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[Derideo_Te]

Then you probably missed this study:

http://credo.stanford.edu/documents/NCSS 2013 Final Draft.pdf

Stanford Study Says Charter School Children Outperform - Bloomberg

Did you read your own links?

Students from all backgrounds didn’t benefit equally from charter schools, the study found. Black students in poverty achieved above-average learning gains -- equivalent to 36 additional days of learning in math -- as did low-income Hispanic students. White students fared worse overall, while Asians did more poorly only in math.

To address concerns about differences in school populations, the Stanford study sought to compare the improvement in academic achievement of similar students, matching each pupil at a charter with a “virtual twin” at a regular school with similar state test scores while controlling for demographics.

Charters now serve about 4 percent of the nation’s public school pupils, with more than 2.3 million students in over 6,000 schools in 41 states, according to the study. Enrollment has surged 80 percent since the 2009 report.

Given that only 4% of children are educated in 6,000 charter schools and 20% of those should be shut down for failing to provide an education on a par with public schools is not exactly proof of what PoliticalSpice is alleging. If anything it proves that she is basing this thread upon a fallacy.

That's a lot better than the public schools record!!

Not according to the link provided by TK. Your failure to provide a link is duly noted and you have tacitly conceded that you cannot provide any test scores to support your allegation. Therefore you have forfeited your position. Have a nice day.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just work for Wally World and invest directly from your paycheck, like my wife..

Something along those lines is a major reason why folks work for Wal-Mart.

And exactly why the other poster is wrong about 'living wages' not provided by said employment.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Oh boy, yet another PoliticalSpice thread based upon a complete fallacy.

There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools.

"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



Showing you to be.....'challenged' mentally ...has been done with metronomic regularity...and continuing same is akin to beating a dead horse....

...but it is my guilty pleasure....so:




Public charter schools shrink achievement gaps for minority and low-income students in urban schools.

Public charter middle schools in Boston cut the black-white achievement gap in math by as much as half in a single year. Significant increases in student achievement also happen in English and math at both the middle school and high school level. (The Boston Foundation, 2009; Harvard University, 2011).

Public charter schools were more effective for lower income and lower achieving students than for higher income and higher achieving students. In addition, charter schools in large urban areas had positive impacts on student achievement in math. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

Black and Hispanic students who attended charter schools in NYC for eight years closed the achievement gap with affluent suburbs like Scarsdale by 86% in math and 66% in English. (National Bureau of Economic Research, 2009).


The CREDO study by Stanford University found that students in poverty and English Language Learners performed significantly better at public charter schools (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Students enrolled at public charter schools in the poorest areas of the country are 6.5% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Students enrolled at public charter schools found in Hispanic areas across the country are 7.6% more likely to proficient in math and 4.2% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Charter schools in Minnesota, Missouri, and Louisiana found positive effects on black students’ achievement in reading and math. (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009)

Hispanic students at public charter school students in Missouri do better compared to their traditional school peers in both math and reading. In addition, Hispanic public charter school students do better in math in Arkansas, Colorado and Louisiana than their traditional public school peers (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Facts on Public Charters | Stand for Children



"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."

Dunce.

Obviously you missed the part of the study where they pointed out that 20% of existing charter schools should be closed for performing worse than public schools, PoliticalSpice. There was also no definitive evidence that they were "superior" to public schools which is the fallacy of your OP. The Stanford Study rebukes your positon.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Not only does my son get learned(old talk from 19th century Papa) at school, he gets it everyday from myself....

Hey....let's hope you un-learn 'em what he learned at government school.

 

[Disir]

They're doing the exact same thing!

Make your case. I'm willing to hear you out.

Does Common Core ring a bell?

Why does our government have an Education Department setting standards for schools all across the country? Where do the textbooks come from? The things kids learn are being controlled by the government, more specifically through the money they spend.

The purpose of a compare and contrast essay is to analyze the differences and/or the similarities of two distinct subjects. Once you pick two subjects that can be compared and contrasted in a meaningful way, then you can begin to formulate your thesis and work out the organization of your paper. If you want to write a thoughtful and convincing comparison and contrast essay, just follow these steps.


