SCOTUS Declines To Hear Case Granting Fetal Personhood Rights

[Stann]

Well maybe you Dems should work with Republicans instead of just trying to ram your shit that no one likes down America’s throat.

Actually most Americans support the Democratic goals.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Non-humans do not have rights.

Just wars, defensive wars, are sometimes necessary to defend rights.

Executing those guilty of murder is justice which affirms the right to life very strongly.

Sorry you don't understand this most basic concept and choose to spew nonsense about your most fundamental and obvious right as a human being.

This isn't about rights. It's about wording.

People say they're "pro-life", "life" is the important word. What they want to say is anti-abortion because quite frankly they couldn't give a damn about any other life.

You can try and justify things, it doesn't change the reality that a person who is actually pro-life would not support executions even if they could justify them

That you have to use terms like "spew nonsense" when you're way off track....

 

[theHawk]

Actually most Americans support the Democratic goals.

LOL. Democratic goals?


Open borders & white replacement.
Continue to export jobs to China.
Support every war the Military Industrial Complex wants.
Abortion on demand up to 9 months.
Cash free bail and freed criminal thugs & sky high crime.
Fully support pro-homosexuality LGBTQ Agenda.
Fully support trannies in girls bathrooms and sports.
Fully support anti-American, anti-white racism and CRT.
Fully support corrupt and stolen elections.
Fully support Big Tech censorship of conservatives.
Fully support Big Pharma with no questions asked.

Yea sure.

 

[Stann]

LOL. Democratic goals?


Open borders & white replacement.
Continue to export jobs to China.
Support every war the Military Industrial Complex wants.
Abortion on demand up to 9 months.
Cash free bail and freed criminal thugs & sky high crime.
Fully support pro-homosexuality LGBTQ Agenda.
Fully support trannies in girls bathrooms and sports.
Fully support anti-American, anti-white racism and CRT.
Fully support corrupt and stolen elections.
Fully support Big Tech censorship of conservatives.
Fully support Big Pharma with no questions asked.

Yea sure.

Social programs, labor unions, consumer protection, workplace safety regulations, equal opportunity, disability Rights, racial equality, gay rights, women's reproductive Rights, environmental protections in criminal justice reform. We do support the police but do not support a police state. We support lower taxes for everyone but the right of the wealthy and corporations to pay no taxes is not logical at all. These are only a few of the things I could think of. Let's talk about Republicans now, they want lower taxes, they are trying to defund social programs, they want deregulation for corporations at the expense of Labor and the citizens of this nation and the environment. Even put restrictions on labor unions. And of course all their tax policies favor the rich. You see the difference here. Democrats are for the people, they are not just for the rich.

 

[Stann]

You're comparing organ donation to feeding and sheltering your kid. Pregnancy is not organ donation. Pregnancy is basic essential parental care.

This is one of the many dumb things you pro-aborts do.

It impresses no one. It fools no one.

You are a fool if you think anyone is pro abortion. Abortion is the last resort when all else has failed. No one is pro-abortion. Most people agree more abortion is an issue best decided by the woman involved and her doctor. It's an egregious overreach or any government or courts to interfere with that medical decision.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Actually most Americans support the Democratic goals.

Run up the numbers all you like in California and New York. Thankfully, we’re not a democracy.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

We were talking LIFE and that being paramount.

The right to life.

And actually, we weren’t even talking about the right to life being PARAMOUNT, just the ONLY possible relevant right at all to this topic…

… since you will NEVER have any “right” to attack and kill a helpless innocent human being, any of them, let alone your own kid. Such a “right” is absurd and directly violates the aforementioned fundamental natural human right.

And here the text boxes broke, but I’m not redoing all that.

“Part of a parents job is taking care of the child’s health.”
Sure, you shouldn’t neglect their well-being.

“Healthcare is part of sheltering and nurturing and certainly expected of a parent.”
Healthcare is a service and if you have the resources and your kid has the need of those services then in most cases yeah, you should hire them.

“You've stated there is no right to bodily autonomy where life is concerned.”

“Where life is concerned?” No.
I have stated that there is no “right to abortion,” which is all you people mean when you say that nonsense phrase which has no legal meaning in the United States. There is no such right.

“This is clearcut. Your child will die if you don't give it your kidney. If you don't want to, tough shit, the state will mandate it.”

Your kidney is your property and you do not have to bequeath it to anyone, even upon your death you do not have to be an organ donor.

And this is where you think you have accomplished something. You throw up your hands in joy or fist pump or something. But why?

Pregnancy is not organ donation. Pregnancy is not the loss of your property unless you try to consider the loss of some calories and oxygen through placental exchange to somehow be “theft,” or their location to be “trespassing,” even though you created them, you put them exactly there in their dependent state through your own deliberate or neglectful action, and you are now responsible for providing their basic necessities.

Nowhere in any way does a right to life compel organ donation. In no rational way does pregnancy compare to an organ donation. It doesn’t even compare to a blood donation. It is just feeding and sheltering your damn kid.

Somehow I think this isn’t the “GOTTEM” you were hoping for, but I think you’ll just keep repeating yourself.

Perhaps you’ll say “oh, that’s all we mean by ‘bodily autonomy,’ we respect property rights and you own yourself.”

And then I will call bullshit. We will see through other examples how this is patently untrue. If you call healthcare services a “right” or education services a “right” or support food stamps or welfare or any number of other coerced charity, we’ll see how much you respect property. While we’re at it if you support mandating people take vaccines they don’t want, that’s a great one for “bodily autonomy.”

I believe you own yourself. I will never use your nonsense Canadian phrase with all its baggage and it’s clear euphemistic role.

Owning yourself will never justify killing someone else who isn’t doing anything wrong. If someone literally tries to attack you and abduct you, then you can shoot them, affirming your rights to life, liberty, and arguably property.

