Separating anti-Semitism from Anti-Zionism

[Roudy]

And the Jews refused to be killed by IslamoNazi savages. There were no "Palestinians" back then, just Arab invaders.

From The Armenian Genocide (1914-1924) to the Arab Genocide (1917-today)

1917

Pan-Islamic Vision Comes to Palestine

Amin Al-Husseini returns to Palestine. He brings with him lessons of genocide and the vision of leading a Pan-Islamic empire, where Jews and Christians are not acceptable.

Amin Al-Husseini : Root of Today’s Palestinian Tragedy
1920

The Violence Begins

1920/1921. Riots. Amin Al-Husseini becomes lead figure in organizing riots against locals. Amin Al-Husseini begins life-long campaign of inciting hate between Jews and Muslims under British Mandate of Palestine. He begins rule of terror over local Muslim leaders, who denounce him as an ignorant thug. [iv]

1922

Head of Supreme Muslim Council

Amin Al-Husseini is appointed Head of Supreme Muslim Council (1922-1937)[vi] . He is hugely disappointed by the end of the Ottoman Empire under Ataturk. Husseini becomes fanaticized by the idea that he must restore the lost Islamic Empire. He vows to fight all Muslim seculars.

1922

Jerusalem Capital

Amin Al-Husseini implements restoration of Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem[vii] . He has the Dome gold-plated for the first time. Thereafter, Jerusalem takes on more importance as Holy Muslim site in the eyes of the Arab World.

1928

Husseini Joins Muslim Brotherhood

Muslim Brotherhood established in Egypt by Hassan El Banna[viii] in 1928. Amin Al-Husseini becomes a central member and ideological inspiration[ix] for the Muslim Brotherhood. Mother organization for today’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad and Hamas[x] . The Muslim Brotherhood preaches Wahhabi Islam[xi] , which justifies violent means to rid the ‘Muslim world’ of its non-Islamic element. It envisions a Pan-Islamic Empire, where strict Islamic law rules over all.

1929
Hebron Massacre

Amin Al-Husseini organizes more riots in Palestine. He spreads false rumors to further turn the local Muslims against the Jews. Random murdering of Hebron Jews begins. Hebron Jewish community was over 2,000 years old.

The rumors were apparently not false. The European Jews intended to evict and/or murder the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

No false rumors, today's Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism, and Arab Islamic nationalism. You cannot change history.

HUSSEINI : “Murder The Jews! Murder Them All!”
1946

Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:

Amin Al-Husseini

Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat[xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat

Holy Struggler

Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949

Husseini:

“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini
with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini[xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Muslim Nazi Troops of Amin Al Husseini. Holy War. 1943.

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini

“I was one of his troops.”

Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:

“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

 

[Roudy]

I'm thinking the revisionists would like to engage in all kinds of antisemitic lingo disguised as anti zionistic relying on the general publics ignorance of what exactly zionism is

Quote
Until 1948, the primary goals of Zionism were the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel ("Eretz Israel" in Hebrew), ingathering of the exiles, and liberation of Jews from the antisemitic discrimination and persecution that occurred in their diaspora. Since the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, Zionism continues primarily to advocate on behalf of Israel and address threats to its continued existence and security.

A religious variety of Zionism supports Jews upholding their Jewish identity defined as adherence to religious Judaism, opposes the assimilation of Jews into other societies, and has advocated the return of Jews to Israel as a means for Jews to be a majority nation in their own state.[1] A variety of Zionism, called cultural Zionism, founded and represented most prominently by Ahad Ha'am, fostered a secular vision of a Jewish "spiritual center" in Israel. Unlike Herzl, the founder of political Zionism, Ahad Ha'am strived for Israel to be "a Jewish state and not merely a state of Jews".[8]

Advocates of Zionism view it as a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a persecuted people residing as minorities in a variety of nations, to the homeland to which they had a historical connection.
End quote

That was from WIKI

The simple reality is that zionism is simply the support of the state of Israel and the belief that it is exactly where it should be, Israel today is in the exact same spot as Judea was in ancient times. ;--)

You would be surprised what Ahad Ha'am actually wrote:


"Thus, in the spring of 1891, writing from Jerusalem, Ahad Ha'am was the first Zionist intellectual to raise the question of the Arabs. There were 3,000 Jews then in the farming settlements of Palestine and perhaps 10,000 more in the cities, among half a million Arabs. And yet, Ahad Ha'am predicted that conflict between Jews and Arabs was probable and perhaps inevitable. The Arabs, he insisted, were not "wild men of the desert" who would remain inert and uncomprehending while the Zionists built their community. "If in the course of time," he wrote, "the Jewish holding in the country should develop significantly and encroach in some degree on the Arabs, they will not easily give up their position." The clear meaning of this warning was that Palestine was not, as some early slogans proclaimed, "a land without a people" waiting for a "people without a land." All his life he kept insisting that both prudence and justice commanded the Zionists to make peace with the Arabs.

100 Years Later, a Jewish Writer's Time Has Come

Bull.

http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3


163. The Arabs of Palestine consider themselves as having a "natural" right to that country, although they have not been in possession of it as a sovereign nation.


166. The desire of the Arab people of Palestine to safeguard their national existence is a very natural desire. However, Palestinian nationalism, as distinct from Arab nationalism, is itself a relatively new phenomenon, which appeared only after the division of the "Arab rectangle" by the settlement of the First World War.

What does that nonsense have to do with Ahad Ha'am's statement? Do you even know who he is?

From your reference :

"148. When the Mandate was approved, all concerned were aware of the existence of an overwhelming Arab majority in Palestine. More over, the King-Crane Report, among others, had warned that the Zionist program could not be carried out except by force of arms. It would seem clear, therefore, that the provisions of the Mandate relating to the Jewish National Home could be based only on the assumption that sooner or later the Arab fears would gradually be overcome and that Arab hostility to the terms of the Mandate would in time weaken and disappear.

149. This seems to have been the basic assumption, but it proved to be a false one, since the history of the last twenty-five years has established the fact that not only the creation of a Jewish State but even the continuation of the building of the Jewish National Home by restricted immigration could be implemented only by the use of some considerable force. It cannot be properly contended that the use of force as a means of establishing the National Home was either intended by the Mandate or implied by its provisions. On the contrary, the provisions of the Mandate should preclude any systematic use of force for the purpose of its application. In its preamble, the Mandate states that the Principal Allied Powers agreed to entrust Palestine to a mandatory Power for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations.147/ The guiding principle of that Article was the well-being of peoples not yet able to stand by themselves."

150. It has been suggested that the well-being of the indigenous population of Palestine might be ensured by the unfettered development of the Jewish National Home, "Well-being" in a practical sense, however, must be something more than a mere objective conception; and the Arabs, thinking subjectively, have demonstrated by their acts their belief that the conversion of Palestine into a Jewish State against their will would be very much opposed to their conception of what is essential to their well-being. To contend, therefore, that there is an international obligation to the effect that Jewish immigration should continue with a view to establishing a Jewish majority in the whole of Palestine, would mean ignoring the wishes of the Arab population and their views as to their own well-being. This would involve an apparent violation of what was the governing principle of Article 22 of the Covenant.



As I have always contended Britain violated the terms of the Covenant of the United Nations. You lose. Hoisted by your own petard, as they say. LOL

No petard hoisting here -- 'xcept yours. As you know -- the Mandate carried out those concerns by excluding the MAJORITY of Palestine to any part of the Jewish state. No violation -- apparent or otherwise..

Well, you win first prize in cognitive dissonance, or have other comprehension challenges. You certainly do not do your side any favors, but then you folks are trying to defend the indefensible.
As they say, it's better for you to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. Y

Oh and of course all the Palestinian terroristic actions are totally defensible, on Mars maybe.

 

[flacaltenn]

Moderation Message:

Thread is going off topic here. Fair warning.. This topic is DIFFERENT.. Not about Muftis or the LofNations.

 

[montelatici]

The rumors were apparently not false. The European Jews intended to evict and/or murder the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

No false rumors, today's Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism, and Arab Islamic nationalism. You cannot change history.

HUSSEINI : “Murder The Jews! Murder Them All!”
1946

Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:

Amin Al-Husseini

Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat[xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat

Holy Struggler

Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949

Husseini:

“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini
with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini[xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Muslim Nazi Troops of Amin Al Husseini. Holy War. 1943.

