Sect. Mattis Resignation Letter:

[DandyDonovan]

Dear Mr. President:

I have been privileged to serve as our country's 26th Secretary of Defense which has allowed me to serve alongside our men and women of the Department in defense of our citizens and our ideals.

I am proud of the progress that has been made over the past two years on some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy: putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence.

Article continues after this message from our sponsor

NATIONAL SECURITY
Despite Remaining ISIS Threats, Pompeo Says U.S. Made 'Caliphate In Syria Go Away'
One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated that strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.


MIDDLE EAST
White House Orders Pentagon To Pull U.S. Troops From Syria
Similarly, I believe we must be resolute and unambiguous in our approach to those countries whose strategic interests are increasingly in tension with ours. It is clear that China and Russia, for example, want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model — gaining veto authority over other nations' economic, diplomatic, and security decisions — to promote their own interests at the expense of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why we must use all the tools of American power to provide for the common defense.

My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.


ANALYSIS
After U.S. Troops Leave Syria, What Happens Next?
Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position. The end date for my tenure is February 28, 2019, a date that should allow sufficient time for a successor to be nominated and confirmed as well as to make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected at upcoming events to include Congressional posture hearings and the NATO Defense Ministerial meeting in February. Further, that a full transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September in order to ensure stability within the Department.

I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that ensures the needs and interests of the 2.15 million Service Members and 732,079 DoD civilians receive undistracted attention of the Department at all times so that they can fulfill their critical, round-the-clock mission to protect the American people.

I very much appreciate this opportunity to serve the nation and our men and women in uniform.

James Mattis

READ: Defense Secretary Jim Mattis' Letter Announcing His Resignation

And this is how a dignified man acts when asked to something that he disagrees with. He resigns.

Doesn't mean he's right and Trump is wrong (and in fact that is irrelevant anyway, Trump is the boss, it just means that compare this to very disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates.

This is how adults handle disagreement. Liberals should take note.

"disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates"

I hope more American Patriots put their job on the line and stand up to orders from a President such as Trump, and put the law and our nation first.

When all is said and done, Ms. Yates may one day earn the medal of freedom, and it is well deserved.

One shit stain defends another. Big surprise

 

[BWK]

THIS whole thing is about 'isis' and leaving 'syria' to 'isis' . No mention of the 'turks' going after the 'kurds' in this thread so far is there BWK .

And when we leave Syria to ISIS, we leave our allies vulnerable.

THIS whole thing is about 'isis' and leaving 'syria' to 'isis' . No mention of the 'turks' going after the 'kurds' in this thread so far is there BWK .

So what do you think the OP was saying here then; My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances? Pulling out now while ISIS is still a threat, is no alliance to our allies. Like I said, Trump has other motivations.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I'll go with TRUMPS Decision and see what happens . Whats the worst that can happen in or to the USA Tommy ??

The Kurds, who supported us will be slaughtered. We are walking away from our allies. We will be isolationists, and that is counter to all our values.

Stop it with the "our values" nonsense. It's a weak argument made by dummies who can't argue a point. Well we should stay in a war derrp because of our values.........

So, tell us, why did we make a commitment to the Kurds to help them, to only pull out as they helped us ? Who or what are we? Have you folks lost your souls? Forget values. A Republicans word is worth shit. That's your value.

The US and the Kurds had common interest in defeating ISIS, but the US never signed on to help the Kurds establish a separate political entity in Syria or to fight Turkey, a NATO ally, to defend it. The Kurds will have to give up their hope of establishing a separate state and throw in with the Russian backed Assad forces to protect themselves against Turkey. The remnants of ISIS are seen as common enemy by Assad, Russia, Turkey and the Kurds, so while ISIS may never be completely eradicated, it will never become a major force in Syria again. Then the question must be asked, what would the US hope t
o accomplish by keeping our 2,000 troops in Syria?

I never said we signed on to help the Kurds fight Turkey. But isn't it quite the double cross for Turkey to tell Trump that they are going after the Kurds, after the Kurds helped us, and we suddenly pull out, just so Turkey can take out the Kurds? Just shows the world that we can't be trusted anywhere, and that we will sell out our allies, depending on which ally is the richest. It all comes down to money. Trump bowed to Turkey over the Kurds, in a hurry, after the threat that Turkey wanted to attack the Kurds. Meaning, even though there are a few thousand ISIS fighters left, business took precedence over security for the region. That's what really happened.

