Sequestration: Blame goes to GOP

[bigrebnc1775]

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

Woodward has been thoroughly discredited, unless you can show how July 27 came before July 25.

First YOU MUST show where he has been discredited.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS.

Not the selctive shit which the President is now threatening the People with.

Boehner's reference to a sequester is not the same thing as the President's proposed "sequester."

So now the "it all depends on what the meaning of is, is" is suddenly valid!!! How many times have I said that CON$ are always on both sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows???

October 11, 2011
RUSH: * I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate.* He who controls the language controls the debate.*

Wrong again. You're good at being wrong.

The original idea was to -- what?

Make cuts Draconian so that Congress would have no choice other than to engage in the required cutting. This is not the "across the board" cuts of which Boehner spoke.

And, now we find that the sequester that got passed -- meager shit, frankly -- seems to permit the President to pick and choose where to inflict the pain. And he is trying to make it painful. He is very transparent. And he'd get called on it, too, if the liberals like you and rdean were not the ones running the news media as a propaganda exercise for your favorite liberal Democrats.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Introduced in the Senate as "An original bill to make a technical amendment to the Education Sciences Reform Act of 2002" (S. 365) by Tom Harkin (D-IA) on February 16, 2011

Committee consideration by: Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Passed the Senate on February 17, 2011 (Unanimous consent)
Passed the House as the "Budget Control Act of 2011" on August 1, 2011 (269–161) with amendment
Senate agreed to House amendment on August 2, 2011 (74–26)
Signed into law by President Barack Obama on August 2, 2011​

The bill was the final chance in a series of proposals to resolve the 2011 United States debt-ceiling crisis, which featured bitter divisions between the parties and also pronounced splits within them. Earlier ideas included the Obama-Boehner $4 trillion "Grand Bargain",[13] the House Republican Cut, Cap and Balance Act, and the McConnell-Reid "Plan B" fallback. All eventually failed to gain enough general political or specific Congressional support to move into law, as the midnight August 2, 2011, deadline for an unprecedented U.S. sovereign default drew nearer and nearer.[14]

Ultimately, the solution came from White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling, who, on July 12, 2011, proposed a compulsory trigger that would go into effect if another agreement was not made on tax increases and/or budget cuts equal to or greater than the the debt ceiling increase by a future date. The intent was to secure the commitment of both sides to future negotiation by means of an enforcement mechanism that would be unpalatable to Republicans and Democrats alike. President Obama agreed to the plan. House Speaker John Boehner expressed reservations, but also agreed.[15]

On July 26, 2011, White House Budget Director Jack Lew and White House Legislative Affairs Director Rob Nabors met with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to discuss the plan. Reid, like Boehner several days before, was initially opposed to the idea, but was eventually convinced to go along with it, with the understanding that the sequester was intended as an enforcement tool rather than a true budget proposal. [16]

On the evening of July 31, 2011, Obama announced that the leaders of both parties in both chambers had reached an agreement that would reduce the deficit and avoid default.[6] The same day, Speaker of the House John Boehner's office outlined the agreement for House Republicans.[17] One key element in the deal being reached and the logjam being broken earlier that afternoon was U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's ability to negotiate with his 25-year Senate colleague, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.[18][19][20] Biden had spent the most time bargaining with Congress on the debt question of anyone in the administration, and McConnell had viewed him as the one most trustworthy.[18][19]

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Read more:
Budget Control Act of 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It looks like Democrats were behind the Sequester (Budget Control Act of 2011) that Barack Oblamer is now vehmently against unless he is give the opportunity to raise taxes again on the middle class.

Wow, talk about class warfare. Oblamer is certainly out to enslave Americans to the government. there are only two classes according to Oblamer the Poor and his Elitist class of Proggs.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Meanwhile, if there is incentive to find ambiguity in a term, it is the President who engages in that rhetorical device.

As things stand, "sequester" happens NOT to have a firm meaning within the context of the consequence of failing to meet goals of the budget act.

The gibberish we call the "law" in this case tells us, in part:

TITLE I--TEN-YEAR DISCRETIONARY CAPS WITH SEQUESTER

SEC. 101. ENFORCING DISCRETIONARY SPENDING LIMITS.

