Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

[Delldude]

Then let the murders begin. What would the god do?

Dems are taking applications for martyrs. Feel like helping out?

 

[westwall]

Cartels don’t care if you shoot a protester—they’d love that. Chaos helps their business. We protect this country by being better than the enemy, not by copying their playbook. If someone’s breaking the law, arrest them. But if we let rage replace discipline, we’re doing the cartels’ job for them.

I don't care if a cartel minion gets shot. **** 'em. They chose who they owe fealty to. And it isn't the USA. Now that the cartels are declared terrorists, hunt them all down and kill them.

 

[westwall]

Cartels don’t care if you shoot a protester—they’d love that. Chaos helps their business. We protect this country by being better than the enemy, not by copying their playbook. If someone’s breaking the law, arrest them. But if we let rage replace discipline, we’re doing the cartels’ job for them.

I don't are if a cartel minion gets shot. **** 'em. They chose who they owe fealty to. And it isn't the USA. Now that the cartels are declared terrorists, hunt them all down and

Pegging rocks from a distance is one thing, coming up to the vehicle and hurling a fist sized rock directly at the driver, albeit through the glass, is attempted murder: great bodily harm at a minimum.

A rock at the end of its arc is lethal. Shoot the thrower before it is thrown.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't are if a cartel minion gets shot. **** 'em. They chose who they owe fealty to. And it isn't the USA. Now that the cartels are declared terrorists, hunt them all down and

A rock at the end of its arc is lethal. Shoot the thrower before it is thrown.

Rocks thrown from a distance are small and while they can hurt you it's unlikely they will kill you.

 

[westwall]

Rocks thrown from a distance are small and while they can hurt you it's unlikely they will kill you.

Tell that to any person hit with one during the Roman wars.

 

[Seth]

1. The border looks to be solved, zero entries last month, so Trump wants to spend $46b to build more wall

How the ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ will allow President Trump to finally finish the border wall

The president’s tax and funding bill has $46 billion to complete an estimated 700 miles of border wall, plus hundreds of miles more in fences and river barriers, according to the White House.

nypost.com

2. You can point to lethal force in crowds, I can point to the recent ambush in TX where an ICE agent was shot in the neck while 10 "rioters" were doing distractions. I like "overwatch" to snuff any rioters with guns, or rocks, or fireworks.

3. Why are the cartels still in existence? We need B-2s ending their existence.

1. If border entries really are at zero, then panic-mode tactics like crowd gunfire make even less sense. That’s not strength—that’s fear with a trigger finger.

2. Overwatch has a role. So does judgment. Every crowd isn’t a battlefield, and not every rock is a rifle. The mission is law enforcement, not combat ops.

3. Bombing the cartels sounds tough—until you realize their "assets" are schools, homes, and clinics packed with civilians. That’s by design. They want us to lash out and take the blame. And picking a war with one of our biggest trade partners? That’s not strategy. That’s sabotage.

 

[Oddball]

I dont want them shot like the mad dogs they are unless they are attempting to kill ICE agents

Otherwise round them all up and charge them with insurection

Whether they get bail depends on how violent they were when arrested

Throwing rocks and commercial grade fireworks is attempting to maim and kill.

Choot 'em.

 

[Oddball]

Protestors should be neutralized with non-lethal shots and arrested. Only in the most dire, and life threatening circumstances should ICE use lethal force.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Shoot one in the leg and the rest will run away.

Shoot a couple in the head and the rest will stay home.

 

[Donald H]

Dems are taking applications for martyrs. Feel like helping out?

It's coming!
Fascism inevitably leads to issues that are solvable only by political murders

 

[justoffal]

I was outraged that ICE did not shoot protesters throwing rocks at their vehicles at close range as seen in the video.
Obviously a case of "self-defense".
I'm also outraged that the vehicles that taxpayers paid for are being severely damaged.

