Paul Essien
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DGS49
I believe that "white people," whom I describe as Caucasians whose ancestry came from Great Britain and northern Europe, were and are responsible for the bulk of what makes this country great.
How can that be when it was black people who built this country ?
DGS49
The science and technology, art, music, architecture, literature, philosophy (political, economic, moral, religious), our civil and criminal justice systems, and just as important, the "middle class work ethic." Certainly there have been significant contributions by others - more so in recent years - but most of what makes America great is the work product of white people, mainly white men.
99.99% of white people have invented nothing.
It is pretty widely acknowledged that virtually no basic technologies were strictly speaking invented in Europe or the United States. Instead, European societies aggregated technologies. Metalwork, the plow, hydrocarbon fuels, higher mathematics, paper, wind-powered sea navigation, the compass, gun powder, and steam engines all came from elsewhere. In terms of the crucial agricultural products that feed everyone in the modern world, too, none originated in Europe.
So western contributions are not because white people are so much smarter than everyone else but because progress in science and invention is built on what has gone before.
The more science you know the more science you can discover.The more inventions you have at hand. The more new inventions you can come up with. That is why the progress is exponential. It comes from the nature of science and technology, not from the nature of white intelligence.
You forget that you live at only one point in history, that other points in history were different. 700 years ago the Chinese could have ran around bragging how smart they were. After all whites would be nowhere without four Chinese inventions:
1) Gunpowder
2) The compass
3) Paper
4) The printing press.
Their rise to world power was built on these.
If our fates were written in our genes, then little in the world would change. Anglos would have been on top not only since the Battle of Waterloo in 1815 but for most of history. Instead for most of history they were backwards.
No one in his right mind in 1500 would have thought that some day English would become a world language, a respected language of learning, science and business. If you said that in 1500 people would have thought you had too much to drink.
DGS49
There is bad stuff as well, but no worse here than anyplace else in the world, and the good manifestly outweighs the bad.
The everyone does it argument.
DGS49
This belief doesn't cause me to honor any particular white men (or myself) because everyone is an individual,
DGS49
"white people," mainly men, are and have been responsible for most of the good stuff that makes America great.
I mean, if you can’t see the irony embedded in both of these remarks –after all, to say that you're not honoring white men in your 1st statement then honoring white men in your second statement is the epitome of self-contradiction – then you’re probably not prepared to enter a dialogue about much of anything.
I believe that "white people," whom I describe as Caucasians whose ancestry came from Great Britain and northern Europe, were and are responsible for the bulk of what makes this country great.
How can that be when it was black people who built this country ?
DGS49
The science and technology, art, music, architecture, literature, philosophy (political, economic, moral, religious), our civil and criminal justice systems, and just as important, the "middle class work ethic." Certainly there have been significant contributions by others - more so in recent years - but most of what makes America great is the work product of white people, mainly white men.
99.99% of white people have invented nothing.
It is pretty widely acknowledged that virtually no basic technologies were strictly speaking invented in Europe or the United States. Instead, European societies aggregated technologies. Metalwork, the plow, hydrocarbon fuels, higher mathematics, paper, wind-powered sea navigation, the compass, gun powder, and steam engines all came from elsewhere. In terms of the crucial agricultural products that feed everyone in the modern world, too, none originated in Europe.
So western contributions are not because white people are so much smarter than everyone else but because progress in science and invention is built on what has gone before.
The more science you know the more science you can discover.The more inventions you have at hand. The more new inventions you can come up with. That is why the progress is exponential. It comes from the nature of science and technology, not from the nature of white intelligence.
You forget that you live at only one point in history, that other points in history were different. 700 years ago the Chinese could have ran around bragging how smart they were. After all whites would be nowhere without four Chinese inventions:
1) Gunpowder
2) The compass
3) Paper
4) The printing press.
Their rise to world power was built on these.
If our fates were written in our genes, then little in the world would change. Anglos would have been on top not only since the Battle of Waterloo in 1815 but for most of history. Instead for most of history they were backwards.
No one in his right mind in 1500 would have thought that some day English would become a world language, a respected language of learning, science and business. If you said that in 1500 people would have thought you had too much to drink.
DGS49
There is bad stuff as well, but no worse here than anyplace else in the world, and the good manifestly outweighs the bad.
The everyone does it argument.
DGS49
This belief doesn't cause me to honor any particular white men (or myself) because everyone is an individual,
DGS49
"white people," mainly men, are and have been responsible for most of the good stuff that makes America great.
I mean, if you can’t see the irony embedded in both of these remarks –after all, to say that you're not honoring white men in your 1st statement then honoring white men in your second statement is the epitome of self-contradiction – then you’re probably not prepared to enter a dialogue about much of anything.
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