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini

“I was one of his troops.”

Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:

“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

First of all the "ancient Jews" in Hebron were Arab Jews from Spain, not that ancient. Secondly, the other European Jews in Hebron were intent evicting the Christians and Muslims from Palestine to colonize it as the Zionist proclaimed in 1899.

 

[Roudy]

No false rumors, today's Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism, and Arab Islamic nationalism. You cannot change history.

HUSSEINI : “Murder The Jews! Murder Them All!”
1946

Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:

Amin Al-Husseini

Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat[xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat

Holy Struggler

Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949

Husseini:

“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini
with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini[xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Muslim Nazi Troops of Amin Al Husseini. Holy War. 1943.

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini

“I was one of his troops.”

Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:

“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

First of all the "ancient Jews" in Hebron were Arab Jews from Spain, not that ancient. Secondly, the other European Jews in Hebron were intent evicting the Christians and Muslims from Palestine to colonize it as the Zionist proclaimed in 1899.

Yama yada yada. Stay on topic, freak. What does anti-Zionism mean to a dedicated antisemite like you? You want the Jewish state dismantled and Muslim savages in charge establishing yet another Islamic shariah terrorist shithole. It ain't gonna happen, ever.

 

[montelatici]

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

First of all the "ancient Jews" in Hebron were Arab Jews from Spain, not that ancient. Secondly, the other European Jews in Hebron were intent evicting the Christians and Muslims from Palestine to colonize it as the Zionist proclaimed in 1899.

Yama yada yada. Stay on topic, freak. What does anti-Zionism mean to a dedicated antisemite like you? You want the Jewish state dismantled and Muslim savages in charge establishing yet another Islamic shariah terrorist shithole. It ain't gonna happen, ever.

Anti-Zionism means being against a racist master race ideology. It also means wanting a stop to the oppression of people because they don't happen to be Jewish. The Jewish population worldwide declines every year. There are no more Jews in any great numbers interested in immigrating to Israel. The demographics are not in your favor, make a deal now, when you have the upper hand, or end up like Rhodesia instead of like South Africa.

 

[Indeependent]

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

First of all the "ancient Jews" in Hebron were Arab Jews from Spain, not that ancient. Secondly, the other European Jews in Hebron were intent evicting the Christians and Muslims from Palestine to colonize it as the Zionist proclaimed in 1899.

Yama yada yada. Stay on topic, freak. What does anti-Zionism mean to a dedicated antisemite like you? You want the Jewish state dismantled and Muslim savages in charge establishing yet another Islamic shariah terrorist shithole. It ain't gonna happen, ever.

Anti-Zionism means being against a racist master race ideology. It also means wanting a stop to the oppression of people because they don't happen to be Jewish. The Jewish population worldwide declines every year. There are no more Jews in any great numbers interested in immigrating to Israel. The demographics are not in your favor, make a deal now, when you have the upper hand, or end up like Rhodesia instead of like South Africa.

Which is why the RCC tried to exterminate the Jews for 1,000 years.
And let's forget about that Eternal Lake of Fire bit.
Yeah, no theocratic Chauvinism going on there.
7 The LORD did not set His love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people--for ye were the fewest of all peoples--
Numbers don't matter to God.
By the way, how's that conversation with your Priest going where you don't believe the OT is Heaven Breathed?
A phony Catholic is as pathetic as a phony Jew.

 

[Roudy]

Arabs attacked, get a$$es kicked, Monty cries.

It was the Jews that started murdering and evicting the Christians and Muslims, as confirmed by recently declassified British intelligence documents. The British determined that the Arab armies were the Palestinians only hope for survival.

"Declassified UK reports document build-up of conflict, Jewish public's endorsement of their leaders' pro-terrorist stance and declare armies of Arab states were Palestinians' 'only hope'

As early as October 1946, two years before partition, UK officials warned London that Jewish opinion would oppose partition "unless the Jewish share were so enlarged as to make the scheme wholly unacceptable to Arabs".

