "win" a debate, is if they silence their enemies.

 

[Correll]

Well, those people vote. And now they're at war, they're organized and focused, and they're gaining control across the board. And it sure looks like they're going to do whatever it takes to keep it.

I guess we'll see.

Hopefully you will see. It will be nice, The GREAT part of MAGA, is not just talk.


It will be GREAT.

 

[dblack]

Yeah, you don't want a bunch of billionaires and paid-off politicians pretending to care about morality.

And it's worse when they preach morality, ignore it for themselves, and get supported for it by their base.

I don't want government telling people how to live. Protect our rights. Otherwise, stay out our business. Don't tell us what to think, what to say and not say, how to procreate, how to do do health care, etc, etc etc ...

MYOB

 

[BrokeLoser]

My thoughts are that racism has been pretty much soundly rejected by society, except for an uneducated fringe. Slavery has been abolished, and both the Republican and Democratic Party have people of various colors serving under them. And we all know that you can't be a racist and be a Christian. Jesus was a Jew and preached a message of love for all of humanity.

So, if we just made it a crime to express racist beliefs, we might be able to render the last vestiges of racism in our society obsolete. Seems like a win-win to me, and no one would miss the racists.

Here are some examples of what we could make illegal:

*Expressing hatred or violence toward people based on their race or skin color

*Expressing conspiracy theories about people of a certain racial group (e.x. Jews controlling the media)

*Expressing the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another.

Racism is born from stereotypes and stereotypes are born from behavioral traits…Racism will exist until the behavior changes.

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