Demonstrators throw projectiles at cars following ICE raids on Southern California farm

A confrontation erupted Thursday between protesters and federal officials carrying out a raid on a Southern California farm.

apnews.com

Trump wants them arrested. Fine. But throwing rocks or shooting fireworks should not be tolerated. We know that many protesters are armed and love to ambush ICE agents.

There are several excellent methods of dealing with these people especially if you start sending out turret mounted vehicles into the field. Bean bag cannons can be very effective and even lethal. Sonic pulse weapons will have them on their knees with a single blast never hearing exactly the same way ever again. In my opinion the size of the rocks that were being thrown constitute lethal force and should be answered with lethal force. Tear gas can be dispensed in more ways than simple grenade sized release units....
There is also an industrial sized tear gas cannon but I wouldn't recommend it because it also stifles the visibility of the people using it.

 

[Seth]

I don't are if a cartel minion gets shot. **** 'em. They chose who they owe fealty to. And it isn't the USA. Now that the cartels are declared terrorists, hunt them all down and

A rock at the end of its arc is lethal. Shoot the thrower before it is thrown.

Only a coward sees a rock and reaches for a gun like it’s permission to start a massacre.

 

[Mac-7]

Throwing rocks and commercial grade fireworks is attempting to maim and kill.

Choot 'em.

Its a serious offense and the people doing it should be crushed legally

They think is is only a game but the DOJ can make them suffer for years without killing them

 

[kyzr]

1. If border entries really are at zero, then panic-mode tactics like crowd gunfire make even less sense. That’s not strength—that’s fear with a trigger finger.

There is no connection between "border encounters" and "crowd violence".
Self-defense or defeating ambushes always makes sense. Its not fear, its self-defense and law and order, no pussyfooting around

2. Overwatch has a role. So does judgment. Every crowd isn’t a battlefield, and not every rock is a rifle. The mission is law enforcement, not combat ops.

True, but let overwatch make that call protecting law enforcement from deadly attacks.

3. Bombing the cartels sounds tough—until you realize their "assets" are schools, homes, and clinics packed with civilians. That’s by design. They want us to lash out and take the blame. And picking a war with one of our biggest trade partners? That’s not strategy. That’s sabotage.

Losing 100,000 Americans a year to the cartels justifies serious offensive actions. Mexico can't go to war with the US and they know it.

Just noticed you are a newbie, welcome aboard.

 

[Seth]

There is no connection between "border encounters" and "crowd violence".
Self-defense or defeating ambushes always makes sense. Its not fear, its self-defense and law and order, no pussyfooting around

True, but let overwatch make that call protecting law enforcement from deadly attacks.

Losing 100,000 Americans a year to the cartels justifies serious offensive actions. Mexico can't go to war with the US and they know it.

Just noticed you are a newbie, welcome aboard.

The cost is real, no question. That’s why we can’t afford a sloppy response. The cartels want us to take the bait—missile strikes on homes and clinics hand them a propaganda win and tie our hands internationally. We don’t win this by swinging wild. We win it by being smarter, steadier, and harder to provoke. That’s why joint operations like Project Python—which coordinated dozens of U.S. and Mexican agencies to arrest over 600 cartel members without turning border towns into warzones—actually move the needle. It’s not flashy, but it works.

 

[Delldude]

Fascism inevitably leads to issues that are solvable only by political murders

Why are the dems telling their own to get hurt?

 

[kyzr]

Why are the dems telling their own to get hurt?

Because dems know that the MSM will spin it as Gestapo violence, so ICE needs to be disbanded, and as you said in #121, they are recruiting martyrs. Democrats know they will get slaughtered in 2026 and 2028 unless they find new issues and better candidates.

 

[IM2]

ICE is operating unconstitutionally. Stop enabling Trump to create a police state.

 

[22lcidw]

Only a coward sees a rock and reaches for a gun like it’s permission to start a massacre.

The art of war says different.

 

[Seth]

The art of war says different.

The art of war also says to know your enemy. If your reflex is to treat every civilian with a rock like a combatant, you’ve already lost the discipline that separates soldier from thug.