After an increase in violent attacks by the militant Zionists of the Stern group and Irgun, British officials reported later in 1946: "Arab leaders appear to be still disposed to defer active opposition so long as a chance of a political decision acceptable to Arab interests exists." But they warned: "There is a real danger lest any further Jewish provocation may result in isolated acts of retaliation spreading inevitably to wider Arab-Jewish clashes"

British officials predicted war – and Arab defeat – in Palestine in 1948

Bzzzzz wrong again. Everything was hunky dory until your hero the Palestinian Nazi mufti came along and incited the Arab Muslim animals to attack the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

First of all the "ancient Jews" in Hebron were Arab Jews from Spain, not that ancient. Secondly, the other European Jews in Hebron were intent evicting the Christians and Muslims from Palestine to colonize it as the Zionist proclaimed in 1899.

Yama yada yada. Stay on topic, freak. What does anti-Zionism mean to a dedicated antisemite like you? You want the Jewish state dismantled and Muslim savages in charge establishing yet another Islamic shariah terrorist shithole. It ain't gonna happen, ever.

Anti-Zionism means being against a racist master race ideology. It also means wanting a stop to the oppression of people because they don't happen to be Jewish. The Jewish population worldwide declines every year. There are no more Jews in any great numbers interested in immigrating to Israel. The demographics are not in your favor, make a deal now, when you have the upper hand, or end up like Rhodesia instead of like South Africa.

But then again, that's just your definition. Here on planet earth, anti-Zionism means being against the Jewish state, and most anti-Zionists are racist, antisemtic pigs.

Actually, demographics are very much in favor of Israel, Israel population increased to almost nine, yes nine million this year....so here goes another of your fantasies, jerkoff!

The Jerusalem Post

Speaking at the start of the weekly cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu exhibited the population numbers as a triumph over the Holocaust and other tragedies that have befallen the Jewish people.

“I can say that there are more than six million Jews in Israel, in light of the course our people has taken in the last century,” he said.

Israel “is not short of challenges,” the prime minister added, “but our strength is unifying the nation and repelling our enemies.”

.........whoo-hoo!

Now, can we hear a "praise to the Allah?"

Achmed now considering pulling on the detonator cord...

 

[Shusha]

Anti-Zionism means being against a racist master race ideology.

This is anti-semitism.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Separating anti-Semitism from Anti-Zionism"

...is an effort in futility.

Objective, factual, appropriate criticism of Israel will always be met with the same red herring fallacy, where those engaging in such appropriate criticism will always be accused of being 'anti-Semites.'

 

[Shusha]

If someone can find me some objective, factual, appropriate criticism of Israel I'll be astounded. Been debating on forums like this for a dozen years and it is very hard to come by.

 

[Roudy]

In fact, anti-Zionism can only be described as a concept that antisemites have created to make themselves look politically correct.

 

[Bleipriester]

There is no anti-zionism and no anti-semitism.
In fact, tensions between Jews and others did not arose from anti-zionism and anti-semitism but from typical human issues.
For example, a war between the US and Mexico would not be considered the result of anti-mexicanism or anto-americanism.

 

[Lipush]

I have a few issues with this article...

I have many Semite friends so cannot really call myself anti-semitic

I believe that Jews have a right, as does everyone have a right, to a 'homeland' so cannot really call myself anti-zionist

I do have issues with what I consider the extremist zionists, Israeli government for example, who are simply belligerent or, perhaps, belligerently simple!

I do have issues with what I consider the extremist muslims, Hamas for example, who are simply belligerent or, perhaps, belligerently simple!

So, what's with this article?

It goes some way, not far enough, perhaps not clearly enough in my opinion, in an attempt to show that there really is a difference between anti-semitic and anti-zionist...

In the same way that there is a difference between race and religion... Though most people prefer to muddy the waters by mixing the two, normally to benefit their own argument!

Separating anti-Semitism from Anti-Zionism

Anti-semites want all Jews in the sea.

Anti-'Zionists' will throw us a snorkel.

 

[Lipush]

I have a few issues with this article...

I have many Semite friends so cannot really call myself anti-semitic

I believe that Jews have a right, as does everyone have a right, to a 'homeland' so cannot really call myself anti-zionist

I do have issues with what I consider the extremist zionists, Israeli government for example, who are simply belligerent or, perhaps, belligerently simple!

I do have issues with what I consider the extremist muslims, Hamas for example, who are simply belligerent or, perhaps, belligerently simple!

So, what's with this article?

