Shohei Ohtani is the Best BB Player Ever

[Failzero]

ok.....who are they?....

The ones mentioned earlier who played in the 20th Century

 

[protectionist]

you are going by their first 8 years?....well you will have to give ohtani 3-4 more years then....his first 3 he wasnt a full time player...

Taking away his first 3 years, gives him 5 years with a average of .285. Not much of any difference. Sill milles away from the top hitters of MLB history.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Taking away his first 3 years, gives him 5 years with a average of .285. Not much of any difference. Sill milles away from the top hitters of MLB history.

even Ted Williams said its hard to judge players from different eras....players get better and conditions change.....when Ohtani has 18 years in lets see what he looks like then....

 

[protectionist]

even Ted Williams said its hard to judge players from different eras....players get better and conditions change.....when Ohtani has 18 years in lets see what he looks like then....

Sure, but then let's not call him a "great hitter". Actually, his very mediocre batting average of .282 or .285 spans 8 years , so he woud really have to hit abouot .400 every year for 10 years, to come up to the career batting average levels of Williams, Musial, Ruth, Gehrig, etc.

That's not gonna happen.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sure, but then let's not call him a "great hitter". Actually, his very mediocre batting average of .282 or .285 spans 8 years , so he woud really have to hit abouot .400 every year for 10 years, to come up to the career batting average levels of Williams, Musial, Ruth, Gehrig, etc.

That's not gonna happen.

i like how you pick the cream of the crop to compare him to....not to many players even back then compared to those guys...and a .280 batting avg aint considered "mediocre" in MLB....that would be below .250 which is about Avg for many players.....280 is considered pretty good.....

 

[Meathead]

i like how you pick the cream of the crop to compare him to....not to many players even back then compared to those guys...and a .280 batting avg aint considered "mediocre" in MLB....that would be below .250 which is about Avg for many players.....280 is considered pretty good.....

Trea Turner who got the NL batting title hit .304 ffs.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Trea Turner who got the NL batting title hit .304 ffs.

Carl Yastremski hit .301 in 68 and led the league...what you going to do?...

 

[Meathead]

Carl Yastremski hit .301 in 68 and led the league...what you going to do?...

They lowered the mound.

 

[Harry Dresden]

They lowered the mound.

they have done a lot of things over the years....i saw i video about the history of the baseball over the years from 1871 on....in the 1800's they would use the same ball until the ******* cover came off....thats the way it was when the neighborhood kids were playing...in the dead ball era they would use the same ball until the cover was ready to come off,so they played half the game with a lumpy beat up ball...the so called dead ball....good thing they changed that shit in 1920....

 

[protectionist]

i like how you pick the cream of the crop to compare him to....not to many players even back then compared to those guys...and a .280 batting avg aint considered "mediocre" in MLB....that would be below .250 which is about Avg for many players.....280 is considered pretty good.....

I compare him to the cream of the crop (Musial, Williams, Ruth Gehrig), because the topic (and title) of the thread is > "

Shohei Ohtani is the Best BB Player Ever​

Duh!

 

[protectionist]

World Series Game 4, 3rd inning - did you see Ohtani strike out on a pitch a foot above the knees, right down the middle ?
Musial or Williams would have put that ball in the right field seats, without blinking an eye.

 

[Winco]

Number 9, look at #9 in the entire AL in1927.
9 HR's for the entire year.
Ruth hit more HR's by himself than 23 OTHER MLB entire Team.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/team/1927

Now in todays game, there are players consistently hitting 9 HR's in the first month.

That is how dominant Ruth was, along with the Iron Man.

BTW, Ohtani is dominate, the current BEST player in MLB.

Thoughts by bluzman61 ?

 

[protectionist]

Game 4, 5th inning - Ohtani struck out looking. As George H Bush would say > Bad! Bad!

 

[Winco]

Game 4, 5th inning - Ohtani struck out looking. As George H Bush would say > Bad! Bad!

Are you attempting to shame Ohtani?

 

[bluzman61]

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Number 9, look at #9 in the entire AL in1927.
9 HR's for the entire year.
Ruth hit more HR's by himself than 23 OTHER MLB entire Team.

https://www.mlb.com/stats/team/1927

Now in todays game, there are players consistently hitting 9 HR's in the first month.

That is how dominant Ruth was, along with the Iron Man.

BTW, Ohtani is dominate, the current BEST player in MLB.

Thoughts by bluzman61 ?

I believe Ruth was THE best baseball player ever, in any era. And I agree that Ohtani is the best current player.

 

[protectionist]

BTW, Ohtani is dominate, the current BEST player in MLB.

Not hardly. At a batting averag of .282, Ohtani was 25th in batting, 24 guys higher than him. His .282 avg was 49 points lower than the MLB leader, Aaron Judge at .331.

 

[Winco]

Not hardly. At a batting averag of .282, Ohtani was 25th in batting, 24 guys higher than him. His .282 avg was 49 points lower than the MLB leader, Aaron Judge at .331.

So what exactly is your point?

Let me guess, you don't think Ohtani is currently the BEST player in MLB 2025 season.
Am I right?

So defend your choice.

 

[protectionist]

I believe Ruth was THE best baseball player ever, in any era. And I agree that Ohtani is the best current player.

How is that possible when his batting average is 49 points lower than the mlb leader ? He's a power hitter that doesn't even approach hitting .300. Ruth, Judge, Mantle hit 50 something HRS, but they hit for high batting averages at the same time.

1956 Mickey Mantle - 52 home runs, .353 BA.....1957 - .365

2025 Aaron Judge - 53 home runs, .331 BA, 114 RBIs

 

[protectionist]

So what exactly is your point?

Let me guess, you don't think Ohtani is currently the BEST player in MLB 2025 season.
Am I right?

So defend your choice.

That is corrrect. I already defended it in post # 78

PS - Blue Jays just knocked Ohtani out of the game (World Series Game 4). Gave up 4 earned runs on 7 hits (7th inning)
Blue Jays leading 6 to 1.

 

[Winco]

That is corrrect. I already defended it in post # 78

So your choice is Judge?