Senate cannot try a private citizen !!!

[Nostra]

I’m citing the Constitution, Stupid.

You should find someone to read it to you.

Here's the constitution:

Show me where it says that Roberts must preside over the impeachment trial of an ex-president.

If you're citing the constitution, this will be remarkably easy. If you're citing your imagination, it will be a bit harder.

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

Says who? That would be you, citing yourself.

Trump was impeached, thus the Senate has authority. Says who? Says the constitution.

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation."

Now why would I ignore the constitution and instead believe your rambling pseudo-legal gibberish?

Show me where the Constitution spells out the procedures for impeaching a private citizen.

You lose again.

There's no 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority over impeachment trials. You imagined it.

Trump was impeached. Thus, the Senate has authority over his impeachment trial. Says who? Says the constitution.

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation."

I keep quoting the constitution. You keep quoting yourself. Our sources are not equal.

 

[Skylar]

This is getting boring. The constitution is clear as a bell that the Senate has authority over all impeachment trials. There's nothing in the constitution that requires that anyone being tried in an impeachment trial must still be in office.

 

[Skylar]

I’m citing the Constitution, Stupid.

You should find someone to read it to you.

Here's the constitution:

Show me where it says that Roberts must preside over the impeachment trial of an ex-president.

If you're citing the constitution, this will be remarkably easy. If you're citing your imagination, it will be a bit harder.

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

Says who? That would be you, citing yourself.

Trump was impeached, thus the Senate has authority. Says who? Says the constitution.

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation."

Now why would I ignore the constitution and instead believe your rambling pseudo-legal gibberish?

Show me where the Constitution spells out the procedures for impeaching a private citizen.

You lose again.

There's no 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority over impeachment trials. You imagined it.

Trump was impeached. Thus, the Senate has authority over his impeachment trial. Says who? Says the constitution.

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation."

I keep quoting the constitution. You keep quoting yourself. Our sources are not equal.

Laughing......you keep ignoring the constitution and citing your imagination.

Good luck with that.

 

[Nostra]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

 

[Skylar]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

 

[Lesh]

LOL You aren't wiggling your way out this one. It's a valid trial, being conducted in a legal manner, just like the election was. All the crying and whining in the world isn't going to change this, either.

You are clearly ignorant of what the Constitution says about a Senate Impeachment trial.

Or....you are. Here's everything the constitution has to say on the matter:

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law."

That establishes the Senate's authority. That establishes the punishments. That establishes the requirements of conviction.

So where is the part that says that Trump's impeachment is an 'unconstitutional farce'? Because I'm pretty sure you're citing your imagination on that one.

You just posted that Trump was an EX-PRESIDENT. Now you are arguing he is President.

You can’t win, Stupid.

You're talking in circles as always.

A. Trump was President when Impeached in the House

B. He is now a private citizen but that does not protect him. Private citizens have been both Impeached and tried in the past

C. Since he is NOW a private citizen the CJ of SCOTUS is not required for the Senate trial. MANY non Presidents have been Impeached and tried in the Senate with either the VP or the President Pro Tem presiding.

So just shut the fuck up.

You're wrong and you're lying

 

[Skylar]

This from the Senate's own website:

"On March 2, 1876, just minutes before the House of Representatives was scheduled to vote on articles of impeachment, Belknap raced to the White House, handed Grant his resignation, and burst into tears.

This failed to stop the House. Later that day, members voted unanimously to send the Senate five articles of impeachment, charging Belknap with “criminally disregarding his duty as Secretary of War and basely prostituting his high office to his lust for private gain.”

The Senate convened its trial in early April, with Belknap present, after agreeing that it retained impeachment jurisdiction over former government officials. During May, the Senate heard more than 40 witnesses, as House managers argued that Belknap should not be allowed to escape from justice simply by resigning his office.

On August 1, 1876, the Senate rendered a majority vote against Belknap on all five articles. As each vote fell short of the necessary two-thirds, however, he won acquittal. Belknap was not prosecuted further; he died in 1890."

So much for Nostra's imagination that the Senate's authority over impeachment trials is limited by leaving office.

No such limit exists. Not in the constitution. Not in history. Not in precedent.

 

[Nostra]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

It specifically spells out the very few people impeachment applies to, stupid.

You just keep losing,

 

[Nostra]

LOL You aren't wiggling your way out this one. It's a valid trial, being conducted in a legal manner, just like the election was. All the crying and whining in the world isn't going to change this, either.

You are clearly ignorant of what the Constitution says about a Senate Impeachment trial.

Or....you are. Here's everything the constitution has to say on the matter:

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law."

That establishes the Senate's authority. That establishes the punishments. That establishes the requirements of conviction.

So where is the part that says that Trump's impeachment is an 'unconstitutional farce'? Because I'm pretty sure you're citing your imagination on that one.

You just posted that Trump was an EX-PRESIDENT. Now you are arguing he is President.

You can’t win, Stupid.

You're talking in circles as always.

A. Trump was President when Impeached in the House

B. He is now a private citizen but that does not protect him. Private citizens have been both Impeached and tried in the past

C. Since he is NOW a private citizen the CJ of SCOTUS is not required for the Senate trial. MANY non Presidents have been Impeached and tried in the Senate with either the VP or the President Pro Tem presiding.

So just shut the fuck up.

You're wrong and you're lying

What private citizen was “Both impeached and tried in the past”

 

[Skylar]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

It specifically spells out the very few people impeachment applies to, stupid.

You just keep losing,

Impeachment trials are limited to those who have been impeached.

Trump was impeached. Thus, the Senate has authority over his trial.

Try again.