It goes some way, not far enough, perhaps not clearly enough in my opinion, in an attempt to show that there really is a difference between anti-semitic and anti-zionist...

In the same way that there is a difference between race and religion... Though most people prefer to muddy the waters by mixing the two, normally to benefit their own argument!

Separating anti-Semitism from Anti-Zionism

Israeli government is Extrimist Zionism?

When did that happen?

And how come I didn't get the memo?

 

[Lipush]

Its rather simple, one is secular people who see Judaism as their culture (Zionist) and their God is money and they don't like the religious who actually practice Judaism due to the fact they wont fight and most don't have time to work due to hours of studying the Torah , and both of them contain radicals and zealots. Zionist are also those who worship all of them called Jews and kiss their feet for a name in society, power, money, and prestige, and evangelicals who think they are to be worshipped.

That's the greatest load of bullshit I've ever heard, I'm getting whiplash.

You confuse all sorts of Jews with one another.

Get a clue.

 

[Lipush]

Right the Palestinians should just lie down die, because the Zionist , secular Europeans thought and think they have some Godly right to it, of course we all know its an excuse they use and are using. Even the PM's expected a fight, they just didn't think that the Palestinians would last this long.

Right the Palestinians should just lie down die

Strike one....I don't recall any Israeli saying that, ever. Most of the common Israelis will be glad to wipe Hummus with Palestinians in a restaurant in Hebron or Tel Aviv, if it was up to us.

Because the Zionists, secular Europeans.

Strike two.... IF you dig in the history of secular Jews, you'd discover that most of them are originally rooted in religious/orthodox families. my family is considered secular, but in Europe most of our men was Hazzanim or Rabbies.

they have some Godly right to it

That crime is common for Israelis and Palestinians alike. But we believe our right is historical, ne less than it's religious.

 

[Lipush]

Ha ha ha. coming from someone who gets hung by his own soiled IslamoNazi underwear. You quote the British when it's convenient, and discount them when it isn't.

The Arabs refused the creation of the Jewish state by the UN, attacked it, and got their butts kicked, and the rest of a history of Arabs getting their butts kicked.

Bottom line Israel is and will be, Palestine never was and never will be.

Now repeat after me: "Inshallah". Ha ha ha.

The Palestinians refused to be colonized by Europeans. I haven't heard of any people that did not resist colonization.

And the Jews refused to be killed by IslamoNazi savages. There were no "Palestinians" back then, just Arab invaders.

From The Armenian Genocide (1914-1924) to the Arab Genocide (1917-today)

1917

Pan-Islamic Vision Comes to Palestine

Amin Al-Husseini returns to Palestine. He brings with him lessons of genocide and the vision of leading a Pan-Islamic empire, where Jews and Christians are not acceptable.

Amin Al-Husseini : Root of Today’s Palestinian Tragedy
1920

The Violence Begins

1920/1921. Riots. Amin Al-Husseini becomes lead figure in organizing riots against locals. Amin Al-Husseini begins life-long campaign of inciting hate between Jews and Muslims under British Mandate of Palestine. He begins rule of terror over local Muslim leaders, who denounce him as an ignorant thug. [iv]

1922

Head of Supreme Muslim Council

Amin Al-Husseini is appointed Head of Supreme Muslim Council (1922-1937)[vi] . He is hugely disappointed by the end of the Ottoman Empire under Ataturk. Husseini becomes fanaticized by the idea that he must restore the lost Islamic Empire. He vows to fight all Muslim seculars.

1922

Jerusalem Capital

Amin Al-Husseini implements restoration of Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem[vii] . He has the Dome gold-plated for the first time. Thereafter, Jerusalem takes on more importance as Holy Muslim site in the eyes of the Arab World.

1928

Husseini Joins Muslim Brotherhood

Muslim Brotherhood established in Egypt by Hassan El Banna[viii] in 1928. Amin Al-Husseini becomes a central member and ideological inspiration[ix] for the Muslim Brotherhood. Mother organization for today’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad and Hamas[x] . The Muslim Brotherhood preaches Wahhabi Islam[xi] , which justifies violent means to rid the ‘Muslim world’ of its non-Islamic element. It envisions a Pan-Islamic Empire, where strict Islamic law rules over all.