Pick two subjects that can be compared and contrasted in a meaningful way. The first step to writing a successful compare and contrast essay is to pick two subjects that are different enough to be contrasted, but similar enough to be compared. This means that the subjects aren't so different that you can't find a thing they have in common (such as oreos and kale) or that they shouldn't be so similar (like two very similar soft drinks) that you don't have much to say about their differences. Here are some topics to consider as you pick your two subjects:[1]

The careers of two different athletes
The quality of two different restaurants
Two movies
Two novels
Two weight-loss programs
Two cities
Two historical periods
Two events

Do your research to make a list of all of the ways the two subjects are similar and different. Once you've picked your two subjects, you'll need to do your research to figure out exactly how much they have in common and how different they really are. Make a Venn Diagram of the two subjects and write the similarities in the part of the intersecting circles, while writing the differences in the parts of each subject's circle that does not intersect with other. This will require you to consult your sources, brainstorm, and analyze the two subjects on a deeper level.
4 Ways to Write a Compare and Contrast Essay - wikiHow

You have failed to show the comparison. I find that when we disagree it is over what you are comparing or not.

Where is the comparison between Wal-Mart dumping money and failing to pay their workers which rely on state aid and Common Core? Thank you in advance.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh boy, yet another PoliticalSpice thread based upon a complete fallacy.

There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools.

"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



Showing you to be.....'challenged' mentally ...has been done with metronomic regularity...and continuing same is akin to beating a dead horse....

...but it is my guilty pleasure....so:




Public charter schools shrink achievement gaps for minority and low-income students in urban schools.

Public charter middle schools in Boston cut the black-white achievement gap in math by as much as half in a single year. Significant increases in student achievement also happen in English and math at both the middle school and high school level. (The Boston Foundation, 2009; Harvard University, 2011).

Public charter schools were more effective for lower income and lower achieving students than for higher income and higher achieving students. In addition, charter schools in large urban areas had positive impacts on student achievement in math. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

Black and Hispanic students who attended charter schools in NYC for eight years closed the achievement gap with affluent suburbs like Scarsdale by 86% in math and 66% in English. (National Bureau of Economic Research, 2009).


The CREDO study by Stanford University found that students in poverty and English Language Learners performed significantly better at public charter schools (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Students enrolled at public charter schools in the poorest areas of the country are 6.5% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Students enrolled at public charter schools found in Hispanic areas across the country are 7.6% more likely to proficient in math and 4.2% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Charter schools in Minnesota, Missouri, and Louisiana found positive effects on black students’ achievement in reading and math. (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009)

Hispanic students at public charter school students in Missouri do better compared to their traditional school peers in both math and reading. In addition, Hispanic public charter school students do better in math in Arkansas, Colorado and Louisiana than their traditional public school peers (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Facts on Public Charters | Stand for Children



"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."

Dunce.

Obviously you missed the part of the study where they pointed out that 20% of existing charter schools should be closed for performing worse than public schools, PoliticalSpice. There was also no definitive evidence that they were "superior" to public schools which is the fallacy of your OP. The Stanford Study rebukes your positon.

"The Stanford Study rebukes your positon (sic)."



Really?



More:

Studies of the most successful charter school organizations have found they are particularly effective at closing achievement gaps.

Academic gains at many Knowledge Is Power Program (KIPP) charter schools are large enough to substantially reduce race-based and income-based achievement gaps. In three years, one half of all KIPP schools in the study closed at least 50% of the black-white achievement gap in math, and a third of it in reading. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

A study of high-performing charter management organizations found they generated significant gains in reading and math with Hispanic students (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2011).

Public charter schools are reducing drop-out rates and increasing college enrollment rates.

In Chicago and Florida, charter high schools are having positive impacts, increasing the probability of graduating by 7 to 15 percentage points and increasing enrollment rates in college by 8 to 10 percentage points. (RAND Education, 2009).



Public charters are less costly and more effective than reducing class size.

The positive effect of going to an elementary charter school on math scores is more than four times greater than reducing class sizes by five students. (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2008).


Parents and students are more satisfied at public charter schools.

Public charter schools positively affect levels of student and parental satisfaction with their school. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).


A policy brief on public charter schools from the Washington Policy Center found:

Charter public schools are popular with parents; 365,000 students are on waiting lists to attend a charter public school.