Comparing the situation of pregnancy to that would be irrational beyond the pale.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

People say they're "pro-life", "life" is the important word.

Yes, the natural human right to life. The basis for laws against attacking you and harming you, especially laws against killing you.

What they want to say is anti-abortion because quite frankly they couldn't give a damn about any other life.

I don’t know if you have noticed, but there are already laws against killing born humans, asshat.

Kind of severe ones, harsh penalties. Now granted, leftoids like to push for parole and rehabilitation and no cash bail policies and defunding the police and all that, but your camp’s undermining of this most basic and essential role of government doesn’t mean that it isn’t performing it.

You can try and justify things, it doesn't change the reality that a person who is actually pro-life would not support executions even if they could justify them

Killing someone who kills others after their conviction through due process in a court of law doesn’t, as a just punishment, does not violate the right to life. Punishing murderers affirms the right to life.

If you think it somehow violates the right to life for the state to execute a murderer, then you MUST also think that prison violates their right to liberty, and thus anyone who believes in liberty cannot support prisons.

And you would also think that any fines any court may issue for anything down to a speeding ticket violate the right to property, and … well, you’re probably a leftist so you’re fine with the government taking everyone’s money for any reason, but same deal as life or liberty above for anyone who isn’t like that.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

You are a fool if you think anyone is pro abortion.

You are a particularly deranged and radical pro-abort, pro-abort.

Abortion is the last resort when all else has failed.

Oh shut up. You have made it plain you want it used as a first resort to kill any human with a disability. You think that it is “selfish” to provide for such a kid and not just kill them and walk away from your parental responsibility.

You’re horrific, and you’ve already disarmed yourself from any chance of ever making any such argument, now or ever again.

No one is pro-abortion.

I love freedom of choice, pro-abort. You leftwing nutjobs sure as hell do not. But one thing is clear, you are in favor of the human rights abuse of legal abortion.

It's an egregious overreach or any government or courts to interfere with that medical decision.

It’s egregious for filth like you to call hiring a contract killer to kill your kid for the sake of your own convenience or your pocketbook a “medical decision” or to call the contract killer in question a “doctor” or to call maliciously killing a human being for money “healthcare.”

Primum non nocere.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, the natural human right to life. The basis for laws against attacking you and harming you, especially laws against killing you.

I don’t know if you have noticed, but there are already laws against killing born humans, asshat.

Kind of severe ones, harsh penalties. Now granted, leftoids like to push for parole and rehabilitation and no cash bail policies and defunding the police and all that, but your camp’s undermining of this most basic and essential role of government doesn’t mean that it isn’t performing it.


Killing someone who kills others after their conviction through due process in a court of law doesn’t, as a just punishment, does not violate the right to life. Punishing murderers affirms the right to life.

If you think it somehow violates the right to life for the state to execute a murderer, then you MUST also think that prison violates their right to liberty, and thus anyone who believes in liberty cannot support prisons.

And you would also think that any fines any court may issue for anything down to a speeding ticket violate the right to property, and … well, you’re probably a leftist so you’re fine with the government taking everyone’s money for any reason, but same deal as life or liberty above for anyone who isn’t like that.

Ah, insults.

Welcome to the ignore list.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Ah, insults.

Welcome to the ignore list.

Cool story. No argument, no rebuttal, so you lose.

You say we “don’t give a damn about life,” and I proved otherwise. And yeah, when the right to life and non-aggression is someone’s core argument and belief, and you say they don’t believe it, then they are going to push back. Feel free to cry about it.

You’ll just keep saying this stupid, obviously wrong thing, wholly content in your vindictive, willful ignorance and stupidity.

And I’ll keep correcting it whether you read it or not, because it is stupid and wrong.

 

[Flash]

So does that mean the Moon Bats now love the Supreme Court and are not planning on killing some of them?

 

[Stann]

Run up the numbers all you like in California and New York. Thankfully, we’re not a democracy.

You are a real idiot. We are the world's leading democracy. Yes, we have a Republic form of government but it is based on the ideals of democracy. Thus we are a democracy.

 

[ClaireH]

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[CarsomyrPlusSix]

You are a real idiot. We are the world's leading democracy. Yes, we have a Republic form of government but it is based on the ideals of democracy. Thus we are a democracy.

And you are a trashy inhuman eugenicist monster as well as a fucktard, but who is judging?

We have a constitutional republic. So it doesn’t matter how far you run up the popular vote in NY and CA. And that’s a good thing.

 

[Stann]

And you are a trashy inhuman eugenicist monster as well as a fucktard, but who is judging?

We have a constitutional republic. So it doesn’t matter how far you run up the popular vote in NY and CA. And that’s a good thing.

My, my, you do have a potty mouth and you believe you're a Christian or something. Does your mommy know you're on this site posting this garbage. God knows.

 

[Stann]

And you are a trashy inhuman eugenicist monster as well as a fucktard, but who is judging?

We have a constitutional republic. So it doesn’t matter how far you run up the popular vote in NY and CA. And that’s a good thing.

I'm sorry you can't comprehend yes it's a constitutional republic but it's based on the principles of democracy and equality under the law. Do you believe that it's based on fascism or socialism or communism. No it's based on Democratic principles.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

My, my, you do have a potty mouth and you believe you're a Christian or something. Does your mommy know you're on this site posting this garbage. God knows.

I have never said I was a Christian, fucktard. If you could read you could note that I have said quite early and often that I have no religion.

 

[Stann]

I have never said I was a Christian, fucktard. If you could read you could note that I have said quite early and often that I have no religion.

So what's the reason you're so whacked out.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

So what's the reason you're so whacked out.

Perhaps you think the sane are whacked out because you are just that fucked in the head, eugenicist monster?