Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

[22lcidw]

The art of war also says to know your enemy. If your reflex is to treat every civilian with a rock like a combatant, you’ve already lost the discipline that separates soldier from thug.

This is a growing problem. And the law says we can do this. It is there for a reason. Others are using it for political reasons using race, culture, etc. as the impetus. The last administration let to many people in, and the nation was overwhelmed. Immigrants need to assimilate into the American culture. And it can take many years.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Throwing rocks is deadly force. It can and has maimed and killed people. Excusing it as protests is not only stupid it is wrong.

 

[westwall]

Only a coward sees a rock and reaches for a gun like it’s permission to start a massacre.

Only a dumbshit throws a lethal weapon and thinks nothing will happen to them.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I was outraged that ICE did not shoot protesters throwing rocks at their vehicles at close range as seen in the video.
Obviously a case of "self-defense".
I'm also outraged that the vehicles that taxpayers paid for are being severely damaged.

Demonstrators throw projectiles at cars following ICE raids on Southern California farm

A confrontation erupted Thursday between protesters and federal officials carrying out a raid on a Southern California farm.

apnews.com

Trump wants them arrested. Fine. But throwing rocks or shooting fireworks should not be tolerated. We know that many protesters are armed and love to ambush ICE agents.

They need to be identified then paid a visit by FBI. Give these people J6er treatment.

Americans can use this to bait out and lock up 1000s of democrats who are traitors working to intentionally collapse America.

 

[Seth]

This is a growing problem. And the law says we can do this. It is there for a reason. Others are using it for political reasons using race, culture, etc. as the impetus. The last administration let to many people in, and the nation was overwhelmed. Immigrants need to assimilate into the American culture. And it can take many years.

Assimilation takes time, but brutality shortens lives, not waiting lines. If law and culture matter, then so do the methods we use to uphold them. Discipline draws the line between order and abuse.

 

[Seth]

Only a dumbshit throws a lethal weapon and thinks nothing will happen to them.

When a quote needs that much rage and profanity to feel strong, it's not strength—it's fear hiding behind volume. Let's aim for clarity, not carnage.

 

[Delldude]

Discipline draws the line between order and abuse.

That line has been crossed by the left.

 

[toobfreak]

I was outraged that ICE did not shoot protesters throwing rocks at their vehicles at close range as seen in the video.
Obviously a case of "self-defense".

I was shocked and furious that the intersection at the end of the dirt road "back way out" was left open and totally unsecured for protestors to gather at, try to block and to freely throw rocks at. Several of those rocks were aimed straight at the windshield at the driver and had the windshield not held, they could have been badly injured or killed. So yes, justified self-defense, lethal force fully authorized. Post a sign warning people then shoot anything that moves.

I'm also outraged that the vehicles that taxpayers paid for are being severely damaged.

They need to arrest those involved and make them pay back every dime of the cost + prison time.

Trump wants them arrested. Fine. But throwing rocks or shooting fireworks should not be tolerated. We know that many protesters are armed and love to ambush ICE agents.

One guy was seen pointing a gun. At this point, I would secure a 500 foot dead zone away from ICE agents and anyone crossing the line is subject to whatever means deemed necessary.

Just remember what they said about Ashli Babbitt "deserving it" just because she tried to walk unarmed peacefully through a doorway in the capitol. Therefore, shoot these bastards I don't care who they are: protestor, governor, mayor, armed or unarmed and tough luck on you.

After all, these fuckers are coming to these places LOOKING for trouble.

Just remember Joe Biden's comment about the Fed having F-16s and nukes.

 

[toobfreak]

When a quote needs that much rage and profanity to feel strong, it's not strength—it's fear hiding behind volume. Let's aim for clarity, not carnage.

Blow it out your ass.

 

[Seth]

That line has been crossed by the left.

And yet the moment we excuse abuse as discipline—whoever does it—we’ve already crossed back. Law without limits becomes vengeance. Just look at the PATRIOT Act: sold as discipline after 9/11, it gave us warrantless surveillance, secret courts, and decades of bipartisan regret.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

ICE should have the same right as me, stand their ground

 

[Seth]

Blow it out your ass.

I aim for clarity, you aim for the plumbing. Not every reply deserves elevation—some just confirm the altitude.

 

[toobfreak]

Sloppy design.

1. There needs to be a shield blocking spent casings from rolling down the windshield blocking the driver's view and directing these casings off the sides of the roof.
2. Those roof doors block the shooter's FOV and do nothing to protect him.

 

[toobfreak]

I aim for clarity, you aim for the plumbing. Not every reply deserves elevation—some just confirm the altitude.

Blow it out your ass, dipshit.

 

[Failzero]

Only a dumbshit throws a lethal weapon and thinks nothing will happen to them.

They think they are entitled & on the right side of History

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Shooting a rock thrower, or three, would simply escalate the problem. The rock throwers would show up with guns the next time. "Aim for the mask!"

ANIFTA would hate if that happened

 

[Seth]

ICE should have the same right as me, stand their ground

California (where this raid occurred) does have a stand-your-ground law, yet those protections apply to civilians under imminent danger, not to federal agents during the course of a planned raid. Different legal standards, different responsibilities.

 

[toobfreak]

Killing people for throwing rocks? Isn't that a third world country type of thing?

No, moron, using deadly force in self-defense for attacks involving lethal force.

Now tell me I can't kill you with a rock.

Or maybe ICE ought to use shotguns loaded with granite gravel in the nutsack, your choice.

 

[Delldude]

And yet the moment we excuse abuse as discipline—whoever does it—we’ve already crossed back

I swear I saw a bunch of illegals using rocks to discipline law enforcement.

Just look at the PATRIOT Act: sold as discipline after 9/11, it gave us warrantless surveillance, secret courts, and decades of bipartisan regret.

Gee whizz...... I read there's an investigation looking into just that.

 

[Seth]

Blow it out your ass, dipshit.

You seem awfully committed to the plumbing for someone who claims to be on the way home to Earth. Let me know when you land—maybe then we can talk altitude.