Across the nation, over 1.7 million children now attend 5,453 charter public schools. This number increased by 9% in 2010 alone.

Well-run charter public schools perform significantly better than traditional public schools.
Charter public school students are no different in academic background and motivation than students attending traditional public schools.

Charter public schools in Massachusetts and elsewhere have closed the achievement gap between minority and white students.







"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



I love it when evidence is presented, and you continue to double down on stupidity.

Know what that shows?

That you're still a dunce.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"A study in New York City found that charter school students are outperforming district school students in both math and English assessments. For example, almost 81 percent of charter school students in the sixth through eighth grades scores at or better than the grade-level standards, while less than 62 percent of their district peers did so. Although this is just one example of charter school academic achievement, many studies reflect charter schools’ academic successes.

Additionally, charter schools have been more successful at closing racial achievement gaps than district schools have been. A meta analysis of four different studies showed that Black students in charter schools scored 4.5 percentage points better than their district peers in English and 2.6 percentage points better in math. Through a series of education reforms that return power to parents, including charter schools, Florida’s Hispanic students now outscore the assessment averages for all races in 28 states, and their Black students outscore the average in 8 states.

Research has shown that charter schools have a “ripple effect” on other schools. Pressure brought to bear on traditional schools causes them to do more and do it better."
Achievement

 

[Disir]

Columbus has 17 charter school failures in one year
Schools closing at alarming rate, costing taxpayers and disrupting the lives of hundreds of students

hat’s 17 charter schools in Columbus closed in one year, which records show is unprecedented.

“It shows the power of a couple of players with standards that are not up to par really affecting an overall market,” said Chad Aldis, a vice president at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, which sponsors 10 charter schools in Ohio, some in Columbus.

Nine of the 17 schools that closed in 2013 lasted only a few months this past fall. When they closed, more than 250 students had to find new schools. The state spent more than $1.6 million in taxpayer money to keep the nine schools open only from August through October or November.
http://www.dispatch.com//content/stories/local/2014/01/12/charter-failure.html

 

[Disir]

As the Philadelphia Inquirer reports:

The percentage of Pennsylvania charter schools that met academic benchmarks plummeted after the state Department of Education was forced to recalculate the performance rates.

Under a new and controversial method the department used last fall, 49 percent of 156 charter schools met benchmarks based on student tests scores in 2011-12.

The rate dropped to 28 percent after the department released a recalculation this week. In Philadelphia, the percentage of the 80 charter schools that met the standards declined from 54 percent to 29 percent.

None of the 12 cyber charter schools that provide online in-home instruction to students statewide met the benchmarks. Previously, one met the standard.
https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/01/25-8

 

[TemplarKormac]

Oh boy, yet another PoliticalSpice thread based upon a complete fallacy.

There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools.

Then you probably missed this study:

http://credo.stanford.edu/documents/NCSS%202013%20Final%20Draft.pdf

Stanford Study Says Charter School Children Outperform - Bloomberg

Did you read your own links?

As many as one in five charter schools should be closed because of poor academic performance, according to a November 2012 report from the National Association of Charter School Authorizers, which represents states, districts and universities that grant them permission to operate.

“Policy makers have to be willing to make the tough political call to say no to keeping a failing school open,” said Greg Richmond, president and chief executive officer of the National Association of Charter School Authorizers in Chicago. “There are still 1,000 schools that are worse than their counterparts. We need to recognize that fact and deal with it.”

Students from all backgrounds didn’t benefit equally from charter schools, the study found. Black students in poverty achieved above-average learning gains -- equivalent to 36 additional days of learning in math -- as did low-income Hispanic students. White students fared worse overall, while Asians did more poorly only in math.

To address concerns about differences in school populations, the Stanford study sought to compare the improvement in academic achievement of similar students, matching each pupil at a charter with a “virtual twin” at a regular school with similar state test scores while controlling for demographics.

Charters now serve about 4 percent of the nation’s public school pupils, with more than 2.3 million students in over 6,000 schools in 41 states, according to the study. Enrollment has surged 80 percent since the 2009 report.

Given that only 4% of children are educated in 6,000 charter schools and 20% of those should be shut down for failing to provide an education on a par with public schools is not exactly proof of what PoliticalSpice is alleging. If anything it proves that she is basing this thread upon a fallacy.