 

[Lesh]

What private citizen was “Both impeached and tried in the past”

So you have the memory of a goldfish?

Sec of War William Belknap. But you knew that. You've only been told fifteen times

 

[Skylar]

LOL You aren't wiggling your way out this one. It's a valid trial, being conducted in a legal manner, just like the election was. All the crying and whining in the world isn't going to change this, either.

You are clearly ignorant of what the Constitution says about a Senate Impeachment trial.

Or....you are. Here's everything the constitution has to say on the matter:

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law."

That establishes the Senate's authority. That establishes the punishments. That establishes the requirements of conviction.

So where is the part that says that Trump's impeachment is an 'unconstitutional farce'? Because I'm pretty sure you're citing your imagination on that one.

You just posted that Trump was an EX-PRESIDENT. Now you are arguing he is President.

You can’t win, Stupid.

You're talking in circles as always.

A. Trump was President when Impeached in the House

B. He is now a private citizen but that does not protect him. Private citizens have been both Impeached and tried in the past

C. Since he is NOW a private citizen the CJ of SCOTUS is not required for the Senate trial. MANY non Presidents have been Impeached and tried in the Senate with either the VP or the President Pro Tem presiding.

So just shut the fuck up.

You're wrong and you're lying

What private citizen was “Both impeached and tried in the past”

William Belknap was impeached and tried despite leaving his office. As long as someone has been impeached, the Senate has authority over their impeachment trial.

U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page

404 Error Page

www.senate.gov

Remember......you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Lesh]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

It specifically spells out the very few people impeachment applies to, stupid.

You just keep losing,

you're simply trolling

 

[Lesh]

Remember......you have no idea what you're talking about.

He knows. He's a troll

 

[Skylar]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

It specifically spells out the very few people impeachment applies to, stupid.

You just keep losing,

you're simply trolling

Yup. He knows he's lost. Which is why the entirity of his argument now is to ignore the constitution and precedent......and just make up whatever he likes.

It worked for Trump. For a while, anyway.

 

[Lesh]

Nostra You're talking in circles as always.

A. Trump was President when Impeached in the House

B. He is now a private citizen but that does not protect him. Private citizens have been both Impeached and tried in the past

C. Since he is NOW a private citizen the CJ of SCOTUS is not required for the Senate trial. MANY non Presidents have been Impeached and tried in the Senate with either the VP or the President Pro Tem presiding.

So just shut the fuck up.

You're wrong and you're lying and Trolling

 

[j-mac]

It is, Dummy.

Show me where impeachment is for former Presidents.

Impeachment trials are not for former Presidents either, Halfwit.

You lose again.

You're half right. Impeachments are for President/Vice President, and officers of the US only.

Impeachment trials are for anybody who was impeached.

Not according to the Constitution. Try reading it.

Dumbfuck, nothing in the Constitution indicates Twice Impeached Trump can't stand trial in the Senate. You're just too brain-dead to know any better.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. ​

So, just like the hurt Democrat children in the congress, you're making it up as you go....It won't stand.

LOL

Imbecile, I didn't make that up -- I copied & pasted that italicized text from the Constitution.

Hey, I didn't call you names asshole...While you may have copied a portion of text from the Constitution, you left out much of it, and distorted the meaning.

Don't be an imbecile and I won't call you one. I left out nothing that affects that sentence. What part of "ALL" is too confusing for you??

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try ALL Impeachments. ​

Let me put in the context you refuse to....

" The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. "

I got news for ya, Donald Trump is NOT the President of the United States, and Chief Justice Roberts refuses to preside...

 

[Nostra]

LOL You aren't wiggling your way out this one. It's a valid trial, being conducted in a legal manner, just like the election was. All the crying and whining in the world isn't going to change this, either.

You are clearly ignorant of what the Constitution says about a Senate Impeachment trial.

Or....you are. Here's everything the constitution has to say on the matter:

"The Senate shall have sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgement in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law."

That establishes the Senate's authority. That establishes the punishments. That establishes the requirements of conviction.

So where is the part that says that Trump's impeachment is an 'unconstitutional farce'? Because I'm pretty sure you're citing your imagination on that one.

You just posted that Trump was an EX-PRESIDENT. Now you are arguing he is President.

You can’t win, Stupid.

You're talking in circles as always.

A. Trump was President when Impeached in the House

B. He is now a private citizen but that does not protect him. Private citizens have been both Impeached and tried in the past

C. Since he is NOW a private citizen the CJ of SCOTUS is not required for the Senate trial. MANY non Presidents have been Impeached and tried in the Senate with either the VP or the President Pro Tem presiding.

So just shut the fuck up.

You're wrong and you're lying

What private citizen was “Both impeached and tried in the past”

William Belknap was impeached and tried despite leaving his office. As long as someone has been impeached, the Senate has authority over their impeachment trial.

U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page

404 Error Page

www.senate.gov

Remember......you have no idea what you're talking about.

You are trying to equate resignation in an attempt to avoid being impeached to getting voted out of office. That idiot didn’t have the brains or resources to challenge them.

Trump does.

Your “precedent” is shit.

 

[Nostra]

No such thing as impeaching a private citizen.

It's been shown to you that Sec of War was a private citizen when Impeached due to his resignation.

Now you're just lying

Get educated on the details, Stupid.

There's nothing in the constitution that limits the senate's authority over impeachment trials if the individual being tried has left office.

There's no such 'private citizen' limit to the Senate's authority.

You made that up. And your imagination doesn't bind the Senate.

It specifically spells out the very few people impeachment applies to, stupid.

You just keep losing,

you're simply trolling

Irony.

 

[Nostra]

Remember......you have no idea what you're talking about.

He knows. He's a troll

Irony.