1929
Hebron Massacre

Amin Al-Husseini organizes more riots in Palestine. He spreads false rumors to further turn the local Muslims against the Jews. Random murdering of Hebron Jews begins. Hebron Jewish community was over 2,000 years old.

The rumors were apparently not false. The European Jews intended to evict and/or murder the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

No false rumors, today's Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism, and Arab Islamic nationalism. You cannot change history.

HUSSEINI : “Murder The Jews! Murder Them All!”
1946

Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:

Amin Al-Husseini

Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat[xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat

Holy Struggler

Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949

Husseini:

“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini
with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini[xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Muslim Nazi Troops of Amin Al Husseini. Holy War. 1943.

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini

“I was one of his troops.”

Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:

“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Is there any actual reason why Arafat became the speakers of Palestinians in the first place? The guy was not even a Palestinian.

 

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The Palestinians refused to be colonized by Europeans. I haven't heard of any people that did not resist colonization.

And the Jews refused to be killed by IslamoNazi savages. There were no "Palestinians" back then, just Arab invaders.

From The Armenian Genocide (1914-1924) to the Arab Genocide (1917-today)

1917

Pan-Islamic Vision Comes to Palestine

Amin Al-Husseini returns to Palestine. He brings with him lessons of genocide and the vision of leading a Pan-Islamic empire, where Jews and Christians are not acceptable.

Amin Al-Husseini : Root of Today’s Palestinian Tragedy
1920

The Violence Begins

1920/1921. Riots. Amin Al-Husseini becomes lead figure in organizing riots against locals. Amin Al-Husseini begins life-long campaign of inciting hate between Jews and Muslims under British Mandate of Palestine. He begins rule of terror over local Muslim leaders, who denounce him as an ignorant thug. [iv]

1922

Head of Supreme Muslim Council

Amin Al-Husseini is appointed Head of Supreme Muslim Council (1922-1937)[vi] . He is hugely disappointed by the end of the Ottoman Empire under Ataturk. Husseini becomes fanaticized by the idea that he must restore the lost Islamic Empire. He vows to fight all Muslim seculars.

1922

Jerusalem Capital

Amin Al-Husseini implements restoration of Dome of the Rock and Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem[vii] . He has the Dome gold-plated for the first time. Thereafter, Jerusalem takes on more importance as Holy Muslim site in the eyes of the Arab World.

1928

Husseini Joins Muslim Brotherhood

Muslim Brotherhood established in Egypt by Hassan El Banna[viii] in 1928. Amin Al-Husseini becomes a central member and ideological inspiration[ix] for the Muslim Brotherhood. Mother organization for today’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad and Hamas[x] . The Muslim Brotherhood preaches Wahhabi Islam[xi] , which justifies violent means to rid the ‘Muslim world’ of its non-Islamic element. It envisions a Pan-Islamic Empire, where strict Islamic law rules over all.

1929
Hebron Massacre

Amin Al-Husseini organizes more riots in Palestine. He spreads false rumors to further turn the local Muslims against the Jews. Random murdering of Hebron Jews begins. Hebron Jewish community was over 2,000 years old.

The rumors were apparently not false. The European Jews intended to evict and/or murder the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

No false rumors, today's Palestinians are the bastard children of the marriage between Nazism, and Arab Islamic nationalism. You cannot change history.

HUSSEINI : “Murder The Jews! Murder Them All!”
1946

Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:

Amin Al-Husseini

Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat[xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat

Holy Struggler

Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949

Husseini:

“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini
with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt.
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Amin Al-Husseini[xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Muslim Nazi Troops of Amin Al Husseini. Holy War. 1943.

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini

“I was one of his troops.”

Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:

“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”

Is there any reason why Arafat should not have resisted European Jew colonization of Palestine? What do think he should have done? Welcomed the European Jews?

Is there any actual reason why Arafat became the speakers of Palestinians in the first place? The guy was not even a Palestinian.

His father was Palestinian so he had Palestinian citizenship at birth (1929) and he was raised in Palestine (Jerusalem) for the most part.

 

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Anti-Zionism means being against a racist master race ideology.

This is anti-semitism.

No it is not antisemitism. I hold the same opinion of any ideology that holds that particular group is superior and should be separate.