I do read my own links. You're cherry picking them. If 1 in 5 were closed, while 4 out of 5 weren't, this comes out an 80-85% success rate. The 15-20% that were closed weren't necessarily closed for poor academic performance, reasons include lack of funding, mismanagement, lack of adequate facilities, or obstacles in the desired district. To say it was purely because of academic performance is false, and a blatant lie.

One other thing you missed, in bolded red.

 

[The T]

"A study in New York City found that charter school students are outperforming district school students in both math and English assessments. For example, almost 81 percent of charter school students in the sixth through eighth grades scores at or better than the grade-level standards, while less than 62 percent of their district peers did so. Although this is just one example of charter school academic achievement, many studies reflect charter schools’ academic successes.

Additionally, charter schools have been more successful at closing racial achievement gaps than district schools have been. A meta analysis of four different studies showed that Black students in charter schools scored 4.5 percentage points better than their district peers in English and 2.6 percentage points better in math. Through a series of education reforms that return power to parents, including charter schools, Florida’s Hispanic students now outscore the assessment averages for all races in 28 states, and their Black students outscore the average in 8 states.

Research has shown that charter schools have a “ripple effect” on other schools. Pressure brought to bear on traditional schools causes them to do more and do it better."
Achievement

And if I remember correctly? They closed down those schools.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Make your case. I'm willing to hear you out.

Does Common Core ring a bell?

Why does our government have an Education Department setting standards for schools all across the country? Where do the textbooks come from? The things kids learn are being controlled by the government, more specifically through the money they spend.

The purpose of a compare and contrast essay is to analyze the differences and/or the similarities of two distinct subjects. Once you pick two subjects that can be compared and contrasted in a meaningful way, then you can begin to formulate your thesis and work out the organization of your paper. If you want to write a thoughtful and convincing comparison and contrast essay, just follow these steps.


Pick two subjects that can be compared and contrasted in a meaningful way. The first step to writing a successful compare and contrast essay is to pick two subjects that are different enough to be contrasted, but similar enough to be compared. This means that the subjects aren't so different that you can't find a thing they have in common (such as oreos and kale) or that they shouldn't be so similar (like two very similar soft drinks) that you don't have much to say about their differences. Here are some topics to consider as you pick your two subjects:[1]

The careers of two different athletes
The quality of two different restaurants
Two movies
Two novels
Two weight-loss programs
Two cities
Two historical periods
Two events

Do your research to make a list of all of the ways the two subjects are similar and different. Once you've picked your two subjects, you'll need to do your research to figure out exactly how much they have in common and how different they really are. Make a Venn Diagram of the two subjects and write the similarities in the part of the intersecting circles, while writing the differences in the parts of each subject's circle that does not intersect with other. This will require you to consult your sources, brainstorm, and analyze the two subjects on a deeper level.
4 Ways to Write a Compare and Contrast Essay - wikiHow

You have failed to show the comparison. I find that when we disagree it is over what you are comparing or not.

Where is the comparison between Wal-Mart dumping money and failing to pay their workers which rely on state aid and Common Core? Thank you in advance.

You asked how government influences Public schools, I gave you an answer. Since you didn't like the answer, you deflected and began lecturing me about comparative essay writing. Honey, when I was in 5th grade I had a reading, spelling, and writing level comparable to an 8th grader's. In 11th Grade, I was writing essays that were comparable to undergraduates, if not better. You have no clue who you're talking to. Your writing lecture is a strawman.

So, Government dumps money into public schools, just the same as Wal-Mart does to charter schools. It's saddening you can't discern that they are doing the same thing. You conveniently ignore that fact. Common Core is the amalgamation of government money dictating the educational processes that occur within the classroom. So, who is it not doing their research, milady?

You have failed to make a factual argument, instead employing a scurrilous ad hominem argument in place of it. This debate is over.

 

[Derideo_Te]

"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



Showing you to be.....'challenged' mentally ...has been done with metronomic regularity...and continuing same is akin to beating a dead horse....

...but it is my guilty pleasure....so:




Public charter schools shrink achievement gaps for minority and low-income students in urban schools.