Section 251 of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act
of 1985 <<NOTE: 2 USC 901.>> is amended to read as follows:
``SEC. 251. ENFORCING DISCRETIONARY SPENDING LIMITS.

``(a) Enforcement.--
``(1) Sequestration.--Within <<NOTE: Deadline.>> 15 calendar
days after Congress adjourns to end a session there shall be a
sequestration to eliminate a budget-year breach, if any, within
any category.
``(2) Eliminating a breach.--Each non-exempt account within
a category shall be reduced by a dollar amount calculated by
multiplying the enacted level of sequestrable budgetary
resources in that account at that time by the uniform percentage
necessary to eliminate a breach within that category.
``(3) Military personnel.--If the President uses the
authority to exempt any personnel account from sequestration
under section 255(f), each account within subfunctional category
051 (other than those military personnel accounts for which the
authority provided under section 255(f) has been exercised)
shall be further reduced by a dollar amount calculated by
multiplying the enacted level of non-exempt budgetary resources
in that account at that time by the uniform percentage necessary
to offset the total dollar amount by which outlays are not
reduced in military personnel accounts by reason of the use of
such authority.
``(4) Part-year appropriations.--If, on the date specified
in paragraph (1), there is in effect an Act making or continuing
appropriations for part of a fiscal year for any budget account,
then the dollar sequestration calculated for that account under
paragraphs (2) and (3) shall be subtracted from--
``(A) the annualized amount otherwise available by
law in that account under that or a subsequent part-year
appropriation; and
``(B) when a full-year appropriation for that
account is enacted, from the amount otherwise provided
by the full-year appropriation for that account.
``(5) Look-back.--If, after June 30, an appropriation for
the fiscal year in progress is enacted that causes a breach
within a category for that year (after taking into account any
sequestration of amounts within that category), the
discretionary spending limits for that category for the next
fiscal year shall be reduced by the amount or amounts of that
breach.
``(6) Within-session sequestration.--
If <<NOTE: Deadline.>> an appropriation for a fiscal year in
progress is enacted (after Congress adjourns to end the session
for that budget year and before July 1 of that fiscal year) that
causes a breach within a category for that year (after taking
into account any prior sequestration of amounts within that
category), 15 days later there shall be a sequestration to
eliminate that breach within that category following the
procedures set forth in paragraphs (2) through (4).
``(7) Estimates.--

[[Page 125 STAT. 242]]

``(A) CBO estimates.--As soon as practicable after
Congress completes action on any discretionary
appropriation, CBO, after consultation with the
Committees on the Budget of the House of Representatives
and the Senate, shall provide OMB with an estimate of
the amount of discretionary new budget authority and
outlays for the current year, if any, and the budget
year provided by that legislation.
``(B) OMB estimates and explanation of
differences.--Not <<NOTE: Deadline. Reports.>> later
than 7 calendar days (excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and
legal holidays) after the date of enactment of any
discretionary appropriation, OMB shall transmit a report
to the House of Representatives and to the Senate
containing the CBO estimate of that legislation, an OMB
estimate of the amount of discretionary new budget
authority and outlays for the current year, if any, and
the budget year provided by that legislation, and an
explanation of any difference between the 2 estimates.
If <<NOTE: Consultation.>> during the preparation of the
report OMB determines that there is a significant
difference between OMB and CBO, OMB shall consult with
the Committees on the Budget of the House of
Representatives and the Senate regarding that difference
and that consultation shall include, to the extent
practicable, written communication to those committees
that affords such committees the opportunity to comment
before the issuance of the report.
``(C) Assumptions and guidelines.--OMB estimates
under this paragraph shall be made using current
economic and technical assumptions. OMB shall use the
OMB estimates transmitted to the Congress under this
paragraph. OMB and CBO shall prepare estimates under
this paragraph in conformance with scorekeeping
guidelines determined after consultation among the
Committees on the Budget of the House of Representatives
and the Senate, CBO, and OMB.
``(D) Annual appropriations.--For purposes of this
paragraph, amounts provided by annual appropriations
shall include any discretionary appropriations for the
current year, if any, and the budget year in accounts
for which funding is provided in that legislation that
result from previously enacted legislation.

