Should Israel withdraw to the Separation Barrier?

[Victory67]

More like securing their now-expanded base in anticipation of the next outward push towards the Jordanian border, to begin shortly, I expect, where they will build new walls along the way, creeping towards the Jordanian borders a few miles at a time, a decade at a time... slow-and-steady wins the race.

An Israeli push towards the Jordanian border would lead to many dead Jews.

You don't want that to happen, do you?

 

[Kondor3]

More like securing their now-expanded base in anticipation of the next outward push towards the Jordanian border, to begin shortly, I expect, where they will build new walls along the way, creeping towards the Jordanian borders a few miles at a time, a decade at a time... slow-and-steady wins the race.

An Israeli push towards the Jordanian border would lead to many dead Jews.

You don't want that to happen, do you?

Who is going to create these dead Jews?

And what are they going to use as weapons to create them?

 

[Indeependent]

More like securing their now-expanded base in anticipation of the next outward push towards the Jordanian border, to begin shortly, I expect, where they will build new walls along the way, creeping towards the Jordanian borders a few miles at a time, a decade at a time... slow-and-steady wins the race.

An Israeli push towards the Jordanian border would lead to many dead Jews.

You don't want that to happen, do you?

Let's do a reality check...
Jordan has recently asked Israel to secure the WBJs because the Jordanian "military" (you know, the two guys who guard Queen Nor) can't handle the situation.

Dead Jews...I don't think so.

 

[Victory67]

Who is going to create these dead Jews?

And what are they going to use as weapons to create them?

Iran, Jordan, Russia.

They will not allow Israel to push to the Jordan border.

It will lead to lots of dead Jews so I advise them to not take such an action.

But I know you don't believe they will do such a thing, you're just trolling.

Israel will either withdraw to the Seperation Barrier unilaterally or as part of a peace deal.

But its going to happen.

 

[Victory67]

Let's do a reality check...
Jordan has recently asked Israel to secure the WBJs because the Jordanian "military" (you know, the two guys who guard Queen Nor) can't handle the situation.

Dead Jews...I don't think so.

Yes, Jordan wants Israel to keep some troops in the Jordan Valley, not take over all of the West Bank and push millions of Arabs across the border, as Kondor claims.

 

[Indeependent]

Who is going to create these dead Jews?

And what are they going to use as weapons to create them?

Iran, Jordan, Russia.

They will not allow Israel to push to the Jordan border.

It will lead to lots of dead Jews so I advise them to not take such an action.

But I know you don't believe they will do such a thing, you're just trolling.

Israel will either withdraw to the Seperation Barrier unilaterally or as part of a peace deal.

But its going to happen.

I can't believe I'm getting this comic relief without paying for it.
Look, dipwad, if Iran or Jordan could do anything, they would.
Russia step in when millions of Christian anxious for the Rapture are on Israel's side...ain't gonna happen.

 

[Indeependent]

Let's do a reality check...
Jordan has recently asked Israel to secure the WBJs because the Jordanian "military" (you know, the two guys who guard Queen Nor) can't handle the situation.

Dead Jews...I don't think so.

Yes, Jordan wants Israel to keep some troops in the Jordan Valley, not take over all of the West Bank and push millions of Arabs across the border, as Kondor claims.

Jordan doesn't want them because they're slime.
Israel doesn't want them because they're Jordanian slime.

 

[Phoenall]

Who is going to create these dead Jews?

And what are they going to use as weapons to create them?

Iran, Jordan, Russia.

They will not allow Israel to push to the Jordan border.

It will lead to lots of dead Jews so I advise them to not take such an action.

But I know you don't believe they will do such a thing, you're just trolling.

Israel will either withdraw to the Seperation Barrier unilaterally or as part of a peace deal.

But its going to happen.

Guess what happens to Iran if it even tries to attack Israel openly, it is decimated and the ayatollahs will be running around like headless chickens. Jordan has already welcomed Israel to its borders to stop the influx of Palestinian terrorists getting into Jordan. Russia will not make any move on Israel as it would face the might of the rest of the West and china. Your fantasy world is all black and white, and the reality is all those shades of grey. Israel can sit back and do nothing and it will still win as they have the law on their side

 

[Kondor3]

Who is going to create these dead Jews?

And what are they going to use as weapons to create them?

Iran, Jordan, Russia.

They will not allow Israel to push to the Jordan border...

Well, now that you've told us the "who", tell us the "how".

What is Jordan going to do, to stop an Israeli drive to the Jordanian border?

What is Iran going to do, to stop an Israeli drive to the Jordanian border?

What is Russia going to do, to stop an Israeli drive to the Jordanian border?

And what do you think that the United States and NATO are going to be doing, while Jordan, Iran and Russia are doing this?

Please - enlighten us.

 

[Kondor3]

Let's do a reality check...
Jordan has recently asked Israel to secure the WBJs because the Jordanian "military" (you know, the two guys who guard Queen Nor) can't handle the situation.

Dead Jews...I don't think so.

Yes, Jordan wants Israel to keep some troops in the Jordan Valley, not take over all of the West Bank and push millions of Arabs across the border, as Kondor claims.

I never claimed that Jordan wanted Israel to push millions of Arabs over the border.

I've speculated that Israel is fast approaching a point where it may push millions of Arabs across the border whether Jordan wants it or not.

Big difference.

 

[Victory67]

I never claimed that Jordan wanted Israel to push millions of Arabs over the border.

I've speculated that Israel is fast approaching a point where it may push millions of Arabs across the border whether Jordan wants it or not.

Big difference.

Such an act would lead to millions of dead Jews. Why do you want millions of Jews to die?

