Should ICE shoot rock throwing protesters? (Poll)

[toobfreak]

We are so far past the time to break out the fire hoses that it's mind boggling.

Let's be clear these people have gone a million miles past protesting. They begin with felony obstruction of law enforcement and are finishing with deadly attacks.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

California (where this raid occurred) does have a stand-your-ground law, yet those protections apply to civilians under imminent danger, not to federal agents during the course of a planned raid. Different legal standards, different responsibilities.

They are law officers, if they are attacked deadly force is warranted

 

[toobfreak]

Shoot one in the leg and the rest will run away.

I've been told 1000 times you don't aim for the legs in a gunfight, you aim for the torso, the chest.

 

[Oddball]

When a quote needs that much rage and profanity to feel strong, it's not strength—it's fear hiding behind volume. Let's aim for clarity, not carnage.

Clarity: Throwing large rocks and chunks of concrete can kill people...Deadly force is appropriate.

 

[Seth]

I swear I saw a bunch of illegals using rocks to discipline law enforcement.


Gee whizz...... I read there's an investigation looking into just that.

I’m sure you did—memory’s a tricky thing when the footage doesn’t match the feeling. Discipline isn’t chaos with a badge. And every time we call abuse “justice” just because we like who’s holding the baton, we invite that baton to swing back one day with our name on it.

 

[Oddball]

I've been told 1000 times you don't aim for the legs in a gunfight, you aim for the torso, the chest.

Center of mass.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And yet the moment we excuse abuse as discipline—whoever does it—we’ve already crossed back. Law without limits becomes vengeance. Just look at the PATRIOT Act: sold as discipline after 9/11, it gave us warrantless surveillance, secret courts, and decades of bipartisan regret.

Again, throwing rocks is deadly force it kills people. It is not legit protest.

 

[Oddball]

I’m sure you did—memory’s a tricky thing when the footage doesn’t match the feeling. Discipline isn’t chaos with a badge. And every time we call abuse “justice” just because we like who’s holding the baton, we invite that baton to swing back one day with our name on it.

Sophistry...Police are being deliberately attacked by flash mobs.

 

[toobfreak]

If they shouldn’t have shot people who were clubbing them with ladders, crutches, aluminum poles, spraying them with bear spray, throwing fire extinguishers at them, physically assaulting them (think about 1/6) ...then they shouldn’t shoot them for throwing rocks, right?

Wrong again. The protestors of J6 were defending themselves. They didn't start the violence, the capitol police did, they were using that stuff fighting back. You've had four years to learn the facts and see all the video, most of it shown here, so I guess there just is no cure for stupid.

 

[1srelluc]

Sloppy design.

1. There needs to be a shield blocking spent casings from rolling down the windshield blocking the driver's view and directing these casings off the sides of the roof.
2. Those roof doors block the shooter's FOV and do nothing to protect him.

You would only need to use it once.

 

[Seth]

Clarity: Throwing large rocks and chunks of concrete can kill people...Deadly force is appropriate.

That’s exactly what the cartels want—us trading rule of law for reflex. They can’t outgun the U.S., but they can out-temper us. Every time we endorse deadly force as a first response, we fight their war their way. And we lose a little more of what we’re supposed to be defending.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

California (where this raid occurred) does have a stand-your-ground law, yet those protections apply to civilians under imminent danger, not to federal agents during the course of a planned raid. Different legal standards, different responsibilities.

except you conveniently are ignore there is no difference between throwing a rock and firing a weapon at the police.

 

[Delldude]

I’m sure you did—memory’s a tricky thing when the footage doesn’t match the feeling. Discipline isn’t chaos with a badge. And every time we call abuse “justice” just because we like who’s holding the baton, we invite that baton to swing back one day with our name on it.

Isn't about discipline....... it's about upholding the rule of law.

If you don't like the law, get involved and change it.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Some leftist loon starts throwing rocks at me or mine they'll probably end up properly ventilated. I'm not kidding

 

[WelfareQueen]

Killing people for throwing rocks? Isn't that a third world country type of thing?

Is throwing rocks at law enforcement or their moving vehicles what you Dims would call "mostly peaceful protests."

 

[toobfreak]

Ask Nancy Pelosi, she takes responsibility for J6.

You're wasting your time with a numbnut--- Nancy is on video ADMITTING that so what do you get?

Total denial from the leftwing cult.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I’m sure you did—memory’s a tricky thing when the footage doesn’t match the feeling. Discipline isn’t chaos with a badge. And every time we call abuse “justice” just because we like who’s holding the baton, we invite that baton to swing back one day with our name on it.

throwing rocks is a deadly attack and responding with deadly force to it is not abuse.

 

[toobfreak]

Don't believe me? Volunteer for target practice as the target and let us know how it works out for you.

Just remember what they did in ancient times--- they would gather and stone you to death.

 

[Oddball]

That’s exactly what the cartels want—us trading rule of law for reflex.

So now you're a mind reader?

They can’t outgun the U.S., but they can out-temper us. Every time we endorse deadly force as a first response, we fight their war their way. And we lose a little more of what we’re supposed to be defending.

Attacking the police violates the rule of law, you bloody simpleton.

 

[kyzr]

That’s exactly what the cartels want—us trading rule of law for reflex. They can’t outgun the U.S., but they can out-temper us. Every time we endorse deadly force as a first response, we fight their war their way. And we lose a little more of what we’re supposed to be defending.

Trump just gave law enforcement the green light to defend themselves from "slimeballs".
No one is better at defending "law and order" than Trump.
Watch the video in the OP if you're not sure he's right.