Trump’s NY criminal case sentencing headed to SCOTUS

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This case has nothing to do with Presidential immunity, and the Court will not grant certiorari in this instance.

If the case comes up later on substantive grounds, the USSC will toss out the conviction.

Yet you couldn't argue why if your life depended on it.

 

[para bellum]

The SCOTUS should grant the stay until the interlocutory appeal is resolved. If the NY Court of Appeals does not declare a mistrial, the appeal can go to the SCOTUS.

All proceedings have to be halted until that appeal is resolved. That is the normal procedure for interlocutory appeals, and this case should not be an exception.

The trial court admits that testimony and evidence was used in the trial that should have been excluded based on Presidential immunity. Merchan's judgement that it did not have a material effect on the outcome is specious. The exclusion is categorical- it is not something that can be decided on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Dante]

Trump asks Supreme Court to block his criminal hush money sentencing — ABC News

The president-elect has also asked New York's highest court to pause the case.

apple.news

Here is the question. How do you foresee the SCOTUS ruling?

Not a poll. Just some range of possible options.

• They will stay the sentencing while they consider Trump’s motion. OR

• They will decline to deny Judge Merchan the absolute lotto sentence Trump but will, instead, require a sentencing (and thus an entry of judgment) to complete the record on appeal. Then, later on, they will decide the bigger issue: whether, in light of their ruling on Presidential immunity, the “conviction” should be reversed and the case dismissed. OR
• 
  
• Some other ruling.

a few expected options were left out.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The SCOTUS should grant the stay until the interlocutory appeal is resolved. If the NY Court of Appeals does not declare a mistrial, the appeal can go to the SCOTUS.

All proceedings have to be halted until that appeal is resolved. That is the normal procedure for interlocutory appeals, and this case should not be an exception.

The trial court admits that testimony and evidence was used in the trial that should have been excluded based on Presidential immunity. Merchan's judgement that it did not have a material effect on the outcome is specious. The exclusion is categorical- it is not something that can be decided on a case-by-case basis.

The SCOTUS would have no reason to hear that appeal. No reason whatsoever. Keep dreaming.

 

[BackAgain]

a few expected options were left out.

Lots were. Which is why I said:

• “Some other ruling.”

 

[Dante]

Lots were. Which is why I said:

• “Some other ruling.”

tired of winning yet?

generic welsher type of addition to a list. Cover all bases while not actually doing or saying anything. LOL

 

[BackAgain]

tired of winning yet?

generic welsher type of addition to a list. Cover all bases while not actually doing or saying anything. LOL

Ah. More pure trolling from the dainty.

If you weren’t such a lazy waste of oxygen, you’d even have noticed that I correctly predicted how they would rule.

Your fail is eternal, the dainty.

 

[Dante]

Ah. More pure trolling from the dainty.

If you weren’t such a lazy waste of oxygen, you’d even have noticed that I correctly predicted how they would rule.

Your fail is eternal, the dainty.

Nope. You did not.

link?

I could have missed it -- you doing so. I don't follow you around like you do to me.

 

[meaner gene]

Trump asks Supreme Court to block his criminal hush money sentencing — ABC News

The president-elect has also asked New York's highest court to pause the case.

apple.news

Here is the question. How do you foresee the SCOTUS ruling?

Not a poll. Just some range of possible options.

• They will stay the sentencing while they consider Trump’s motion. OR

• They will decline to deny Judge Merchan the absolute lotto sentence Trump but will, instead, require a sentencing (and thus an entry of judgment) to complete the record on appeal. Then, later on, they will decide the bigger issue: whether, in light of their ruling on Presidential immunity, the “conviction” should be reversed and the case dismissed. OR
• 
  
• Some other ruling.

Even after Trump personally talked to Judge Alito, the supreme court will allow the inauguration of a CONVICTED FELON.

 

[meaner gene]

Lots were. Which is why I said:

• “Some other ruling.”

You're right. You got the supreme courts actions correct because they picked "none of the above".

 

[meaner gene]

Nope. You did not.

link?

I could have missed it -- you doing so. I don't follow you around like you do to me.

The correct answer was "D" none of the above.

 

[BackAgain]

Nope. You did not.

link?

I could have missed it -- you doing so. I don't follow you around like you do to me.

I certainly don’t follow you around. I do respond to much of your idiocy, however, when your slime trail crosses my path.

Truth be told, you follow me around just to do your stale troll thing.

Anyway, you missed it.

Go back and read the first few posts after the OP. Even you can find it.

 

[Dante]

Personally, my guess is that they will permit the sentencing to proceed. They value things like making a COMPLETE “record” before dealing with any such matter.

Her bias can be overruled, however, by the full court.

So her expected decision to deny Trump’s application can be promptly scuttled by the full Court.

The bottom line — in my estimation — is this:

The case will proceed to sentencing. Merchan (via the court clerk) will then enter the judgment of conviction and sentence.

It will be appealed. Within the hostile political confines of NY, the appeals will fail. Then, the conviction goes back to SCOTUS, on a complete record.

I suppose the predictions for how SCOTUS will then deal with Bragg’s legal fiasco remains a matter of some other thread. But if and when SCOTUS takes the appeal, and I think that they will take the case, everyone will finally see why Bragg’s indictment was invalid.

good gawd...

what a salad your words can make

 

[BackAgain]

good gawd...

what a salad your words can make

Yeah. You’re severely limited in your ability to read the Dick and Jane kiddie books.

I somehow knew in advance that you’d come back without just honestly admitting that you were wrong yet again.

 

[meaner gene]

good gawd...

what a salad your words can make

Another important point. Is there is no "urgency" to settle the matter right away, since no fines or punishments were imposed. So really, unlike somebody sitting in jail or out on bail, there is no "need for speed".

And the case will wind its way through the federal courts at the usual snail like pace.

 

[meaner gene]

Yeah. You’re severely limited in your ability to read the Dick and Jane kiddie books.

I somehow knew in advance that you’d come back without just honestly admitting that you were wrong yet again.

You said the supreme court would take the case.
But you didn't venture a time frame when that will happen?
How long before the Supreme Court even gets the case?
If at all.

 

[Dante]

Yeah. You’re severely limited in your ability to read the Dick and Jane kiddie books.

I somehow knew in advance that you’d come back without just honestly admitting that you were wrong yet again.

thank you

 

[Dante]

You said the supreme court would take the case.
But you didn't venture a time frame when that will happen?
How long before the Supreme Court even gets the case?
If at all.

HE'll quibble

 

[para bellum]

And the case will wind its way through the federal courts at the usual snail like pace.

You said the supreme court would take the case.
But you didn't venture a time frame when that will happen?
How long before the Supreme Court even gets the case?
If at all.

The case is not in Federal court, it is in NY State court.

If it goes to the SCOTUS, it will only be after the NY courts have heard the appeal, and there is no way to predict how long that will take.

Years, not months. Weinstein was convicted in 2020, and it wasn't reversed by the appeals court until 2024.

 

[BackAgain]

thank you