Serious question...will Trump secure the election for Hillary (or Bern)

I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.
Why are you disgruntled?

I am not the topic, so why don't you just try to stick to the topic instead of worrying about me ok?
 
Girl, you're missing the point. It is not about caring about GWB. It is about Trump yelling LIAR! all over the place INCLUDING accusations, old accusations that have long ago been disproved. Trump is showing himself to be an unhinged bully who isn't getting his way so he lashes out at everybody.

Except no one has really "disproven" that Bush had lied.

In fact, polls show a majority of Americans really do think he lied about Iraq. Even bigger majorities agree now that Iraq was a HUGE mistake.

So if Jeb really wants to refight the Iraq War, "Bring it on" to coin a phrase.
Not disproven? You're either in denial or utterly ignorant of events occurring in your own lifetime, Buttercup. So are the "majority" of Americans that answer polls saying they think "he lied about Iraq". Now your Bush fixation is transferred to Jeb! who will only become the GOP candidate if absolutely everybody else drops out.
 
A lot of Trump bashers on here today. You guys don't seem to understand the game. It is about psychology not about politics. During the primaries he will continue to be the anti-establishment candidate by pointing out what is wrong and paint all the other candidates as establishment cronies who bear some responsibility for what is wrong. He won't give much substance so as to not give the others much meat to chew on.

Once he gets the nomination, he will be able to set the table against Hillary or Bernie and serve the right meal for the occasion. Neither one stands a chance once he starts rolling out the meat because while the other Republicans can serve a similar meal no Democrat can.

The angry righties are not going to vote for Hillary or Bernie no matter what so he just needs to pay homage to the left to draw voters away from Bernie should he beat Hillary. He just needs to be there with the meal to beat Hillary.

The man is a loudmouth but he is a brilliant loudmouth.


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Simmer down. Disagreeing with someone is not "bashing". Trump is good at playing games for sure. I just don't think his version of game playing is best for the country nor do I think enough people will continue to support him if he continues this childish LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE game.
 
Trump is not a politician, all of his remarks are not scripted and rehearsed. He speaks his mind and sometimes says dumb things. In other words, he is a real person, not a member of the political class that does nothing but spout lies and talking points and never actually does anything.

What scares the establishment political class is that American voters understand what the polished liars have done for years and are ready for a real person in the whitehouse.
 
The more Trump talks the more he sounds like a loon. He's calling GWB a liar and blaming him for 9/11 and for the war. He sounds like an unhinged lefty. It was unseemly enough to call Cruz a liar. Trump is out of control.

Yes, I think Trump has gone too far. What used to be refreshing outspokenness has morphed into ugly unfounded allegations. He might as well join Code Pink.

Will this help democrats? Well, I know one thing. Trumps behavior sure isn't helping the right.


people are as sick of the >>bush<< name as they are of the >>clinton<< name

in addition both left and right are sick of the run of the mill politician
 
A lot of Trump bashers on here today. You guys don't seem to understand the game. It is about psychology not about politics. During the primaries he will continue to be the anti-establishment candidate by pointing out what is wrong and paint all the other candidates as establishment cronies who bear some responsibility for what is wrong. He won't give much substance so as to not give the others much meat to chew on.

Once he gets the nomination, he will be able to set the table against Hillary or Bernie and serve the right meal for the occasion. Neither one stands a chance once he starts rolling out the meat because while the other Republicans can serve a similar meal no Democrat can.

The angry righties are not going to vote for Hillary or Bernie no matter what so he just needs to pay homage to the left to draw voters away from Bernie should he beat Hillary. He just needs to be there with the meal to beat Hillary.

The man is a loudmouth but he is a brilliant loudmouth.


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Simmer down. Disagreeing with someone is not "bashing". Trump is good at playing games for sure. I just don't think his version of game playing is best for the country nor do I think enough people will continue to support him if he continues this childish LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE game.


when someone lies, they should be called on it. We the people are tired of being lied to by the political class assholes.
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.
If people can overlook Trump's bizarre hair, surely they can overlook his trashy wife.
 
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A lot of Trump bashers on here today. You guys don't seem to understand the game. It is about psychology not about politics. During the primaries he will continue to be the anti-establishment candidate by pointing out what is wrong and paint all the other candidates as establishment cronies who bear some responsibility for what is wrong. He won't give much substance so as to not give the others much meat to chew on.

Once he gets the nomination, he will be able to set the table against Hillary or Bernie and serve the right meal for the occasion. Neither one stands a chance once he starts rolling out the meat because while the other Republicans can serve a similar meal no Democrat can.

The angry righties are not going to vote for Hillary or Bernie no matter what so he just needs to pay homage to the left to draw voters away from Bernie should he beat Hillary. He just needs to be there with the meal to beat Hillary.

The man is a loudmouth but he is a brilliant loudmouth.


