Should Conservative States Try To Secede? Again?

[Pogo]

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

Lie much?

Why no Pothead. Are you offering lessons?

 

[Pogo]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

The level of stupid..is just breathtaking here! Calhoun and Clay..are rolling in their graves...laughing their bony asses off!

Slavery is a liberal idea, the GOP has always been against it. Remember that the basis of slavery is people telling other people what to do. If I'm told to wear a mask to go into Walmart, that's a form of slavery.

Modern political thinkers have compared the new lib ideas like Obamacare with Slavery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

Except..as you've been told, time and time again..the Democrats in 1860 were the conservative party..and The Republicans..the party of Lincoln..were the liberals.

As we all know..this has changed..if you believe otherwise you are stupid. If you know the truth..but choose to use a lie to troll..you are an idiot--either way~

Every time you post this you reveal your ignorance..and open youself up to ridicule...although..i guess you're used to that.

So the conservatives founded America, ✔

"America" is two continents but "the United States" thereof was founded by, and its Constitution written by, Liberalism.

The conservatives of the time were those who wanted to, as conservatives always do, maintain the status quo or "stay the course". And that meant staying a colony of England.

So liberals wants slaves , deny the women the right to vote and for the 2nd amendment?

Why do you always fall in my traps?

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

That's your excuse to say liberals founded America?


LMFAO

There's no "excuse" involved. It's simple factual history. One of which you're apparently blissfully ignorant.

Liberalism declared the then-radical idea that governmental power derives from the consent of the governed and not from a royal family or religious poobah. That's what Liberalism MEANS. Once AGAIN the conservatives of the same time thought that power derives from Aristocracy and Clergy. There's no fucking way they would have founded a country in direct opposition to what they believed in their tiny narrow minds.

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

So in your world the Democrats founded America and created the KKK ✔

I see you've been to K-Mart to buy checks.

(1) "Democrats" didn't exist when the US was founded;
(2) "Democrats" also didn't exist in the time and place when/where the KKK was founded;
(3) "America" has never been "founded". It was "formed" by planetary shifts but that's a different thing.

Say what pickle head?

The Democrat party existed in the 1790s, it took the republican [sic] party formed in the mid 1800s to beat them and end slavery.

Fucking unmitigated ass-derived bullshit. Just as there is no country called "America", there is no political party called "the Democrat Party". There never has been.

The Democratic Party didn't exist until Martin van Buren organized it in the 1830s and its opponents were the Whigs. Those formed out of the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters (called "Jacksonians" for lack of a formal name) and his detractors called "Anti-Jacksonians" for the same reason. Henry Clay organized the Whigs at the same time van Buren was organizing the Democrats.

A number of anti-slavery political parties sprang up in the first half of the 19th century. The Liberty Party (1840) and most prominently the Free Soil Party (1848). Guess who the Free Soiler's Presidential candidate was.

Spoiler: Answer here

Martin van Buren

Are history books like some kind of virus to you or what?

 

[Pogo]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Finally, back to your first line --- No Virginia, "America" is NOT the name of a country. Never has been.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

The level of stupid..is just breathtaking here! Calhoun and Clay..are rolling in their graves...laughing their bony asses off!

Slavery is a liberal idea, the GOP has always been against it. Remember that the basis of slavery is people telling other people what to do. If I'm told to wear a mask to go into Walmart, that's a form of slavery.

Modern political thinkers have compared the new lib ideas like Obamacare with Slavery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

Except..as you've been told, time and time again..the Democrats in 1860 were the conservative party..and The Republicans..the party of Lincoln..were the liberals.

As we all know..this has changed..if you believe otherwise you are stupid. If you know the truth..but choose to use a lie to troll..you are an idiot--either way~

Every time you post this you reveal your ignorance..and open youself up to ridicule...although..i guess you're used to that.

So the conservatives founded America, ✔

"America" is two continents but "the United States" thereof was founded by, and its Constitution written by, Liberalism.

