Zone1 Sharia in Action

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Your point?

My point is the same point I made about 8 posts ago. AI is great at analyzing large amounts of data quickly to find patterns within the data. My broader point is that you have overridden the bible's bias of a merciful and loving God with your bias of a cruel and punitive God. You can't be objective about this because you reject what the bible says and cherry pick the bible to confirm your bias.

How about the plague from David's census? Not very merciful to the 70,000 innocents. The Bible notes this as a "hard question" (2 Samuel 24:17), which David himself asked, noting that he, not the people, had sinned.

A narrative crafted around not trusting God. The lesson was to teach to trusting God and being accountable.

The historical events were the census - which were never recorded in the permanent state records of King David - and a plague. of pestilence - a naturally occurring event.

God didn't send a plague. What's more, you yourself do not believe God sent a plague. Did they actually believe God sent the plague? I don't know. What I do know is that the lesson wasn't that God is cruel. The lesson is God is just and merciful as evidenced by verse 16 and that being accountable is a successful behavior as evidenced by verse 17.

Another of your inventions, I don't recall ever saying any such thing since it is obviously untrue.

I know no such thing. You're arguing against God being merciful. You are arguing God is cruel and punitive. Don't run from it. Lean into it.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

They vow to take over the West.
Godless liberals support them over America.
This is your future if you support the invasion

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Christian Nationalists IN Action

They vow to take over the USA
Phony Christian Conservatives support them over the constitution
This is your future if you support their hatred of our Secular Constitutional Republic

Christian nationalists in the U.S. are individuals who believe the country was founded as a Christian nation and that its laws and identity should be based on Christian values.

Key Affiliated Organizations and Ideological Leaders

• Family Research Council: Led by Tony Perkins, which pushes for "family values" legislation based on Christian principles.
• New Apostolic Reformation (NAR): A network of charismatic leaders, including figures like Dutch Sheets, who believe in reclaiming government for Christians.
• Patriot Mobile: A Christian wireless provider that has actively worked to take over local school boards in Texas

 

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Christian Nationalists IN Action

They vow to take over the USA
Phony Christian Conservatives support them over the constitution
This is your future if you support their hatred of our Secular Constitutional Republic

Christian nationalists in the U.S. are individuals who believe the country was founded as a Christian nation and that its laws and identity should be based on Christian values.

Key Affiliated Organizations and Ideological Leaders

• Family Research Council: Led by Tony Perkins, which pushes for "family values" legislation based on Christian principles.
• New Apostolic Reformation (NAR): A network of charismatic leaders, including figures like Dutch Sheets, who believe in reclaiming government for Christians.
• Patriot Mobile: A Christian wireless provider that has actively worked to take over local school boards in Texas

Whose ideology heavily overlaps with Christian Zionists - who want a holy war in the Middle East - and often function as interconnected, mutually reinforcing movements in American politics.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I'm not a Muslim but I grew up in a house that believed women are worth less than men. Not at all uncommon as I recall and still reflected in our society today.

How sad. I did not realize that you grew up in a family where your mother and sisters were chattel.

It must seem normal to you.

 

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I grew up in a house that believed women are worth less than men. Not at all uncommon as I recall and still reflected in our society today.

Was that actually spoken out loud? Or is that you inferring it. I say that because from my experience they had different roles and duties that may have led you to believe women were second class citizens.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Whose ideology heavily overlaps with Christian Zionists - who want a holy war in the Middle East - and often function as interconnected, mutually reinforcing movements in American politics.

Is that a question or a statement? In either case it appears that the hypocrisy of the OK is lost on you

Christian Nationalists want a holy war right here at home

The Seven Mountains Mandate (or 7M) is a strategy within the Christian nationalist movement that calls for Christians to gain influence or "take dominion" over seven specific spheres of society. Adherents believe that by controlling these "mountains," they can transform culture and usher in the kingdom of God on Earth.

The seven pillars (mountains) of influence are:

• Government: Includes the military and law-making bodies.
• Education: Focusing on schools and universities.
• Media: Including news outlets and social media.
• Business: Economy, finance, and technology.
• Religion: The church and spiritual life.
• Family: The foundational unit of society.
• Arts and Entertainment: Including sports and celebrity cultur

 

[The Duke]

Islam - like Judaism - is about rule keeping. Christianity is about loving God for who God is, not because of what God can do for us or to us.

People like to argue - incorrectly I might add - that Christianity is based upon fear. It's not. Christianity is based upon love. Judaism and Islam are based upon fear (i.e. rule keeping).

Islam is based on a warped view of sex. Idk if there even is sex in the afterlife.
It reads about like about what goat rapists would think.
They can't let children be children, that's wrong. That's millstone and boat ride time.
But remember, God said it would be better for them if that happened.
God has ways of getting people, and his way is always better than any man's.
That's a rule of this earth I learned the hard way. I know how that goes.
It truly is better to let go and let God after a certain point.

 

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Is that a question or a statement?

It's a statement.

In either case it appears that the hypocrisy of the OK is lost on you

You are a hammer looking for a nail.

Christian Nationalists want a holy war right here at home

You should fear the holy war in the middle east more. That's how WWIII will start. Not because of religion but because of oil. The Jews are using the Christian Zionists and the Christian Zionists are using the Jews. They are both laughing at each other behind their back. It remains to be seen who will have the last laugh.

