Sen. Blumenthal makes threats on Senate floor if ACB is confirmed to SC.

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Elections have consequences.
If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?
They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.
You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?
It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:
What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.
And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
So if Trump wins again, then it's his right to do the same, correct? bump it up to 101 and add away? you cool with that?
 

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Elections have consequences.
If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?
They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.
You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?
It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:
What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.
And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.
McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.
by following the constitution?

fuck off with this entitlement shit.
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
When were Democrats “cooperating” with Republicans in the past 4 years?
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans

What cooperation commie? It has to start before it can end.

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Democrats have always cooperated with Republicans, at least in their own view. Unfortunately, their view of cooperation is that Republicans give fifty percent while Democrats take fifty percent.
Democrats cooperated with George Bush
Republicans refused to cooperate with Obama and did not support a single piece of legislation
You dumbasses had a super majority in the first two years, and you squandered it with a do nothing President that was happy to tell us to get in the back of the bus....now you don’t like it...tough shit.
 

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If you and yours want to increase the number of justices IF you have the power, do it. But remember the worm always turns and someday, probably soon, the Republicans will control the White House and Senate again and two can play your game. Ending the judicial filibuster already bit you on the ass with Barret. Are you really sure that you want to double down on a losing hand?
Republicans knew that their new rule of an opposition party does not confirm SCOTUS judges would someday bite them in the ass.......But they lived in the present and did it anyway.

Same thing with adding judges to the court. Dems will live in the present and expand the court. They are willing to bank that it may be decades before Republicans win the White House and all of Congress
It's not a new rule. In hte entire history of out country there have been only ten nominations when control of the Senate and White House were split during an election year and eight of those ten failed to be confirmed. The first nomination not to be confirmed under these circumstances happened in 1828.
Tell the rest of the story

Was the President ultimately allowed to fill the seat or not?
Nope. The President nominates. That’s where his power ends, Stupid.

He nominated.
He sure did and the Senate left the seat vacant for a year

That same Constitution says Congress can decide the size of the court
Obama had the ability to nominate any number of potential justices until he found one that was an acceptable compromise with the Senate. He simply chose not to do that. He's the one who left the seat open for nearly a year.
You might actually have a point if that is what happened

Mitch McConnell proclaimed he would not allow Obama to fill that seat before Scalias body was even cold
Because Obama wanted to change the "polarity" of the seat. Up until that point there had been a gentlemen's agreement to keep the court balanced to reduce the politicicalization of the court. That's why most justices were easily confirmed with near unanimity before the Democrats decided to legislate from the bench.
So it's ok for Republicans to flip the "polarity" of a seat, but not for Democrats?
What goes around comes around. You guys broke the gentleman's agreement, why should we be bound by it any more? You guys wanted bare-knuckle politics when you held all the House, Senate and Presidency, you can't complain when we play by your rules.
Great, then you'll be onboard when Democrats #PackTheCourt.
I can’t stress enough how bad of an idea it is to go down this path.
Republicans wanted to politicize that bench, now the toothpaste is out of the tube.

#PackTheCourt
all because the position should be filled by now. so revert back to kindergarten and waa--waaa--waaaa
Nope, now thanks to McConnell, there is no rush to fill a vacancy. The Senate can now even tell a president they will never fill a vacancy. Meaning if Democrats win the Senate and Impeached Trump wins the presidency and yet another SC seat opens up in January, 2021, Democrats can tell him to fuck off and leave the seat open for 4 years until the next president is seated.
that must be 1 of your wet dreams...
 

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STFU you stolen valor POS.

How is this Crypt Keeper looking asswipe even in the Senate?

Perhaps he can paint his face and put on his old Vietnam War jungle cammie's and low crawl into the Senate.
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans

What cooperation commie? It has to start before it can end.

