It most certainly was the issue.
No, that was not the "issue," that was the straw man you created.
You were the one that said rape is a "grey" area.
That is NOT what I said, you are quite dishonest.
I said that the interaction between men and women, the line between no and yes is often a grey area, I went on to demonstrate the point with dialogue.
It's not grey at all. If she said no, it's rape. If she didn't say no, and later claims rape, she should be arrested for filing a false police report.
In your world, if she says "no" a week or a month later, it's rape. If he doesn't send flowers it's rape.
I find you irrational and dangerous, hostile to civil rights and any concept justice.
Luck had nothing to do with it.
Bullshit.
Luck was the only factor. BECAUSE the story got headlines, the boys were set free - though they still must wear a scarlet letter for life.
IF this had been low profile, they would be in prison - period. The accusation is the conviction in virtually all cases - only media coverage altered it this time.
The victim's story was inconsistent and upon investigation, proved to be false.
So what? That has no bearing on these cases. The allegation is a conviction. The subhuman male is guilty - not "presumed guilty," but irrefutably guilty unless the proof of innocence is so overwhelming that the press runs with it.
Are those men in prison? No.
ONLY because their witch trials got press coverage.
Have their lives been ruined because people believe them to be sex offenders?
Yes - they will forever be branded as rapists and wear the scarlet letter.
No, they have public sympathy because they were victims.
Bullshit.. The feminazis still want the Duke boys castrated.
Was the woman who falsely accused them arrested and charged? Yes, yes she was.
Not for the false charge, for an unrelated murder.
You are acting as if the vast majority of women who claim they were raped are lying,
No, I am stating the FACT that a man accused of "date rape" is guilty - regardless of proof of innocence. I saying that men have been stripped of all civil rights and that a date rape accusation is a conviction, the witch trial is a formality at best. Those accused WILL be lynched, regardless of evidence and fact.
when in fact rape is an under-reported crime, and a very small minority of rape claims are found to be false.
It is almost impossible for a rape claim to be considered false. Making the claim is proof of the guilt of the accused. It is more than enough proof for most courts.
Women in Salem circa 1684 had far more chance of acquittal and more rights than does a college boy accused of date rape. His crime is his gender, and for that he will be lynched.
Aww, poor little abused men.
How long have you hated men? Do you think they should be punished just because they are men?
Please list for me the cases involving a drunk woman who agreed to sex, then cried rape afterward which resulted in the man being lynched. After all, according to you it happens every damned day. Prove it, or STFU.
Come off it, don't play dumb;
{Half of all Rape Charges May Be False
Rape is a terrible crime. It should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But false rape charges are a troublesome reality. At least 10 percent and perhaps as many as 40 percent of all rape charges are lies. Research results In the Midwest:
· 41% of the total rape cases were recanted by the alleged victim during a 9-year study in a metropolitan Midwestern town.
·45 of the 109 complainants admitted that no rape had occurred in period.
The incidence figure (from 1978 to 1987) of false rape varied from year to year and ranged from a low of ·27% to a high of 70%
The alleged rape victims admitted that they had made the false rape charges for three reasons:
· to create an alibi,
· to get revenge,
· to get attention or sympathy.
Educated women lie, too....
· University women were as likely to file a false rape charge as a valid charge. Other reports from university police agencies support these findings (Jay, 1991). Source: Eugene J. Kanin, Ph.D., Department of Sociology and Anthropology, Purdue University,
www.anandaanswers.com/pages/naa
Why women make false rape charges
· Common reasons given by women who falsely accused rape were "spite or revenge," and to compensate for feelings of guilt or shame. Source: (Forensic Science Digest, vol. 11. no. 4, December 1985).
· · False accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or a desire for revenge in the study byEugene J. Kanin. Source: Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994). Kanin was once well known and lauded by the feminist movement for his groundbreaking research on male sexual aggression.
· · The need for attention: as in the case of the Detroit woman who gave police details about her rapist and his truck, then admitted she had lied: it never happened. Source: Detroit Free Press, April 21, 2004
http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/hoax21e_20050421.htmCriminal D.A. Affirms False Rape Charges
A female defense attorney saw it happen
"Not too long ago, I represented an Ivy League honor student who'd spent a weekend at a beach party coupled with a woman to whom he was introduced by a mutual friend. According to the client - and about a dozen witnesses - the two seemed to really "hit it off." When the party ended on Sunday night, they said their good-byes, like everybody else, and maybe even promised half-heartedly to call each other. "Imagine my client's surprise when on Tuesday, he received an angry call from his paramour's estranged boyfriend - a boyfriend whose existence she failed to disclose when the pair were kissing beyond the crackle of a bonfire. "Of course, this was nothing compared to his total shock when, two weeks later, he received a warrant in the mail commanding his appearance in court on felony rape charges." --Defense Attorney Jonna Spilbor Source:
FindLaw's Writ - Spilbor: What If Kobe Bryant Has Been Falsely Accused? }
have three sons, asshole, and I care about them all.
Yeah, if they go to college, they are guilty of rape - all that is missing for them to go to prison is the charge.
Isn't there some kind of rule here about bringing a person's family in as a means of attack?
I didn't bring your family into it - try again.
I told them "no means no"... and guess what? None of them ever was accused of rape.
Good, they didn't fall into the 2% of college men who are guilty by being accused.
Did she say stop and he didn't?
No.
Have you no reading comprehension?
Of course, there is no grey area, no negotiation, no begging - he is fiend who belongs in prison.
His guilt is his crime.
If she didn't say stop, not rape.
Umm, she THOUGHT no, so prison for him.
Simple. If it wasn't rape and she accuses him anyway, she should be arrested and charged, but the reality is that a huge percentage of rape accusations never reach the arrest stage because it's "he said, she said" and there is rarely enough evidence.
The accusation is more than enough proof.
The majority of these situations go nowhere, even if a legitimate rape took place. You dispute that? Prove it.
Already did.
Your misogyny and self-pity is noted.
Misogyny?
Failure to declare that all men are rapists is misogyny, thus saith the feminazis...
At what age do you believe females should be returned to their rightful role as chattel?
As I figured, you see this as revenge for past wrongs.
Retired...just saying 