 

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Islam is based on a warped view of sex. Idk if there even is sex in the afterlife.
It reads about like about what goat rapists would think.
They can't let children be children, that's wrong. That's millstone and boat ride time.
But remember, God said it would be better for them if that happened.
God has ways of getting people, and his way is always better than any man's.
That's a rule of this earth I learned the hard way. I know how that goes.
It truly is better to let go and let God after a certain point.

I'm learning how to trust God. It's not easy.

 

[The Duke]

I'm learning how to trust God. It's not easy.

Vengeance is mine saith The Lord.
He do it better, he does.

 

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Vengeance is mine saith The Lord.
He do it better, he does.

Be careful or alang1216 will misinterpret that.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It's a statement.

You are a hammer looking for a nail.

You should fear the holy war in the middle east more. That's how WWIII will start. Not because of religion but because of oil. The Jews are using the Christian Zionists and the Christian Zionists are using the Jews. They are both laughing at each other behind their back. It remains to be seen who will have the last laugh.

You are still avoiding the issue that is the premise of this thread.......that we need to fear Islam's influence in the west . I see far more evidence that the radical evangelicals are trying to hijack our secular constitutional republic and establish a theocracy here in the USA.

As far as the middle east goes, WW 3 has already started thanks to Trumps penchant for war over diplomacy. It's about many things , oil included but also religion , culture, and territory niot to mention aragnance, stupidity and primitive tribal rivalries

 

[alang1216]

My point is the same point I made about 8 posts ago. AI is great at analyzing large amounts of data quickly to find patterns within the data. My broader point is that you have overridden the bible's bias of a merciful and loving God with your bias of a cruel and punitive God. You can't be objective about this because you reject what the bible says and cherry pick the bible to confirm your bias.

The bible say God sent a plague. You can't be objective about this because you reject what the bible says and cherry pick the bible to confirm your bias.

A narrative crafted around not trusting God. The lesson was to teach to trusting God and being accountable.

The historical events were the census - which were never recorded in the permanent state records of King David - and a plague. of pestilence - a naturally occurring event.

God didn't send a plague. What's more, you yourself do not believe God sent a plague. Did they actually believe God sent the plague? I don't know. What I do know is that the lesson wasn't that God is cruel. The lesson is God is just and merciful as evidenced by verse 16 and that being accountable is a successful behavior as evidenced by verse 17.
I know no such thing. You're arguing against God being merciful. You are arguing God is cruel and punitive. Don't run from it. Lean into it.

Man created God in his own image so God is both merciful and cruel. You can choose to ignore one or the other but they are both there.

 

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You are still avoiding the issue that is the premise of this thread.......that we need to fear Islam's influence in the west . I see far more evidence that the radical evangelicals are trying to hijack our secular constitutional republic and establish a theocracy here in the USA.

What do you propose we do?

As far as the middle east goes, WW 3 has already started

Maybe. I hope not.

thanks to Trumps penchant for war over diplomacy. It's about many things , oil included but also religion , culture, and territory niot to mention aragnance, stupidity and primitive tribal rivalries

It's different reasons for different people/groups. What have you done to prepare for what is coming?

 

[alang1216]

How sad. I did not realize that you grew up in a family where your mother and sisters were chattel.

It must seem normal to you.

Not chattel but definitely second class. It was the norm in many societies. In ours women waited for a long time to get to vote.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Not chattel but definitely second class. It was the norm in many societies. In ours women waited for a long time to get to vote.

Your mother could not vote?

Where the hell did you grow up, anyway?

 

[alang1216]

Was that actually spoken out loud? Or is that you inferring it. I say that because from my experience they had different roles and duties that may have led you to believe women were second class citizens.

I don't recall anyone in my family ever complaining that women were paid less than men or were generally restricted in their professions: girls were encouraged to become nurses, boys were encouraged to become doctors, etc.

 

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The bible say God sent a plague. You can't be objective about this because you reject what the bible says and cherry pick the bible to confirm your bias.

I literally just explained it for you. A narrative crafted around not trusting God. The lesson was to teach to trusting God and being accountable. The historical events were the census - which were never recorded in the permanent state records of King David - and a plague. of pestilence - a naturally occurring event.

I'm not rejecting it. I'm understanding it. Ancient Israelites crafted narratives of historical events to teach lessons about the covenant and moral lessons.

Why don't you tell me how you believe that account came to be. Can you do that?

Man created God in his own image so God is both merciful and cruel. You can choose to ignore one or the other but they are both there.

Good thing creation is my basis for believing in the existence of moralistic and providential creator. I'm guessing that the Israelites did the same thing.

 

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I don't recall anyone in my family ever complaining that women were paid less than men or were generally restricted in their professions: girls were encouraged to become nurses, boys were encouraged to become doctors, etc.

Ok, so what is the basis for saying, "I grew up in a house that believed women are worth less than men?"

 

[alang1216]

Ancient Israelites crafted narratives of historical events to teach lessons about the covenant and moral lessons.

Who started this conspiracy to take historical events and build a theology around them?

Good thing creation is my basis for believing in the existence of moralistic and providential creator. I'm guessing that the Israelites did the same thing.

The Book of Ding.