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Democrats have always cooperated with Republicans, at least in their own view. Unfortunately, their view of cooperation is that Republicans give fifty percent while Democrats take fifty percent.
Democrats cooperated with George Bush
Republicans refused to cooperate with Obama and did not support a single piece of legislation
True. Kerry, Clinton, Edwards, Schumer and Biden all voted to go to war with Iraq.
 

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If you and yours want to increase the number of justices IF you have the power, do it. But remember the worm always turns and someday, probably soon, the Republicans will control the White House and Senate again and two can play your game. Ending the judicial filibuster already bit you on the ass with Barret. Are you really sure that you want to double down on a losing hand?
Republicans knew that their new rule of an opposition party does not confirm SCOTUS judges would someday bite them in the ass.......But they lived in the present and did it anyway.

Same thing with adding judges to the court. Dems will live in the present and expand the court. They are willing to bank that it may be decades before Republicans win the White House and all of Congress
It's not a new rule. In hte entire history of out country there have been only ten nominations when control of the Senate and White House were split during an election year and eight of those ten failed to be confirmed. The first nomination not to be confirmed under these circumstances happened in 1828.
Tell the rest of the story

Was the President ultimately allowed to fill the seat or not?
Nope. The President nominates. That’s where his power ends, Stupid.

He nominated.
He sure did and the Senate left the seat vacant for a year

That same Constitution says Congress can decide the size of the court
Obama had the ability to nominate any number of potential justices until he found one that was an acceptable compromise with the Senate. He simply chose not to do that. He's the one who left the seat open for nearly a year.
You might actually have a point if that is what happened

Mitch McConnell proclaimed he would not allow Obama to fill that seat before Scalias body was even cold
Because Obama wanted to change the "polarity" of the seat. Up until that point there had been a gentlemen's agreement to keep the court balanced to reduce the politicicalization of the court. That's why most justices were easily confirmed with near unanimity before the Democrats decided to legislate from the bench.
So it's ok for Republicans to flip the "polarity" of a seat, but not for Democrats?
What goes around comes around. You guys broke the gentleman's agreement, why should we be bound by it any more? You guys wanted bare-knuckle politics when you held all the House, Senate and Presidency, you can't complain when we play by your rules.
Great, then you'll be onboard when Democrats #PackTheCourt.
I can’t stress enough how bad of an idea it is to go down this path.
Republicans wanted to politicize that bench, now the toothpaste is out of the tube.

#PackTheCourt
all because the position should be filled by now. so revert back to kindergarten and waa--waaa--waaaa
Nope, now thanks to McConnell, there is no rush to fill a vacancy. The Senate can now even tell a president they will never fill a vacancy. Meaning if Democrats win the Senate and Impeached Trump wins the presidency and yet another SC seat opens up in January, 2021, Democrats can tell him to fuck off and leave the seat open for 4 years until the next president is seated.
that must be 1 of your wet dreams...
Trump will nominate a moderate that Clinton put on the federal bench. Then what are Democratic Party crybabies going to do?
 

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Hoping everyone is getting ready. Fight back or die and don't let them ever convince you that your retaliation is you instigating. This will be against family members and friends. Our lives are and have been threatened over and over.

They aren't bluffing. Communism has killed 94 million and counting. You are their real target. They are flat out saying it and actually doing it.

There is a time for war and they have started it. Don't ever forget and don't let them convince you through their traitors in the media.

Get ready...
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans

What cooperation commie? It has to start before it can end.

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Democrats have always cooperated with Republicans, at least in their own view. Unfortunately, their view of cooperation is that Republicans give fifty percent while Democrats take fifty percent.
Democrats cooperated with George Bush
Republicans refused to cooperate with Obama and did not support a single piece of legislation
True. Kerry, Clinton, Edwards, Schumer and Biden all voted to go to war with Iraq.
They supported the President
Democrats also supported Bush on No Child left Behind, Medicare Part D, Afghanistan, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, TARP

Republicans refused to support Obama on anything
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
When were Democrats “cooperating” with Republicans in the past 4 years?
After 8 years of Republican gridlock under Obama, a new form of politics was in play.
Republicans had done nothing to earn cooperation, they didn’t get any
 

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What did Trump do? McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
:boo_hoo14:
Very True

Republicans won and there was nothing Democrat’s could do. Mitch McConnell trampled on years of Senate protocol and precedence to pack his court.

