Serious questions for Trump supporters regarding this impeachment thing

[Wry Catcher]

Because there is no rule as to how long an impeachment trial is to last. Moscow Mitch presides, and he can give just half an hour to each side and have a sham trial.

You need 2/3rds, thus 66 or 67 Senators to find Trump guilty. At the present, if you have all the Democrats vote "guilty" and the one or two Republicans which have expressed doubts about Trump not being guilty, you'd have just a bit above 50.

So a long investigation uncovering more criminal activity is more important for building public opinion.

If you're wrong, and if the Chief Justice makes sure the Senate "trial" is above board, and if the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt, and if the Republican Senators vote to acquit Trump, then one of two thing will happen:

1. Trump, McConnell and the Republican Party will have destroyed our Founders Vision; or,
2. The People will be outraged, and the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

And if the Dems impeach, 62 million will accept that their vote were overturned? That will destroyour Founders Vision or The People will be outraged. The dems don't lose a lawfully elected president-the Trump supporters would.

I heard today that Piglosi made the statement that impeachment is so important, it would be worth losing the leadership of Congress for it.

So what do they know about Trump that it's so important to get rid of him? Hmmmmm........

"Piglosi"? Did you ever complete the Third Grade?

/----/ From the side that calls President Trump every name in the book.

The only thing I've called DJT is that he is an asshole. And, there is no room to debate he isn't. As for others, I don't have any control over them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If ALL Americans aren't polled, the poll is flawed-

Utter nonsense.

 

[Zorro!]

What about republicans that support trump? Why would they speak out against this?

Such as????

Ohio Rep Mike Turner... been a trump supporter but spoke the truth about this situation. What’s his motivation?

"I've read the complaint and I've read the transcript of the conversation with the president and the president of the Ukraine," Turner said. "Concerning that conversation, I want to say to the president: This is not OK. That conversation is not OK."

"I think it's disappointing to the American public when they read the transcript," he continued.

Okay, I looked him up, and he did say that. But what he also said is he's totally against impeachment. He went on further to call an impeachment an assault of the electorate.

So basically what he said is he didn't like Trump's wording, but doesn't find any impeachable act in Trump's comments.

Mmmmmh. Seems like the guy you are replying too left some very important things out of Turner's statement, ehhh? Kinda like the Fake News Media cutting 500 words out of the transcript when they report on it. That crap's not going to fly in a Senate trial. They either have High Crimes or they have a farce. They will not be able to fool the American People.

Haha haha that was the best statement I’ve read today!! You rag on me for leaving things out and then you talk about the “high crimes” for impeachment.... did you forget something?

High crimes and...

You really gotta look up what hypocrisy means

You don't even have misdemeanors. And if you think the nation is going to be pleased at being put through the spectacle of an impeachment, for anything less than clear and convincing evidence of High Crimes, well, giddy up!

 

[Zorro!]

I've been reading for a long time that Trump supporters want the impeachment proceedings to happen, and I'm seeing a lot of celebrating here, but I'm not quite sure why.

My guess is that you're thinking the Dems will make themselves look bad in the process, just in time for the next elections, would that be fair? (I can't disagree that politicians can make themselves look foolish, by the way, especially when they think they smell blood)

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

Serious questions.
.

You guys aren't fooling anyone. You have been trying to overturn the election since his victory was declared, we WANT the nation to understand you folks better, and this will result in a huge tune-in and when they see you are trying to impeach the President because you do not accept the decision of the US Electorate, it's clear who you are really attacking, The American People.

Trump tricked Not So Swift Schiff, by releasing the transcripts, the IG report and the Whistle Blower complaints, so fast, and redaction free, that hapless Democrats were still demanding their release after thy had already been released and Democrat claims about them fully debunked.

At first, some Democrats claimed that the transcript was faked. It wasn’t. Two CIA employees detailed to the White House made the transcription. Others claimed the ellipses in the transcript revealed hidden redactions. Actually, they simply signified a pause by the speaker. Interestingly, sometime between May 2018 and August of this year, the form for filing a whistleblower report was changed substantially with little if any notice. As of May 24, 2018 the relevant Form (IC IG ICWPA FORM 401) required the report involve “urgent concerns,” be about an “intelligence activity,” be “reliable first-hand knowledge” and not be “second-hand knowledge.” You think that sells as coincidence?

This complaint merely repeats second-hand knowledge. It is utterly false about the nature of the Trump-Zelensky conversation, and reflects, instead of wrongdoing by the President, that there are some in the bowels of the government who have policy differences with him and wish to wound him. That will become more and more undeniable.