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Simmer down. Disagreeing with someone is not "bashing". Trump is good at playing games for sure. I just don't think his version of game playing is best for the country nor do I think enough people will continue to support him if he continues this childish LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE game.


when someone lies, they should be called on it. We the people are tired of being lied to by the political class assholes.
No argument there. However, when you call out a liar you need to offer proof that he is indeed lying, otherwise you are nothing more than a child chanting playground taunts.
 
A lot of Trump bashers on here today. You guys don't seem to understand the game. It is about psychology not about politics. During the primaries he will continue to be the anti-establishment candidate by pointing out what is wrong and paint all the other candidates as establishment cronies who bear some responsibility for what is wrong. He won't give much substance so as to not give the others much meat to chew on.

Once he gets the nomination, he will be able to set the table against Hillary or Bernie and serve the right meal for the occasion. Neither one stands a chance once he starts rolling out the meat because while the other Republicans can serve a similar meal no Democrat can.

The angry righties are not going to vote for Hillary or Bernie no matter what so he just needs to pay homage to the left to draw voters away from Bernie should he beat Hillary. He just needs to be there with the meal to beat Hillary.

The man is a loudmouth but he is a brilliant loudmouth.


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Simmer down. Disagreeing with someone is not "bashing". Trump is good at playing games for sure. I just don't think his version of game playing is best for the country nor do I think enough people will continue to support him if he continues this childish LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE game.


when someone lies, they should be called on it. We the people are tired of being lied to by the political class assholes.
No argument there. However, when you call out a liar you need to offer proof that he is indeed lying, otherwise you are nothing more than a child chanting playground taunts.


Uhhh, yeah. just curious, do you think Bush lied about Saddam and WMDs?
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
 
Trump could beat Hillary. He could also lead the Republicans to an epic Goldwaterian type disaster. I'd bet on the latter, but the former isn't out of the question. He's a high-risk candidate.

Trump's strength is with blue collar workers, the Reagan Democrats, who form part of Hillary's base. He could eat into that, and if he brought in new voters, he might win.

However, he would almost certainly lose educated voters, and probably in the suburbs, perhaps badly. Trump being Trump, he's liable to do something so stupid, voters outside his base could overwhelmingly vote against him. He has the highest negatives of any Presidential candidate ever, and has by far the least cross-over appeal of all the Republican candidates. His support is a mile deep and a yard wide.

But the electorate might be so sick of Hillary and the Clintons, maybe they'd vote for him.

I actually think he might have a more difficult time beating Bernie. Bernie blunts some of Trump's appeal and anti-establishment feeling. Sanders is also genuine. Trump is a snake-oil salesman. Sanders is loopy, but he's honest, and the electorate may take to that.

Bernie loses the center.... the blue color whites you're talking about would overwhelmingly hold their noses and vote trump over Bernie, imo.
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
He fucked a lot of contractors and god knows who else. He's ruthless, I'll give you that.
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
He fucked a lot of contractors and god knows who else. He's ruthless, I'll give you that.


did he fuck some contractors any more then the admin did with investors and the American tax payer in the gm bailout --LOL
 
I don't have a problem with Trump because our country is already going down the tubes.
Everything seems fine on the outside, but, it's eggshell.....

People are visualists, they want not only a president that will make a difference but present well.
Trump's wife looks trashy. Not polished like other 1st wives.

I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
He fucked a lot of contractors and god knows who else. He's ruthless, I'll give you that.


did he fuck some contractors any more then the admin did with investors and the American tax payer in the gm bailout --LOL
I don't know, how is that relevant?
 
I could care less about first wives, but in Trumps case I think he is dangerous. He is too much of a hot head to be in charge of a military and weapon arsenal that could level another country. He doesn't even listen to his own advisors when he becomes a hot head and takes to twitter to throw little mantrums when he doesn't get his way. My comments also are no endorsement of any Dem nominee as I think Bernie is not a good fit to be president and Hillary is just a plain crook IMO.

I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
He fucked a lot of contractors and god knows who else. He's ruthless, I'll give you that.


did he fuck some contractors any more then the admin did with investors and the American tax payer in the gm bailout --LOL
I don't know, how is that relevant?


it is all relevant
 
I have many reasons for not supporting Trump, but you've identified the #1 reason for me. He doesn't have the temperament. I don't want that guy having his finger on the button.


and do you think an angry, old, corrupt, lying woman has the right temperament? Do you think an angry old socialist has the right temperament? Do you think a lifetime politician who has never lived in the real world has the right temperament?

Trump is responsible for decisions regarding billions of dollars and he has made the right decisions. Decision making is a skill, not a temperament.
He fucked a lot of contractors and god knows who else. He's ruthless, I'll give you that.


did he fuck some contractors any more then the admin did with investors and the American tax payer in the gm bailout --LOL
I don't know, how is that relevant?
Not when your point is he didn't screw people as much.


it is all relevant
 

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