Excerpt from http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ25/html/PLAW-112publ25.htm

 

[Dot Com]

Boehner's "Plan B" threw a monkey wrench into the whole works. Nice going Republicans. I remember when he rushed that plan frwd & I was like "WTF?!!!"

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Boehner's "Plan B" threw a monkey wrench into the whole works. Nice going Republicans. I remember when he rushed that plan frwd & I was like "WTF?!!!"

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

 

[edthecynic]

Ultimately, the solution came from White House National Economic Council Director Gene Sperling, who, on July 12, 2011, proposed a compulsory trigger that would go into effect if another agreement was not made on tax increases and/or budget cuts equal to or greater than the the debt ceiling increase by a future date. The intent was to secure the commitment of both sides to future negotiation by means of an enforcement mechanism that would be unpalatable to Republicans and Democrats alike. President Obama agreed to the plan. House Speaker John Boehner expressed reservations, but also agreed.[15]

Again that comes from the thoroughly discredited Woodward book! If you noticed, Woodward no longer cites that alleged meeting between Sperling, Obama and Boner because it never happened. Woodward leaves it out of his most current article in the Washington Post because Obama and Boner had stopped speaking to each other for 5 days from July 9 to July 14, 2011. You have to remember Woodward gets all his info second handed at the very least, not from the actual speakers.

From Woodward's discredited book that has all three speaking together during the time Obama and Boner weren't talking to each other.

Page 215 (July 12, 2011):
They turned to [White House national economic council director Gene] Sperling for details about a compulsory trigger if they didn’t cut spending or raise taxes in an amount at least equivalent to the debt ceiling increase.
“A trigger would lock in our commitment,” Sperling explained. “Even though we disagree on the composition of how to get to the cuts, it would lock us in. The form of the automatic sequester would punish both sides. We’d have to September to avert any sequester” — a legal obligation to make spending cuts.
“Then we could use a medium or big deal to force tax reform,” Obama said optimistically.
“If this is a trigger for tax reform,” [House speaker John] Boehner said, “this could be worth discussing. But as a budget tool, it’s too complicated. I’m very nervous about this.”
“This would be an enforcement mechanism,” Obama said.

 

[edthecynic]

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

Woodward has been thoroughly discredited, unless you can show how July 27 came before July 25.

First YOU MUST show where he has been discredited.

Already did that multiple times, that's where the July 27th and 25th come from, pay attention.

Woodward's book has Obama talking together during the 5 days the two weren't speaking to each other. Woodward's book has no credibility, which is why the Misinformation Voter clings to it!!!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Woodward has been thoroughly discredited, unless you can show how July 27 came before July 25.

First YOU MUST show where he has been discredited.

Already did that multiple times, that's where the July 27th and 25th come from, pay attention.

Woodward's book has Obama talking together during the 5 days the two weren't speaking to each other. Woodward's book has no credibility, which is why the Misinformation Voter clings to it!!!

You aren't credible, so you don't count. I want some type of authority to say he has been discredited. And are you also say politifacts is discredited?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ed the liar here's another one date Uploaded on Apr 11, 2011
[ame=http://youtu.be/TCNTqtg_-oI]Will Obama Cut Medicare, Social Security? (Rep. DeFazio w/ Cenk) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Synthaholic]

edthepartisanhack are you still lying about sequester not being obama's idea and suggestion?

What choice does he have?

Obama is responsible for sequestration, and everyone knows Obama never takes the blame for anything, so he's trying to blame it on someone else as usual...and it's blown up in his face.

His deluded sycophants are trapped between a rock and a hard place, attempting to defend the indefensible.

Even democratic leaning politfact says it belongs too obama. Check out the post before yours

And PolitiFact is wrong, as I just emailed them, and Twittered them with the proof that Boehner's office released a statement on July 25 suggesting the sequester.

Politifact is relying on bad reporting from wingnut Bob Woodward.