Business and wealth have nothing to do with the decision. The Turkish economy is in tatters and probably Erdogan's recent sabre rattling is for the purpose of drumming up political support for the next election in the shadow of a deteriorating economy. Turkey is important to the US because Incirlik air base is an important, perhaps irreplaceable asset and Turkey is a NATO ally. This means that a conflict with Turkey could have serious adverse effects on US national security interests in the ME,

The Kurds didn't help us, and they don't need us to provide them with security, they simply joined forces with us to defeat a common enemy, ISIS. Now that that battle is over, both the Kurds and the US will look out for their own interests. The Kurds can protect themselves by joining forces with Russian backed Assad forces, and the US will pursue its own interests which are no longer in Syria.

 

[pismoe]

Allies [humpf] --- hell , we were killing our allies during the Revolutionary War and the WAR of 1812 . Might end up killing them again sometime in the future if we have to BWK .

 

[BWK]

Dear Mr. President:

I have been privileged to serve as our country's 26th Secretary of Defense which has allowed me to serve alongside our men and women of the Department in defense of our citizens and our ideals.

I am proud of the progress that has been made over the past two years on some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy: putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence.

Article continues after this message from our sponsor

NATIONAL SECURITY
Despite Remaining ISIS Threats, Pompeo Says U.S. Made 'Caliphate In Syria Go Away'
One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated that strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.


MIDDLE EAST
White House Orders Pentagon To Pull U.S. Troops From Syria
Similarly, I believe we must be resolute and unambiguous in our approach to those countries whose strategic interests are increasingly in tension with ours. It is clear that China and Russia, for example, want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model — gaining veto authority over other nations' economic, diplomatic, and security decisions — to promote their own interests at the expense of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why we must use all the tools of American power to provide for the common defense.

My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.


ANALYSIS
After U.S. Troops Leave Syria, What Happens Next?
Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position. The end date for my tenure is February 28, 2019, a date that should allow sufficient time for a successor to be nominated and confirmed as well as to make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected at upcoming events to include Congressional posture hearings and the NATO Defense Ministerial meeting in February. Further, that a full transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September in order to ensure stability within the Department.

I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that ensures the needs and interests of the 2.15 million Service Members and 732,079 DoD civilians receive undistracted attention of the Department at all times so that they can fulfill their critical, round-the-clock mission to protect the American people.

I very much appreciate this opportunity to serve the nation and our men and women in uniform.

James Mattis

READ: Defense Secretary Jim Mattis' Letter Announcing His Resignation

And this is how a dignified man acts when asked to something that he disagrees with. He resigns.

Doesn't mean he's right and Trump is wrong (and in fact that is irrelevant anyway, Trump is the boss, it just means that compare this to very disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates.

This is how adults handle disagreement. Liberals should take note.

"disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates"

I hope more American Patriots put their job on the line and stand up to orders from a President such as Trump, and put the law and our nation first.

When all is said and done, Ms. Yates may one day earn the medal of freedom, and it is well deserved.

One shit stain defends another. Big surprise

Very interesting is this 1987 letter.

In it, Trump attacks Reagan's foreign policy in particular with references to Japan and Saudi Arabia(!). He does not name NATO as it would have been too unpopular at the time to do so.

Some have said that this came about as an effect of him being recruited by the KGB, as the timing is right after his trip to the Soviet Union.

In any case, Japan still claims some islands that were occupied by the Soviet Union, and Russia is the closest superpower Inat its borders, closer than China.

Mr. Mattis's letter does imply Trump treats NATO member states as enemies. I don't particularly support the elder Bush's war against Iraq, or his son's, but the participation of some NATO countries in those, as well as Afghanistan and Syria at the behest of the United States should offer NATO countries a full protection in recompense for their service; in other words using NATO for what it was meant for, protecting against a foreign invasion.

Not to go off-topic, but I also do not see Trump starting a war in Latin America. Venezuela is a strong Russian ally.

We already conquered Latin America; CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Really incomplete list, interventions started in the 19th century. Interesting link nonetheless.

Interventions are still ongoing today.Because it happened in the nineteenth century, is totally irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant, it's a long historical tradition.

Today's interventions are covert and not direct military interventions like Grenada and Panama. You can compare them, but it would be hard to call them equivalent to an invasion. Plus they occur in other places like Africa, sometimes with even soldiers sent, see Niger.

"Tradition"? Is that what they used to call their invasions of other smaller countries? A "tradition"?