The conservatives of the time were those who wanted to, as conservatives always do, maintain the status quo or "stay the course". And that meant staying a colony of England.

So liberals wants slaves , deny the women the right to vote and for the 2nd amendment?

Why do you always fall in my traps?

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

That's your excuse to say liberals founded America?


LMFAO

There's no "excuse" involved. It's simple factual history. One of which you're apparently blissfully ignorant.

Liberalism declared the then-radical idea that governmental power derives from the consent of the governed and not from a royal family or religious poobah. That's what Liberalism MEANS. Once AGAIN the conservatives of the same time thought that power derives from Aristocracy and Clergy. There's no fucking way they would have founded a country in direct opposition to what they believed in their tiny narrow minds.

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

So in your world the Democrats founded America and created the KKK ✔

I see you've been to K-Mart to buy checks.

(1) "Democrats" didn't exist when the US was founded;
(2) "Democrats" also didn't exist in the time and place when/where the KKK was founded;
(3) "America" has never been "founded". It was "formed" by planetary shifts but that's a different thing.

Say what pickle head?

The Democrat party existed in the 1790s, it took the republican [sic] party formed in the mid 1800s to beat them and end slavery.

Fucking unmitigated ass-derived bullshit. The Democratic Party didn't exist until Martin van Buren organized it in the 1830s and its opponents were the Whigs. Those formed out of the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters (called "Jacksonians" for lack of a formal name) and his detractors called "Anti-Jacksonians" for the same reason. Henry Clay organized the Whigs at the same time van Buren was organizing the Democrats.

Are history books like some kind of virus to you or what?

Unfamiliar asshat with the Democrat republican party a direct descendant of the modern Democrat party

 

[Polishprince]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

 

[Pogo]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

The level of stupid..is just breathtaking here! Calhoun and Clay..are rolling in their graves...laughing their bony asses off!

Slavery is a liberal idea, the GOP has always been against it. Remember that the basis of slavery is people telling other people what to do. If I'm told to wear a mask to go into Walmart, that's a form of slavery.

Modern political thinkers have compared the new lib ideas like Obamacare with Slavery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

Except..as you've been told, time and time again..the Democrats in 1860 were the conservative party..and The Republicans..the party of Lincoln..were the liberals.

As we all know..this has changed..if you believe otherwise you are stupid. If you know the truth..but choose to use a lie to troll..you are an idiot--either way~

Every time you post this you reveal your ignorance..and open youself up to ridicule...although..i guess you're used to that.

So the conservatives founded America, ✔

"America" is two continents but "the United States" thereof was founded by, and its Constitution written by, Liberalism.

The conservatives of the time were those who wanted to, as conservatives always do, maintain the status quo or "stay the course". And that meant staying a colony of England.

So liberals wants slaves , deny the women the right to vote and for the 2nd amendment?

Why do you always fall in my traps?

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

That's your excuse to say liberals founded America?


LMFAO

There's no "excuse" involved. It's simple factual history. One of which you're apparently blissfully ignorant.

Liberalism declared the then-radical idea that governmental power derives from the consent of the governed and not from a royal family or religious poobah. That's what Liberalism MEANS. Once AGAIN the conservatives of the same time thought that power derives from Aristocracy and Clergy. There's no fucking way they would have founded a country in direct opposition to what they believed in their tiny narrow minds.

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

So in your world the Democrats founded America and created the KKK ✔

I see you've been to K-Mart to buy checks.

(1) "Democrats" didn't exist when the US was founded;
(2) "Democrats" also didn't exist in the time and place when/where the KKK was founded;
(3) "America" has never been "founded". It was "formed" by planetary shifts but that's a different thing.

Say what pickle head?

The Democrat party existed in the 1790s, it took the republican [sic] party formed in the mid 1800s to beat them and end slavery.