The best solution is to simply pull back to the Seperation Barrier, which Israel is likely to do with or without a peace treaty.

 

[Kondor3]

I never claimed that Jordan wanted Israel to push millions of Arabs over the border.

I've speculated that Israel is fast approaching a point where it may push millions of Arabs across the border whether Jordan wants it or not.

Big difference.

Such an act would lead to millions of dead Jews. Why do you want millions of Jews to die?...

So you keep telling us...

You've even gone so far as to tell us who is going to kill those millions of Jews...

The Jordanians, and...

The Iranians, and...

The Russians...

You're real big on the WHAT and WHO, but not so hot on the HOW...

You're also not so hot on what the IDF will have to say about all that...

You're also not so hot on what the US and NATO will be doing while the Jordanians, the Iranians and the Russians are killing all those millions of Jews...

We're all sitting on the edge of our chairs...

Waiting for your to describe for us HOW the Jordanians, the Iranians and the Russians will kill all those millions of Jews...

Waiting for you to describe for us what the US and NATO will be doing while all that is going on...

Feel free...

Have at it...

Amaze us with your insight into such matters...

 

[Coyote]

Let's do a reality check...
Jordan has recently asked Israel to secure the WBJs because the Jordanian "military" (you know, the two guys who guard Queen Nor) can't handle the situation.

Dead Jews...I don't think so.

Yes, Jordan wants Israel to keep some troops in the Jordan Valley, not take over all of the West Bank and push millions of Arabs across the border, as Kondor claims.

I never claimed that Jordan wanted Israel to push millions of Arabs over the border.

I've speculated that Israel is fast approaching a point where it may push millions of Arabs across the border whether Jordan wants it or not.

Big difference.

Should that happen, it would be humanitarian crisis on a large scale, and the international fall out for Israel would be high - it would certainly give support to claims of ethnic cleansing.

 

[Indeependent]

Yes, Jordan wants Israel to keep some troops in the Jordan Valley, not take over all of the West Bank and push millions of Arabs across the border, as Kondor claims.

I never claimed that Jordan wanted Israel to push millions of Arabs over the border.

I've speculated that Israel is fast approaching a point where it may push millions of Arabs across the border whether Jordan wants it or not.

Big difference.

Should that happen, it would be humanitarian crisis on a large scale, and the international fall out for Israel would be high - it would certainly give support to claims of ethnic cleansing.

Yep; for about three days before Syria takes back the headlines.

 

[Victory67]

Yep; for about three days before Syria takes back the headlines.

I pray Israel never tries this as it would lead to a lot of dead Jews in Israel and Europe.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Yep; for about three days before Syria takes back the headlines.

I pray Israel never tries this as it would lead to a lot of dead Jews in Israel and Europe.

Yes, Europe is very anti-Semitic.

 

[Victory67]

Yep; for about three days before Syria takes back the headlines.

I pray Israel never tries this as it would lead to a lot of dead Jews in Israel and Europe.

Yes, Europe is very anti-Semitic.

Well, for every Arab killed by the Israelis in an attempt to commit ethnic cleansing, a Jew might die in Europe. That's not anti-Semitism, but justice.

Israel should instead just pull back to their very expensive barrier and call it a day.

 

[Sally]

I pray Israel never tries this as it would lead to a lot of dead Jews in Israel and Europe.

Yes, Europe is very anti-Semitic.

Well, for every Arab killed by the Israelis in an attempt to commit ethnic cleansing, a Jew might die in Europe. That's not anti-Semitism, but justice.

Israel should instead just pull back to their very expensive barrier and call it a day.

Does this also mean that for each Christian murdered in Muslim countries, the Christians in other parts of the world should start playing tit for tat. After all, when you get down to it there have been more Christians killed in Muslim countries than the tiny amount of so-called Palestinians comparatively killed by Israelis. Gee, we can even have the Sunnis and Shiites playing tit for tat with each other when it comes to killing. No doubt those born in Gaza like Herr Weil Ich Weiss will think differently about this. In his mind, only the Israelis should be killed no matter how many innocent people have died at the hands of his brethren.

 

[aris2chat]

I pray Israel never tries this as it would lead to a lot of dead Jews in Israel and Europe.

Yes, Europe is very anti-Semitic.

Well, for every Arab killed by the Israelis in an attempt to commit ethnic cleansing, a Jew might die in Europe. That's not anti-Semitism, but justice.

Israel should instead just pull back to their very expensive barrier and call it a day.

Dangerous threat.
Jews in Europe, not Israelis, should not be targeted for the actions in Israel.
That would be antisemitism.

 

[GibsonSG]

If peace talks with Palestine fail, should Israel just withdraw to the Separation Barrier while maintaining a military presence along the Jordanian border in the Jordan Valley?

If Israel does this they can claim before any criminal or other international court Palestine might take them before, that they have withdrawn from all Occupied Territories up to a point where security demands an Israeli presence until a final peace treaty is reached ..

(which does actually comply with UN resolution 242 which requires Israel to withdraw from "lands" Occupied since 1967 and for all states to recognize Israel within secure and defensable borders).

And many throughout the world would accept that reasoning, as only 8.5% of the West Bank would remain under Israel control, meaning 91.5% of Arab Palestine (the West Bank) and all of Gaza would be free to become an independent State of Palestine, and that's a pretty damn good deal in the absence of a formal peace treaty.

No, they need to withdraw from "ALL" occupied territories. Israel has no right to have a "security presence", on someone else's land. Israel's only option, is to get the **** off that land and stop violating international law.

All this security concern crap is a bunch of BS!

So asshole, when are you giving your land back to the indians?