 

[Synthaholic]

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

What's the date on that, Rebecca?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

February 23, 2013
Obama's lies about the origin of the sequester
Rick Moran




President Obama has been making a big deal about blaming Congress for the sequester, even saying at one point during his debate with Romney last year, "The sequester is not something that I've proposed," Obama said. "It is something that Congress has proposed."

He either has a short memory or is a bald faced liar, as Bob Woodward points out:

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

"There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger," Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It "was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure."

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book "The Price of Politics" shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors -- probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.

Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, "We didn't actually think it would be that hard to convince them" -- Reid and the Republicans -- to adopt the sequester. "It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table."​

[Excerpt]


Read more:
Blog: Obama's lies about the origin of the sequester

 

[Synthaholic]

February 23, 2013
Obama's lies about the origin of the sequester
Rick Moran




President Obama has been making a big deal about blaming Congress for the sequester, even saying at one point during his debate with Romney last year, "The sequester is not something that I've proposed," Obama said. "It is something that Congress has proposed."

He either has a short memory or is a bald faced liar, as Bob Woodward points out:

The White House chief of staff at the time, Jack Lew, who had been budget director during the negotiations that set up the sequester in 2011, backed up the president two days later.

"There was an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some automatic trigger," Lew said while campaigning in Florida. It "was very much rooted in the Republican congressional insistence that there be an automatic measure."

The president and Lew had this wrong. My extensive reporting for my book "The Price of Politics" shows that the automatic spending cuts were initiated by the White House and were the brainchild of Lew and White House congressional relations chief Rob Nabors -- probably the foremost experts on budget issues in the senior ranks of the federal government.

Obama personally approved of the plan for Lew and Nabors to propose the sequester to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). They did so at 2:30 p.m. July 27, 2011, according to interviews with two senior White House aides who were directly involved.

Nabors has told others that they checked with the president before going to see Reid. A mandatory sequester was the only action-forcing mechanism they could devise. Nabors has said, "We didn't actually think it would be that hard to convince them" -- Reid and the Republicans -- to adopt the sequester. "It really was the only thing we had. There was not a lot of other options left on the table."​

[Excerpt]


Read more:
Blog: Obama's lies about the origin of the sequester

Hey, ******* moron:

Two-Step Approach to Hold President Obama Accountable | Speaker.gov


CAPS TO CONTROL FUTURE SPENDING
The framework imposes spending caps that would establish clear limits on future spending and serve as a barrier against government expansion while the economy grows. Failure to remain below these caps will trigger automatic across-the-board cuts (otherwise known as sequestration). This is the same mechanism used in the 1997 Balanced Budget Agreement.



​

Click the link - what's the date?

July 25, 2011

 

[edthecynic]

Ed the liar here's another one date Uploaded on Apr 11, 2011
Will Obama Cut Medicare, Social Security? (Rep. DeFazio w/ Cenk) - YouTube

No mention of Boner's sequester in that video!

 

[NYcarbineer]

When did conservatives ALL get this stupid?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ed the liar here's another one date Uploaded on Apr 11, 2011
Will Obama Cut Medicare, Social Security? (Rep. DeFazio w/ Cenk) - YouTube

No mention of Boner's sequester in that video!

But obama's yes.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts

Woodward’s reporting shows clearly that defense sequestration was an idea that came out of Obama’s White House. But the intention was to force Republicans to negotiate, not to actually put the cuts into effect.

What's the date on that, Rebecca?

***** are you saying the left leaning politifact is lying? Are you calling Woodward a liar?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What choice does he have?

Obama is responsible for sequestration, and everyone knows Obama never takes the blame for anything, so he's trying to blame it on someone else as usual...and it's blown up in his face.

His deluded sycophants are trapped between a rock and a hard place, attempting to defend the indefensible.

Even democratic leaning politfact says it belongs too obama. Check out the post before yours

And PolitiFact is wrong, as I just emailed them, and Twittered them with the proof that Boehner's office released a statement on July 25 suggesting the sequester.

Politifact is relying on bad reporting from wingnut Bob Woodward.

I bet they are laughing their ass off at some internet ***** whining about obama being busted for lying again.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqD2h7e_MLg]Flashback: Obama promises veto stopgap alternative to sequester cuts - YouTube[/ame]