Fucking unmitigated ass-derived bullshit. Just as there is no country called "America", there is no political party called "the Democrat Party". There never has been.

The Democratic Party didn't exist until Martin van Buren organized it in the 1830s and its opponents were the Whigs. Those formed out of the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters (called "Jacksonians" for lack of a formal name) and his detractors called "Anti-Jacksonians" for the same reason. Henry Clay organized the Whigs at the same time van Buren was organizing the Democrats.

Are history books like some kind of virus to you or what?

Unfamiliar asshat with the Democrat republican party a direct descendant of the modern Democrat party

Once AGAIN as above, not only has there never existed a "Democrat Party", there has also never existed a "Democrat republican [sic] party" either. There has however been a Democratic-Republican Party, with which Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Quincy Adams were affiliated. They disintegrated after Adams and are not related to either party that used those terms later on.

Again, the Democrats (of today) derived from the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters, not from the "1790s" or whatever bullshit you derive from your used toilet paper. Jackson didn't need a party to get elected; he was already widely known from his military exploits.

FURTHER, Dumbass unfamiliar with the concept of linear time, a "descendant of the modern Democratic party [sic] would by definition exist in the FUTURE.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

The level of stupid..is just breathtaking here! Calhoun and Clay..are rolling in their graves...laughing their bony asses off!

Slavery is a liberal idea, the GOP has always been against it. Remember that the basis of slavery is people telling other people what to do. If I'm told to wear a mask to go into Walmart, that's a form of slavery.

Modern political thinkers have compared the new lib ideas like Obamacare with Slavery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

Except..as you've been told, time and time again..the Democrats in 1860 were the conservative party..and The Republicans..the party of Lincoln..were the liberals.

As we all know..this has changed..if you believe otherwise you are stupid. If you know the truth..but choose to use a lie to troll..you are an idiot--either way~

Every time you post this you reveal your ignorance..and open youself up to ridicule...although..i guess you're used to that.

So the conservatives founded America, ✔

"America" is two continents but "the United States" thereof was founded by, and its Constitution written by, Liberalism.

The conservatives of the time were those who wanted to, as conservatives always do, maintain the status quo or "stay the course". And that meant staying a colony of England.

So liberals wants slaves , deny the women the right to vote and for the 2nd amendment?

Why do you always fall in my traps?

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

That's your excuse to say liberals founded America?


LMFAO

There's no "excuse" involved. It's simple factual history. One of which you're apparently blissfully ignorant.

Liberalism declared the then-radical idea that governmental power derives from the consent of the governed and not from a royal family or religious poobah. That's what Liberalism MEANS. Once AGAIN the conservatives of the same time thought that power derives from Aristocracy and Clergy. There's no fucking way they would have founded a country in direct opposition to what they believed in their tiny narrow minds.

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

So in your world the Democrats founded America and created the KKK ✔

I see you've been to K-Mart to buy checks.

(1) "Democrats" didn't exist when the US was founded;
(2) "Democrats" also didn't exist in the time and place when/where the KKK was founded;
(3) "America" has never been "founded". It was "formed" by planetary shifts but that's a different thing.

Say what pickle head?

The Democrat party existed in the 1790s, it took the republican [sic] party formed in the mid 1800s to beat them and end slavery.

Fucking unmitigated ass-derived bullshit. Just as there is no country called "America", there is no political party called "the Democrat Party". There never has been.

The Democratic Party didn't exist until Martin van Buren organized it in the 1830s and its opponents were the Whigs. Those formed out of the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters (called "Jacksonians" for lack of a formal name) and his detractors called "Anti-Jacksonians" for the same reason. Henry Clay organized the Whigs at the same time van Buren was organizing the Democrats.

Are history books like some kind of virus to you or what?