Oh, and here is the best part. You don't even bother to defend these "traditions", lol. You just boast about other "traditions" some place else. Wow, aren't you a piece of work.

 

[xyz]

Dear Mr. President:

I have been privileged to serve as our country's 26th Secretary of Defense which has allowed me to serve alongside our men and women of the Department in defense of our citizens and our ideals.

I am proud of the progress that has been made over the past two years on some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy: putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence.

Article continues after this message from our sponsor

NATIONAL SECURITY
Despite Remaining ISIS Threats, Pompeo Says U.S. Made 'Caliphate In Syria Go Away'
One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated that strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.


MIDDLE EAST
White House Orders Pentagon To Pull U.S. Troops From Syria
Similarly, I believe we must be resolute and unambiguous in our approach to those countries whose strategic interests are increasingly in tension with ours. It is clear that China and Russia, for example, want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model — gaining veto authority over other nations' economic, diplomatic, and security decisions — to promote their own interests at the expense of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why we must use all the tools of American power to provide for the common defense.

My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.


ANALYSIS
After U.S. Troops Leave Syria, What Happens Next?
Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position. The end date for my tenure is February 28, 2019, a date that should allow sufficient time for a successor to be nominated and confirmed as well as to make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected at upcoming events to include Congressional posture hearings and the NATO Defense Ministerial meeting in February. Further, that a full transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September in order to ensure stability within the Department.

I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that ensures the needs and interests of the 2.15 million Service Members and 732,079 DoD civilians receive undistracted attention of the Department at all times so that they can fulfill their critical, round-the-clock mission to protect the American people.

I very much appreciate this opportunity to serve the nation and our men and women in uniform.

James Mattis

READ: Defense Secretary Jim Mattis' Letter Announcing His Resignation

And this is how a dignified man acts when asked to something that he disagrees with. He resigns.

Doesn't mean he's right and Trump is wrong (and in fact that is irrelevant anyway, Trump is the boss, it just means that compare this to very disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates.

This is how adults handle disagreement. Liberals should take note.

"disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates"

I hope more American Patriots put their job on the line and stand up to orders from a President such as Trump, and put the law and our nation first.

When all is said and done, Ms. Yates may one day earn the medal of freedom, and it is well deserved.

One shit stain defends another. Big surprise

Very interesting is this 1987 letter.

In it, Trump attacks Reagan's foreign policy in particular with references to Japan and Saudi Arabia(!). He does not name NATO as it would have been too unpopular at the time to do so.

Some have said that this came about as an effect of him being recruited by the KGB, as the timing is right after his trip to the Soviet Union.

In any case, Japan still claims some islands that were occupied by the Soviet Union, and Russia is the closest superpower Inat its borders, closer than China.

Mr. Mattis's letter does imply Trump treats NATO member states as enemies. I don't particularly support the elder Bush's war against Iraq, or his son's, but the participation of some NATO countries in those, as well as Afghanistan and Syria at the behest of the United States should offer NATO countries a full protection in recompense for their service; in other words using NATO for what it was meant for, protecting against a foreign invasion.

Not to go off-topic, but I also do not see Trump starting a war in Latin America. Venezuela is a strong Russian ally.

We already conquered Latin America; CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Really incomplete list, interventions started in the 19th century. Interesting link nonetheless.

Interventions are still ongoing today.Because it happened in the nineteenth century, is totally irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant, it's a long historical tradition.

Today's interventions are covert and not direct military interventions like Grenada and Panama. You can compare them, but it would be hard to call them equivalent to an invasion. Plus they occur in other places like Africa, sometimes with even soldiers sent, see Niger.

"Tradition"? Is that what they used to call their invasions of other smaller countries? A "tradition"?

Oh, and here is the best part. You don't even bother to defend these "traditions", lol. You just boast about other "traditions" some place else. Wow, aren't you a piece of work.

Why would I defend it? I didn't say I agree with them.

 

[sparky]

Yanno.....i kinda liked a dude nic'd 'Mad Dog Mattis' standing up to the muzzies , gonna miss him!


~S~

 

[BWK]

Allies [humpf] --- hell , we were killing our allies during the Revolutionary War and the WAR of 1812 . Might end up killing them again sometime in the future if we have to BWK .

You have to love the retarded minds of Republicans. They'll spout off anything at that moment, as long as it sounds good for them. Forget right or wrong, or what they may have committed to the day before. Forget principles, lies, or cheating. None of that is relevant to them. As a matter of fact, the Constitution or the rule of law has no meaning for them. Apparently it never has. There is an axis of evil in this country people, that is the Republican party. Unfortunately, if our Democracy is to survive, we will have to deal with this problem in a big way.