Stepped on a lot of toes and burnt all bridges of cooperation.

Democrats are in a mood to retaliate.
Packing the court and ending filibuster are likely retaliations
 

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I don’t think Biden supports packing the court and there are moderate Dem Senators who oppose it.

If the Conservative Court acts like a traditional court, I doubt Dems will try to add seats.

But if the Conservative Court becomes a rubber stamp for an extreme Conservative agenda, I think the Dems hand will be forced.

Let’s see how they rule on Obamacare and Roe
My take on the PRESENT supreme court is----they are not a bunch of reactionary NUTS. Obamacare
NEEDS modification and my impression is---beyond allowing organizations to OPT OUT of
financial support thereof for "religion" or
"spiritual" reasons-----nothing much is going to
happen to Roe v Wade. For the record----doctors should NOT be forced to do non medically indicated abortions and bakers should not be
FORCED to top wedding cakes with two gentleman. A professional has rights too.
 

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Elections have consequences.
If Trump wins and Republicans retain control of the Senate we can pack the court and Dems won't oppose it?
They will need the House also

If Dems take all three, why should they not use their power?
Because it would be stupid and appear to the centrists to be a open move to grasp political power at any cost. That would cost the Democrats in the next election in 2022.
You think appointing Barrett doesn't look like an open move to grasp political power?
It looks like another HUGE win for president Trump to me! :eusa_dance:
What did Trump do?

McConnell blocked Obama from filling seats and then packed the courts with young Conservatives
Didn't block anything. Just didn't call a vote. His right.
And it will be the Democrat's right to add more members to the court.
That is a horrible idea, no natter which side does it.
I can’t stress that enough.
McConnell blocking all those Obama appointments and leaving them for Trump to fill was a horrible idea. Now that your party set the precedent, it's a little late for you to start whining about what your party set in motion.
blah blah blah... hope you are enjoying the newest addition to the sc. im sure she will do a great job. enjoy
 

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Also, the dems, had they had the opportunity, would have done the exact same thing
Helps Republicans cover their guilt, but Democrats would not have done the same thing
Reid started this shit you idiot..........now it comes back to haunt you and you whine like bitches....

Enjoy your Karma.
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
When were Democrats “cooperating” with Republicans in the past 4 years?
After 8 years of Republican gridlock under Obama, a new form of politics was in play.
Republicans had done nothing to earn cooperation, they didn’t get any
all you scum of the demonrat party do is whine, whine, whine, when it dont go your way. thats real helpful. if that dont work, pig-lousy threatens, thats adult like. the biggest problem within your party is the douchebag pig-lousy. this twat thinks you owe it. as soon as this piece of garbage is disposed of, maybe the 2 could work together.
 

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Everything in life has Consequences

Those consequences could be adding judges to the court or ending the filibuster

Another consequence will be an end of cooperation with Republicans
When were Democrats “cooperating” with Republicans in the past 4 years?
After 8 years of Republican gridlock under Obama, a new form of politics was in play.
Republicans had done nothing to earn cooperation, they didn’t get any
8 years? Did you forget the Democrat majorities in the house and Senate in the first two? And, you also highlight the problem with Democrat thinking here...See, you think either we go along with what you want, or we don’t “earn” your respect....f that shit....How about you go along with us now? Or get bent.
 

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Democrats are in a mood to retaliate.
Packing the court and ending filibuster are likely retaliations
Your side already ended the fillbusters moron..........Your side started this.........And had you been in with these appointments you would have done it again.

Pardon me when we say up yours......NOT.
 
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