Unfamiliar asshat with the Democrat republican party a direct descendant of the modern Democrat party

Once AGAIN as above, not only has there never existed a "Democrat Party", there has also never existed a "Democrat republican [sic] party" either. There has however been a Democratic-Republican Party, with which Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Quincy Adams were affiliated. They disintegrated after Adams and are not related to either party that used those terms later on.

Again, the Democrats (of today) derived from the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters, not from the "1790s" or whatever bullshit you derive from your used toilet paper. Jackson didn't need a party to get elected; he was already widely known from his military exploits.

FURTHER, Dumbass unfamiliar with the concept of linear time, a "descendant of the modern Democratic party [sic] would by definition exist in the FUTURE.

You silly the Democrat party has/ was started in the 1790s vs the whigs

 

[Pogo]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

The level of stupid..is just breathtaking here! Calhoun and Clay..are rolling in their graves...laughing their bony asses off!

Slavery is a liberal idea, the GOP has always been against it. Remember that the basis of slavery is people telling other people what to do. If I'm told to wear a mask to go into Walmart, that's a form of slavery.

Modern political thinkers have compared the new lib ideas like Obamacare with Slavery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

Except..as you've been told, time and time again..the Democrats in 1860 were the conservative party..and The Republicans..the party of Lincoln..were the liberals.

As we all know..this has changed..if you believe otherwise you are stupid. If you know the truth..but choose to use a lie to troll..you are an idiot--either way~

Every time you post this you reveal your ignorance..and open youself up to ridicule...although..i guess you're used to that.

So the conservatives founded America, ✔

"America" is two continents but "the United States" thereof was founded by, and its Constitution written by, Liberalism.

The conservatives of the time were those who wanted to, as conservatives always do, maintain the status quo or "stay the course". And that meant staying a colony of England.

So liberals wants slaves , deny the women the right to vote and for the 2nd amendment?

Why do you always fall in my traps?

Why can't you write a sentence in English?

Nobody "wants slaves". Slavery was already established here 250 years before the country was. Dismissing women was established way farther back than that. And yes the Second Amendment was part of the Bill of Rights, although clearly not thought through.

The point stands --- you had it exactly backward. The conservatives of the time DIDN'T WANT an independent country here. And you thought they "founded" it.

That's your excuse to say liberals founded America?


LMFAO

There's no "excuse" involved. It's simple factual history. One of which you're apparently blissfully ignorant.

Liberalism declared the then-radical idea that governmental power derives from the consent of the governed and not from a royal family or religious poobah. That's what Liberalism MEANS. Once AGAIN the conservatives of the same time thought that power derives from Aristocracy and Clergy. There's no fucking way they would have founded a country in direct opposition to what they believed in their tiny narrow minds.

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

So in your world the Democrats founded America and created the KKK ✔

I see you've been to K-Mart to buy checks.

(1) "Democrats" didn't exist when the US was founded;
(2) "Democrats" also didn't exist in the time and place when/where the KKK was founded;
(3) "America" has never been "founded". It was "formed" by planetary shifts but that's a different thing.

Say what pickle head?

The Democrat party existed in the 1790s, it took the republican [sic] party formed in the mid 1800s to beat them and end slavery.

Fucking unmitigated ass-derived bullshit. Just as there is no country called "America", there is no political party called "the Democrat Party". There never has been.

The Democratic Party didn't exist until Martin van Buren organized it in the 1830s and its opponents were the Whigs. Those formed out of the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters (called "Jacksonians" for lack of a formal name) and his detractors called "Anti-Jacksonians" for the same reason. Henry Clay organized the Whigs at the same time van Buren was organizing the Democrats.

Are history books like some kind of virus to you or what?

Unfamiliar asshat with the Democrat republican party a direct descendant of the modern Democrat party

Once AGAIN as above, not only has there never existed a "Democrat Party", there has also never existed a "Democrat republican [sic] party" either. There has however been a Democratic-Republican Party, with which Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Quincy Adams were affiliated. They disintegrated after Adams and are not related to either party that used those terms later on.