 

[pismoe]

we are a 'Constitutional Republic' and not a MOB Rule 'democracy' like you 'brits' BWK .

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I'll go with TRUMPS Decision and see what happens . Whats the worst that can happen in or to the USA Tommy ??

Another 9/11 ?

You don't believe that LOL

Could be worse, who knows ?
I would think that Mattis might know ?

But that's irrelevant. Trump is CinC, not Mattis. Elections have consequences. That Mattis understood this but you don't tells us everything.

I would put more value on Mattis opinion rather than Donnys.
You assert that Trump calls the shots and nobody is arguing that. But winning an election doesnt turn him into an expert on world affairs. Or are you saying he knows better than Mattis ?

 

[BWK]

Dear Mr. President:

I have been privileged to serve as our country's 26th Secretary of Defense which has allowed me to serve alongside our men and women of the Department in defense of our citizens and our ideals.

I am proud of the progress that has been made over the past two years on some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy: putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence.

Article continues after this message from our sponsor

NATIONAL SECURITY
Despite Remaining ISIS Threats, Pompeo Says U.S. Made 'Caliphate In Syria Go Away'
One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated that strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.


MIDDLE EAST
White House Orders Pentagon To Pull U.S. Troops From Syria
Similarly, I believe we must be resolute and unambiguous in our approach to those countries whose strategic interests are increasingly in tension with ours. It is clear that China and Russia, for example, want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model — gaining veto authority over other nations' economic, diplomatic, and security decisions — to promote their own interests at the expense of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why we must use all the tools of American power to provide for the common defense.

My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.


ANALYSIS
After U.S. Troops Leave Syria, What Happens Next?
Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position. The end date for my tenure is February 28, 2019, a date that should allow sufficient time for a successor to be nominated and confirmed as well as to make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected at upcoming events to include Congressional posture hearings and the NATO Defense Ministerial meeting in February. Further, that a full transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September in order to ensure stability within the Department.

I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that ensures the needs and interests of the 2.15 million Service Members and 732,079 DoD civilians receive undistracted attention of the Department at all times so that they can fulfill their critical, round-the-clock mission to protect the American people.

I very much appreciate this opportunity to serve the nation and our men and women in uniform.

James Mattis

READ: Defense Secretary Jim Mattis' Letter Announcing His Resignation

And this is how a dignified man acts when asked to something that he disagrees with. He resigns.

Doesn't mean he's right and Trump is wrong (and in fact that is irrelevant anyway, Trump is the boss, it just means that compare this to very disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates.

This is how adults handle disagreement. Liberals should take note.

"disgusting actions of a few other high ranking government officials who disagreed with an order given by the President, I'm thinking specifically of that shit stain Sally Yates"

I hope more American Patriots put their job on the line and stand up to orders from a President such as Trump, and put the law and our nation first.

When all is said and done, Ms. Yates may one day earn the medal of freedom, and it is well deserved.

One shit stain defends another. Big surprise

We already conquered Latin America; CIA in South America | Geopolitical Monitor

Really incomplete list, interventions started in the 19th century. Interesting link nonetheless.

Interventions are still ongoing today.Because it happened in the nineteenth century, is totally irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant, it's a long historical tradition.

Today's interventions are covert and not direct military interventions like Grenada and Panama. You can compare them, but it would be hard to call them equivalent to an invasion. Plus they occur in other places like Africa, sometimes with even soldiers sent, see Niger.

"Tradition"? Is that what they used to call their invasions of other smaller countries? A "tradition"?

Oh, and here is the best part. You don't even bother to defend these "traditions", lol. You just boast about other "traditions" some place else. Wow, aren't you a piece of work.

Why would I defend it? I didn't say I agree with them.

Because they are not "traditions". Far from it. We supply the weapons and the propaganda for the coup'e, then we reap the benefits. It's the perfect crime of an invasion without our troops. We promise the Oligarchs and the Dictators of these places the world, while we move in and rape the land of its resources and politics, leaving a path of poverty and despair for the people. And as a result, we are faced with a huge refugee problem at the border, while blaming the refugees. Now ain't that a hoot?

 

[pismoe]

I'll go with TRUMPS Decision and see what happens . Whats the worst that can happen in or to the USA Tommy ??

Another 9/11 ?