The Ukraine call complaint against Trump is riddled not with evidence directly witnessed by the complainant, but with repeated references to what anonymous officials allegedly told the complainant: “I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials,” “officials have informed me,” “officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me,” “the White House officials who told me this information,” “I was told by White House officials,” “the officials I spoke with,” “I was told that a State Department official”

It's not First hand information, it's hearsay garbage.

The complainant also cites publicly available news articles as proof of many of the allegations.

“I was not a direct witness to most of the events” characterized in the document, the complainant confessed on the first page of his August 12 letter, which was addressed to Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) Hearsay is generally inadmissible as evidence in U.S. federal and state courts since it violates the constitutional requirement that the accused be given the opportunity to question his accusers.

While the complaint alleged that Trump demanded that Ukraine physically return multiple servers potentially related to ongoing investigations of foreign interference in the 2016 elections, the transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky shows that such a request was never made.

The complainant lies, claiming that Trump told Zelensky that he should keep the current prosecutor general at the time, Yuriy Lutsenko, in his current position in the country. The transcript showed that exchange also did not happen.

Additionally, the complaint falsely alleged that T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, a U.S. State Department official, was a party to the phone call between Trump and Zelensky.

In a legal opinion that was released to the public along with the phone call transcript, the Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) determined that the complainant’s submission was statutorily deficient and therefore was not required to be submitted to Congress. The White House nonetheless declassified and released the document to Congress late Wednesday evening.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/adam_schiffs_impeachment_fun_playhouse.html

"You guys"?

You're welcome to post any examples of my pushing any of the Russia or Ukraine accusations.

Looking forward to it, thanks.
.

Duly noted! Please accept my apologies!

 

[Denizen]

I've been reading for a long time that Trump supporters want the impeachment proceedings to happen, and I'm seeing a lot of celebrating here, but I'm not quite sure why.

My guess is that you're thinking the Dems will make themselves look bad in the process, just in time for the next elections, would that be fair? (I can't disagree that politicians can make themselves look foolish, by the way, especially when they think they smell blood)

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

Serious questions.
.

Donald Trump doesn't want his outermost layer of dirt scraped to expose the other layers of dirt underneath.

There is no doubt than any inquiry into Donald Trump will expose fresh dirt.

You mean like the last three or four times?

People are being accustomed to Trump's dirty conduct and past.

Even Trump's base believes he is dirty.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I've been reading for a long time that Trump supporters want the impeachment proceedings to happen, and I'm seeing a lot of celebrating here, but I'm not quite sure why.

My guess is that you're thinking the Dems will make themselves look bad in the process, just in time for the next elections, would that be fair? (I can't disagree that politicians can make themselves look foolish, by the way, especially when they think they smell blood)

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

Serious questions.
.

Because there is no rule as to how long an impeachment trial is to last. Moscow Mitch presides, and he can give just half an hour to each side and have a sham trial.

You need 2/3rds, thus 66 or 67 Senators to find Trump guilty. At the present, if you have all the Democrats vote "guilty" and the one or two Republicans which have expressed doubts about Trump not being guilty, you'd have just a bit above 50.

So a long investigation uncovering more criminal activity is more important for building public opinion.

If you're wrong, and if the Chief Justice makes sure the Senate "trial" is above board, and if the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt, and if the Republican Senators vote to acquit Trump, then one of two thing will happen:

1. Trump, McConnell and the Republican Party will have destroyed our Founders Vision; or,
2. The People will be outraged, and the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

Awwwwwww.......

A sore loser even before he loses.

 

[Rustic]

Your doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?

Yes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my way

According to socialists no individual deserves any money that they earned, deadbeats deserve other peoples money

Why are you talking about socialists?

Progressivism socialism same difference... A cancer on society

You obviously don’t understand the difference. Study up before you say things like that, you won’t sound as stupid

Lol
Only a fool think socialism is worth a shit

 

[Third Party]

If you're wrong, and if the Chief Justice makes sure the Senate "trial" is above board, and if the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt, and if the Republican Senators vote to acquit Trump, then one of two thing will happen:

1. Trump, McConnell and the Republican Party will have destroyed our Founders Vision; or,
2. The People will be outraged, and the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

And if the Dems impeach, 62 million will accept that their vote were overturned? That will destroyour Founders Vision or The People will be outraged. The dems don't lose a lawfully elected president-the Trump supporters would.

I heard today that Piglosi made the statement that impeachment is so important, it would be worth losing the leadership of Congress for it.

So what do they know about Trump that it's so important to get rid of him? Hmmmmm........

"Piglosi"? Did you ever complete the Third Grade?

/----/ From the side that calls President Trump every name in the book.

The only thing I've called DJT is that he is an asshole. And, there is no room to debate he isn't. As for others, I don't have any control over them.

Schiff is an asshole-that squares the account.

 

[dblack]

Your doing a good job. Lol I guess you hate your tax money.. do you even believe I have a right to money I earn?