Again, the Democrats (of today) derived from the loose body of Andrew Jackson supporters, not from the "1790s" or whatever bullshit you derive from your used toilet paper. Jackson didn't need a party to get elected; he was already widely known from his military exploits.

FURTHER, Dumbass unfamiliar with the concept of linear time, a "descendant of the modern Democratic party [sic] would by definition exist in the FUTURE.

You silly the Democrat party has/ was started in the 1790s vs the whigs

NEITHER the Democrats, NOR the Whigs, existed in 1790. Both Martin van Buren and Henry Clay --- who were both children at the time ---- would have been rather shocked to learn that they had formed political parties in between their school lessons. Van Buren might not have even understood English yet. In 1790 the FIRST political party in the United States ---- or in "America" for that matter ---- was just beginning to coalesce under Alexander Hamilton. That was the Federalist Party.

Don't fuck with me. I'm heavily armed with history books and I won't hesitate to use them. Bullshit is my favorite target. Look what happened to Pothead after I whupped his ass with a history book. He ran away and even as we speak is hiding under his bedsheets making low moaning noises.

I shall show no mercy.

 

[Pogo]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

If IQ comes in negative numbers, you're the reason.

Liberalism and Slavery are mutually exclusive. There's no room for Slavery in "All men are created equal".

As for your abject cluelessness about what words mean versus what you wish they meant ---- get help.

This is why you're on the Ignore list. Too. Fucking. Stupid.

 

[IM2]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

Actually, it was the liberals who seceded in the 1860's, not conservatives.

Wrong.

 

[BWK]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

If IQ comes in negative numbers, you're the reason.

Liberalism and Slavery are mutually exclusive. There's no room for Slavery in "All men are created equal".

As for your abject cluelessness about what words mean versus what you wish they meant ---- get help.

This is why you're on the Ignore list. Too. Fucking. Stupid.

I second that motion.

 

[IM2]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

We are a nation divided more deeply than when democrats fought to keep their slaves

There was no democratic party in the Confederate country.

 

[BWK]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

When arguing with an idiot, they'll just bring you down with experience.

But ha, just for funs and giggles, can you tell us the difference between saving lives with mandatory masking and an existing law against driving drunk? If both were laws, and one is, would both be in violation of your liberties?

 

[IM2]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

When arguing with an idiot, they'll just bring you down with experience.

But ha, just for funs and giggles, can you tell us the difference between saving lives with mandatory masking and an existing law against driving drunk? If both were laws, and one is, would both be in violation of your liberties?

Damn! That was a bomb. Good one!

 

[BWK]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

When arguing with an idiot, they'll just bring you down with experience.

But ha, just for funs and giggles, can you tell us the difference between saving lives with mandatory masking and an existing law against driving drunk? If both were laws, and one is, would both be in violation of your liberties?

Damn! That was a bomb. Good one!

I don't know about that, but one things for sure, he doesn't have an answer.

 

[IM2]

And once AGAIN --- nobody "founded America". "America" is two continents comprising thirty-five countries.

America is the name of the country, whose formalized name is the "United States of America", much like Brazil is the name of the "United States of Brazil".

Further, "liberalism" is name co-opted by the Marxists to describe their ideology after "progressive" and "socialist" were discredited in the 20th Century. Its just a name, and has nothing to do with the founding of America.

Again total and complete fucking bullshit.

>> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support free markets, free trade, limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism, democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10] Yellow is the political colour most commonly associated with liberalism.[11][12][13]​

​

Liberalism became a distinct movement in the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among Western philosophers and economists. Liberalism sought to replace the norms of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, the divine right of kings and traditional conservatism with representative democracy and the rule of law. Liberals also ended mercantilist policies, royal monopolies and other barriers to trade, instead promoting free trade and free markets.[14] Philosopher John Locke is often credited with founding liberalism as a distinct tradition, based on the social contract, arguing that each man has a natural right to life, liberty and property and governments must not violate these rights.[15] While the British liberal tradition has emphasized expanding democracy, French liberalism has emphasized rejecting authoritarianism and is linked to nation-building.[16]​

​

Leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688,[17] the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny. Liberalism started to spread rapidly especially after the French Revolution. The 19th century saw liberal governments established in nations across Europe and South America, whereas it was well-established alongside republicanism in the United States.[18] In Victorian Britain, it was used to critique the political establishment, appealing to science and reason on behalf of the people.[19] During 19th and early 20th century, liberalism in the Ottoman Empire and Middle East influenced periods of reform such as the Tanzimat and Al-Nahda as well as the rise of constitutionalism, nationalism and secularism. These changes, along with other factors, helped to create a sense of crisis within Islam, which continues to this day, leading to Islamic revivalism. Before 1920, the main ideological opponents of liberalism were communism, conservatism and socialism,[20] but liberalism then faced major ideological challenges from fascism and Marxism–Leninism as new opponents. During the 20th century, liberal ideas spread even further, especially in Western Europe, as liberal democracies found themselves on the winning side in both world wars.[21] << (Wiki)​

Cult of Ignorance destroyed yet again.

Who the fuck do you think you are, the UDC?

Modern Liberalism has nothing to do with "liberty", in fact its in opposition to liberty.

Obamacare, the ultimate Liberal Program, was based upon the idea of FORCING people to buy a product, insurance, that they may not want.

In the current year, Mandatory Masking is about forcing people to dress according to liberal dictates.

Liberalism and Slavery are joined at the hip. Because it really doesn't matter if the liberal overseer is ordering you to wear a mask, buy an insurance policy, or to pick cotton in the fields, its all the same. Telling other people what to do, whether they want to or not.

When arguing with an idiot, they'll just bring you down with experience.

But ha, just for funs and giggles, can you tell us the difference between saving lives with mandatory masking and an existing law against driving drunk? If both were laws, and one is, would both be in violation of your liberties?

Damn! That was a bomb. Good one!

I don't know about that, but one things for sure, he doesn't have an answer.

No he doesn't. That's why I say you dropped a bomb.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Rush Limbaugh Says Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

The radio host's remarks came after a Republican Rep. announced his plans to introduce a Texas Independence Referendum Act.

www.newsweek.com

"Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh has suggested that some American states could soon breakaway from the United States and declare independence. Speaking on his program, The Rush Limbaugh Show, on Wednesday, Limbaugh claimed that "there cannot be a peaceful coexistence" between liberal and conservative America, which he said had increasingly different cultures."

Well, its usually that time of year again; when conservatives opine about seceding and having second Civil Wars and such -- and it always seems to come right after another election loss because of how patriotic they are and all.....

Sounds more like white nationalist fascism talk to me -- where they talk about how there should be only one culture centered around a dominant race; headed by a dictatorial leader with forcible suppression to any opposition -- cool, have at it guys...and I guarantee you, within a matter of years, you will be wanting to secede from that because even that isn't culturally pure enough....Seems conservatives hate America when Americans forces it to live up to its ideas instead of paying it lip service thru empty symbolism and jingoism....

We are a nation divided more deeply than when democrats fought to keep their slaves

There was no democratic party in the Confederate country.

The democrat Party was the party of slavers and slavery. Read a book

 

[Papageorgio]

No state or states will leave the union, every stupid election the left and right start playing games.

 

[LeftofLeft]

If Conservative states seceded, the liberals would shit themselves over the loss of all the oil money, military industrial, and corporate revenue that actually pays for their agenda.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

If Conservative states seceded, the liberals would shit themselves over the loss of all the oil money, military industrial, and corporate revenue that actually pays for their agenda.

And who is going to stop a nation with MORE MILITARY POWER from taking that oil?? The US? You definitely can't be asking "our military" to protect you

Or will these so-called "conservative states" form another US??