Public charter middle schools in Boston cut the black-white achievement gap in math by as much as half in a single year. Significant increases in student achievement also happen in English and math at both the middle school and high school level. (The Boston Foundation, 2009; Harvard University, 2011).

Public charter schools were more effective for lower income and lower achieving students than for higher income and higher achieving students. In addition, charter schools in large urban areas had positive impacts on student achievement in math. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

Black and Hispanic students who attended charter schools in NYC for eight years closed the achievement gap with affluent suburbs like Scarsdale by 86% in math and 66% in English. (National Bureau of Economic Research, 2009).


The CREDO study by Stanford University found that students in poverty and English Language Learners performed significantly better at public charter schools (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Students enrolled at public charter schools in the poorest areas of the country are 6.5% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Students enrolled at public charter schools found in Hispanic areas across the country are 7.6% more likely to proficient in math and 4.2% more likely to be proficient in reading than in their traditional school counterparts (Harvard University/National Bureau of Economic Research, 2004).

Charter schools in Minnesota, Missouri, and Louisiana found positive effects on black students’ achievement in reading and math. (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009)

Hispanic students at public charter school students in Missouri do better compared to their traditional school peers in both math and reading. In addition, Hispanic public charter school students do better in math in Arkansas, Colorado and Louisiana than their traditional public school peers (Stanford University/CREDO, 2009).

Facts on Public Charters | Stand for Children



"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."

Dunce.

Obviously you missed the part of the study where they pointed out that 20% of existing charter schools should be closed for performing worse than public schools, PoliticalSpice. There was also no definitive evidence that they were "superior" to public schools which is the fallacy of your OP. The Stanford Study rebukes your positon.

"The Stanford Study rebukes your positon (sic)."



Really?



More:

Studies of the most successful charter school organizations have found they are particularly effective at closing achievement gaps.

Academic gains at many Knowledge Is Power Program (KIPP) charter schools are large enough to substantially reduce race-based and income-based achievement gaps. In three years, one half of all KIPP schools in the study closed at least 50% of the black-white achievement gap in math, and a third of it in reading. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

A study of high-performing charter management organizations found they generated significant gains in reading and math with Hispanic students (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2011).

Public charter schools are reducing drop-out rates and increasing college enrollment rates.

In Chicago and Florida, charter high schools are having positive impacts, increasing the probability of graduating by 7 to 15 percentage points and increasing enrollment rates in college by 8 to 10 percentage points. (RAND Education, 2009).



Public charters are less costly and more effective than reducing class size.

The positive effect of going to an elementary charter school on math scores is more than four times greater than reducing class sizes by five students. (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2008).


Parents and students are more satisfied at public charter schools.

Public charter schools positively affect levels of student and parental satisfaction with their school. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).


A policy brief on public charter schools from the Washington Policy Center found:

Charter public schools are popular with parents; 365,000 students are on waiting lists to attend a charter public school.

Across the nation, over 1.7 million children now attend 5,453 charter public schools. This number increased by 9% in 2010 alone.

Well-run charter public schools perform significantly better than traditional public schools.
Charter public school students are no different in academic background and motivation than students attending traditional public schools.

Charter public schools in Massachusetts and elsewhere have closed the achievement gap between minority and white students.







"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



I love it when evidence is presented, and you continue to double down on stupidity.

Know what that shows?

That you're still a dunce.

Once again all that PoliticalSpice produces are quotes taken out of context without a single link to a credible source.

 

[NYcarbineer]

jobs like Walmart were meant to be temporary; and workers would better themselves and go on to better jobs

but in a weak world of Progressive failure; where record food stamps and welfare are actually re-branded as "forward progress' there arent any better jobs.

who would stay at Walmart if better jobs were available?

libs are losers who lie to themselves

So Walmart's business model only works if they can hire losers who don't deserve anything better than to be the working poor?

 

[buckeye45_73]

So your point is that these people's stupendous wealth is a boon to mankind?

So noted.

No, silly.....my point is that anyone who supports the Liberal perspective is a dunce.


And, the OP so indicates.

Two days ago the internet was flooded with articles on how the GOP intends to use privatization of education as it's platform. Now, we see a plethora of nonthinking right wing posts that are in support of Wal-Mart. Note that Wal-Mart employees are reliant on state aid to survive because Wal-Mart refuses to pay them. We subsidize them. Understand?