You don't believe that LOL

Could be worse, who knows ?
I would think that Mattis might know ?

But that's irrelevant. Trump is CinC, not Mattis. Elections have consequences. That Mattis understood this but you don't tells us everything.

I would put more value on Mattis opinion rather than Donnys.
You assert that Trump calls the shots and nobody is arguing that. But winning an election doesnt turn him into an expert on world affairs. Or are you saying he knows better than Mattis ?

---------------------------------------------- Trump MAY know better , whether he does or does't he can do as he like as CiC Tommy .

 

[pismoe]

illegal aliens have been a problem forever and
'reagan and bush' made things worse in 86 BWK . Last President any good on 'illegals' was IKE and that benefitted ME and my Generation but its coming to an end unless Trump fixes things BWK .

 

[BWK]

we are a 'Constitutional Republic' and not a MOB Rule 'democracy' like you 'brits' BWK .

I could give two shits what you call it. All I know is, Republicans aren't part of it. They are the party of lawlessness, and they have proven such. They have tossed our Constitution into the trash, and they are proud that their thug president is leading that charge.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Another 9/11 ?

You don't believe that LOL

Could be worse, who knows ?
I would think that Mattis might know ?

But that's irrelevant. Trump is CinC, not Mattis. Elections have consequences. That Mattis understood this but you don't tells us everything.

I would put more value on Mattis opinion rather than Donnys.
You assert that Trump calls the shots and nobody is arguing that. But winning an election doesnt turn him into an expert on world affairs. Or are you saying he knows better than Mattis ?

---------------------------------------------- Trump MAY know better , whether he does or does't he can do as he like as CiC Tommy .

You are making the same point. So I will ask you if you think Trump is a better judge than Mattis.

 

[BWK]

illegal aliens have been a problem forever and
'reagan and bush' made things worse in 86 BWK . Last President any good on 'illegals' was IKE and that benefitted ME and my Generation but its coming to an end unless Trump fixes things BWK .

Illegal aliens would have never been a problem if it hadn't been for the link I posted. We are the problem, not the illegals. Anyone with a functioning brain who can read my link can see that. Until we give the people their countries back, illegals will continue to be the symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. We must admit that we took their lives from them, and stop blaming them for what we did.

 

[pismoe]

as i tell everyone , illegals are mostly a problem for YOU youngers and kids , grandkids . As i said in an earliers post in this thread , IKE and my parents with their vote for IKE did a good job for me and my Generation BWK .

 

[BWK]

illegal aliens have been a problem forever and
'reagan and bush' made things worse in 86 BWK . Last President any good on 'illegals' was IKE and that benefitted ME and my Generation but its coming to an end unless Trump fixes things BWK .

Illegal aliens would have never been a problem if it hadn't been for the link I posted. We are the problem, not the illegals. Anyone with a functioning brain who can read my link can see that. Until we give the people their countries back, illegals will continue to be the symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. We must admit that we took their lives from them, and stop blaming them for what we did.

Funny face is all you got? I can put those up to, but I'm not a coward. I choose to face up to the truth, not run from it. Hope you enjoy your laugh, because you are nothing more than a coward, as all the rest who can't face the truth.

 

[pismoe]

You don't believe that LOL

Could be worse, who knows ?
I would think that Mattis might know ?

But that's irrelevant. Trump is CinC, not Mattis. Elections have consequences. That Mattis understood this but you don't tells us everything.

I would put more value on Mattis opinion rather than Donnys.
You assert that Trump calls the shots and nobody is arguing that. But winning an election doesnt turn him into an expert on world affairs. Or are you saying he knows better than Mattis ?

---------------------------------------------- Trump MAY know better , whether he does or does't he can do as he like as CiC Tommy .

You are making the same point. So I will ask you if you think Trump is a better judge than Mattis.

--------------------------------- don't know but looks like we may see Tommy .

 

[pismoe]

illegal aliens have been a problem forever and
'reagan and bush' made things worse in 86 BWK . Last President any good on 'illegals' was IKE and that benefitted ME and my Generation but its coming to an end unless Trump fixes things BWK .

Illegal aliens would have never been a problem if it hadn't been for the link I posted. We are the problem, not the illegals. Anyone with a functioning brain who can read my link can see that. Until we give the people their countries back, illegals will continue to be the symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. We must admit that we took their lives from them, and stop blaming them for what we did.

--------------------------------------- not going to happen in my lifetime . Might happen in yours though BWK ,