Yes of course you have a right to money you earn and the gov has a right to tax it. Hopefully as little as possible if I could have things my way

According to socialists no individual deserves any money that they earned, deadbeats deserve other peoples money

Why are you talking about socialists?

Progressivism socialism same difference... A cancer on society

You obviously don’t understand the difference. Study up before you say things like that, you won’t sound as stupid

Tell us the difference. And try not to sound stupid.

 

[Third Party]

If ALL Americans aren't polled, the poll is flawed-

Utter nonsense.

Ok, lets just poll Republicans-we don't need more-it would be nonsense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If ALL Americans aren't polled, the poll is flawed-

Utter nonsense.

Ok, lets just poll Republicans-we don't need more-it would be nonsense.

That is a stupid response. Surely you understand why.

And...no offense...but you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Rustic]

Conservatives cannot survive a socialist society… And no one wants to live in a world of piss and shit like socialism provides

 

[Wry Catcher]

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

No, it is not possible, just the fact you asked this question proves you simply do not understand Trump. His base does and knows that he is the first honest president in at least a hundred years. He is over 70, knows he won't live forever and has made his life decision to be a force for good to try and right a country on the brink of ruin by communists. And so does his base. Get on the Trump train, or get run over, cause we're coming through.

 

[Third Party]

If ALL Americans aren't polled, the poll is flawed-

Utter nonsense.

Ok, lets just poll Republicans-we don't need more-it would be nonsense.

That is a stupid response. Surely you understand why.

And...no offense...but you have no clue what you are talking about.

No, YOU don't know what I'm talking about or you would not protest. The polls that are taken are extremely unreliable-witness 2016. My jest was not stupid-it was sarcastic-for future reference, I do that. Because of our silly arguing, I forgot the original issue. i just think polls are STUPID-not people.

 

[Manonthestreet]

"Resistance by Whistleblower" Was Part Of The Anti-Trump Plan From The Start
A conspiracy admitted inside intel and State Dept to get Trump no matter what......I see several orgs that need deep cleaning and downsizing.....budget cut ready

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, YOU don't know what I'm talking about or you would not protest.

Of course I do. You said something very stupid, in comparing a completely and intentionally biased sample to a random sample.

Furthermore, you obviously know less than nothing about statistics or statistical analysis. You dont know what sample size is appropriate, nor could you understand their methods, if your life depended on it.

These are facts, my man. It's not personal.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Resistance by Whistleblower" Was Part Of The Anti-Trump Plan From The Start
A conspiracy admitted inside intel and State Dept to get Trump no matter what......I see several orgs that need deep cleaning and downsizing.....budget cut ready

Now that is some peak trump cultism, right there.

 

[Manonthestreet]

"Resistance by Whistleblower" Was Part Of The Anti-Trump Plan From The Start
A conspiracy admitted inside intel and State Dept to get Trump no matter what......I see several orgs that need deep cleaning and downsizing.....budget cut ready

Now that is some peak trump cultism, right there.

Just the facts

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Resistance by Whistleblower" Was Part Of The Anti-Trump Plan From The Start
A conspiracy admitted inside intel and State Dept to get Trump no matter what......I see several orgs that need deep cleaning and downsizing.....budget cut ready

Now that is some peak trump cultism, right there.

Just the facts

And a heaping helping of trump cultism.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I've been reading for a long time that Trump supporters want the impeachment proceedings to happen, and I'm seeing a lot of celebrating here, but I'm not quite sure why.

My guess is that you're thinking the Dems will make themselves look bad in the process, just in time for the next elections, would that be fair? (I can't disagree that politicians can make themselves look foolish, by the way, especially when they think they smell blood)

Any other reasons? And isn't it possible that some negative or damaging news on Trump will come to light as well, which might hurt him in 2020?

Serious questions.
.

Because there is no rule as to how long an impeachment trial is to last. Moscow Mitch presides, and he can give just half an hour to each side and have a sham trial.

You need 2/3rds, thus 66 or 67 Senators to find Trump guilty. At the present, if you have all the Democrats vote "guilty" and the one or two Republicans which have expressed doubts about Trump not being guilty, you'd have just a bit above 50.

So a long investigation uncovering more criminal activity is more important for building public opinion.

If you're wrong, and if the Chief Justice makes sure the Senate "trial" is above board, and if the evidence is beyond a reasonable doubt, and if the Republican Senators vote to acquit Trump, then one of two thing will happen:

1. Trump, McConnell and the Republican Party will have destroyed our Founders Vision; or,
2. The People will be outraged, and the Republican Party will go the way of the Whigs.

Awwwwwww.......

A sore loser even before he loses.

Pragmatic; I am pragmatic.

A sore lose ain't so bad, a sore winner is an asshole.