Yet, you think they are totally awesome because they drop lot o' cash in this industry.

You call this success. You, obviously, have not thought this through.

i love this, so what are you supposed to be paid to checkout someone?

i know a fee people paid well by walmart

and do you have a link to our subsidising walmart employees.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Obviously you missed the part of the study where they pointed out that 20% of existing charter schools should be closed for performing worse than public schools, PoliticalSpice. There was also no definitive evidence that they were "superior" to public schools which is the fallacy of your OP. The Stanford Study rebukes your positon.

"The Stanford Study rebukes your positon (sic)."



Really?



More:

Studies of the most successful charter school organizations have found they are particularly effective at closing achievement gaps.

Academic gains at many Knowledge Is Power Program (KIPP) charter schools are large enough to substantially reduce race-based and income-based achievement gaps. In three years, one half of all KIPP schools in the study closed at least 50% of the black-white achievement gap in math, and a third of it in reading. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).

A study of high-performing charter management organizations found they generated significant gains in reading and math with Hispanic students (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2011).

Public charter schools are reducing drop-out rates and increasing college enrollment rates.

In Chicago and Florida, charter high schools are having positive impacts, increasing the probability of graduating by 7 to 15 percentage points and increasing enrollment rates in college by 8 to 10 percentage points. (RAND Education, 2009).



Public charters are less costly and more effective than reducing class size.

The positive effect of going to an elementary charter school on math scores is more than four times greater than reducing class sizes by five students. (Center for Reinventing Public Education/University of Washington, 2008).


Parents and students are more satisfied at public charter schools.

Public charter schools positively affect levels of student and parental satisfaction with their school. (Mathematica Policy Research, 2010).


A policy brief on public charter schools from the Washington Policy Center found:

Charter public schools are popular with parents; 365,000 students are on waiting lists to attend a charter public school.

Across the nation, over 1.7 million children now attend 5,453 charter public schools. This number increased by 9% in 2010 alone.

Well-run charter public schools perform significantly better than traditional public schools.
Charter public school students are no different in academic background and motivation than students attending traditional public schools.

Charter public schools in Massachusetts and elsewhere have closed the achievement gap between minority and white students.







"There is zero credible evidence that charter schools produce better results than public schools."



I love it when evidence is presented, and you continue to double down on stupidity.

Know what that shows?

That you're still a dunce.

Once again all that PoliticalSpice produces are quotes taken out of context without a single link to a credible source.

No, I don't think you get to dictate what is "credible." All of these studies more likely than not are peer reviewed. PC cited those studies, and you accuse her of taking them out of context. Be our guest and explain precisely what was taken out of context.

 

[TemplarKormac]

jobs like Walmart were meant to be temporary; and workers would better themselves and go on to better jobs

but in a weak world of Progressive failure; where record food stamps and welfare are actually re-branded as "forward progress' there arent any better jobs.

who would stay at Walmart if better jobs were available?

libs are losers who lie to themselves

So Walmart's business model only works if they can hire losers who don't deserve anything better than to be the working poor?

You're serious right? Apparently Wal-Mart's business model works. I detect an element of fear on your part, Wal-Mart is successful. You see inequality in success. And that is your argument in a nutshell.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Do you get paid by the entire post or by the word?

It is wholly confounding to me that you would simply dismiss the OP because it's too long. Seriously, try reading it. Or, are you too averse to reading long posts? When making a point, brevity isn't always the best thing.

The old proverb that I made up is,

If you're going to be wrong, at least be brief.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Oh, Huffington Post even says you're wrong.

Charter Schools Rarely Closed For Academic Performance: Report

Case closed.

 

[buckeye45_73]

jobs like Walmart were meant to be temporary; and workers would better themselves and go on to better jobs

but in a weak world of Progressive failure; where record food stamps and welfare are actually re-branded as "forward progress' there arent any better jobs.

who would stay at Walmart if better jobs were available?

libs are losers who lie to themselves

So Walmart's business model only works if they can hire losers who don't deserve anything better than to be the working poor?

you start a grocery store and pay cahiers$100 an hour, let me know how that works.