"Science Without Religion Is Lame"

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1. Actually, the full quotation is "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
A very smart man said that.

.... without the morality prescribed by religion, despised under communism and its spin-offs, whoever is in charge of the government makes up their 'morality.'



2. "Is there a moral difference between the Nazi doctor (the white coat, the black boots, the pellets of Zyklon B) and the blood-bespattered interrogator in the penalty camp of Orotukan ["...every tent in the settlement was surrounded with piles of frozen corpses...]? The Nazi doctors participated not only in experiments and ‘selections'. They supervised all stages of the killing process. Indeed, the Nazi vision was in essence a biomedical vision."
Martin Amis, "Koba The Dread"

a. " Pointing to the chimneys in the distance, [Dr Ella Lingens-Reiner] asked a Nazi doctor, Fritz Klein, ‘How can you reconcile that with your oath as a doctor?' His answer was, ‘Of course I am a doctor and I want to preserve life. And out of respect for human life, I would remove a gangrenous appendix from a diseased body. The Jew is the gangrenous appendix in the body of mankind.'"
"The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide," by Robert Jay Lifton




3. No matter whether Nazi, Communist, Liberal, Progressive, Socialist or Fascist, ... Every totalitarian government operates under Leon Trotsky's motto:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."


4. Of course, the state can pretend that said human life is in the hands of the owner of that life, and that individual can decide when to end it.....
Several 'advanced' nations have legislated 'right' for some scientists, i.e., doctors, to 'help' those who decide to end their lives.

Euthanasia.

...but putting that view in the hands of the state is merely an obfuscation. It quickly becomes one more on the list with abortion, harvesting organs, eugenics, and other ways of disposing of human beings,



"Science Without Religion Is Lame"
 
The sanctity of life, Better make sure that you clarify that usage and tell the folks you Christians mean the ,"sanctity of human life". because we know that the phrase does not mean animals are included...Yet we have seen the church align itself with the worst of enlightened despots, and do not tell it's congregation that war is not part of being a Christian, because the church expected the peasants to die for the glory of the nation..Monarchs were just as bad as communist...
 
Several 'advanced' nations have legislated 'right' for some scientists, i.e., doctors, to 'help' those who decide to end their lives.


Euthanasia.

Let's see what actually happens when the state....the Leftist state, the 'Liberal' government, finds a way to destroy human lives.....


5. “The Dutch survey, reviewed in the Journal of Medical Ethics, looked at the figures for 1995 and found that as well as 3,600 authorized cases there were 900 others in which doctors had acted without explicit consent…. they thought they were acting in the patient's best interests.” Involuntary Euthanasia is Out of Control in Holland


a. "Euthanasia, as Dr. Peggy Norris observed with some asperity, "cannot be controlled." If this is so, why is Harris so sure that stem-cell research can be controlled? And if it cannot be controlled, just what is irrational about religious objections to social policies that when they reach the bottom of the slippery slope are bound to embody something Dutch, degraded, and disgusting? How many scientific atheists, I wonder, propose to spend their old age in Holland?"
Berlinski, "The Devil's Delusion"


Euthenasia....just one more episode akin to the Eugenics programs of earlier Progressives, the programs they taught to Hitler's Nazis.




There is no morality in science.

Only rationalizations.
 
Euthenasia is a voluntary condition..It has nothing to do with eugenics..You know, like rich folks that can't have kids because of medical problems and the try vitro fertilization, but they wan the sperm from a the best stock in humans...
The God in the Old Testament does his fair share of killing, murdering and making children suffer....
 
The sanctity of life, Better make sure that you clarify that usage and tell the folks you Christians mean the ,"sanctity of human life". because we know that the phrase does not mean animals are included...Yet we have seen the church align itself with the worst of enlightened despots, and do not tell it's congregation that war is not part of being a Christian, because the church expected the peasants to die for the glory of the nation..Monarchs were just as bad as communist...


1. "Better make sure that you clarify that usage and tell the folks you Christians..."
Can you find any post of mine....out of thousands,....where I have identified my religion?
I could be a Druid.....I do look good in blue.

My posts are always substantiated, and stand on their own, without reference to me.


2. "Monarchs were just as bad as communist..."
An absurd statement, equivalent to the hyperbole of a teenage girl....
Can you name any Monarch who slaughtered over 100 million of his/her own citizens?


Why do you dolts constantly rush to excuse and mitigate the worst political doctrine in history?

Why?
 
The sanctity of life, Better make sure that you clarify that usage and tell the folks you Christians mean the ,"sanctity of human life". because we know that the phrase does not mean animals are included...Yet we have seen the church align itself with the worst of enlightened despots, and do not tell it's congregation that war is not part of being a Christian, because the church expected the peasants to die for the glory of the nation..Monarchs were just as bad as communist...


1. "Better make sure that you clarify that usage and tell the folks you Christians..."
Can you find any post of mine....out of thousands,....where I have identified my religion?
I could be a Druid.....I do look good in blue.

My posts are always substantiated, and stand on their own, without reference to me.


2. "Monarchs were just as bad as communist..."
An absurd statement, equivalent to the hyperbole of a teenage girl....
Can you name any Monarch who slaughtered over 100 million of his/her own citizens?


Why do you dolts constantly rush to excuse and mitigate the worst political doctrine in history?

Why?
Since the industrial age, populations have increased a hundred fold, yet as a percentage I can tell you that the Mongols, the constant European wars killed the same percentage..Even if it is just one death, it negates the serene bond you have with other forms of govt's which commit crimes against humanity..Christianity or any religion any preaches love is guilty by association when they align themselves with the men in power to hold their social position....And you wonder why France, Russia and China became anti-clerical...it is because of the gross negligence in the church's alliance with these despots....The same alliance as science made with despots..

Yet the Nazi's were Christians..The German people were majority Christian....Adolph Hitler was a christian...
Stalin was raised to be a priest by his Father, yet we see how these people turned out....They are no better than the Asian versions.....
 
Euthenasia is a voluntary condition..It has nothing to do with eugenics..You know, like rich folks that can't have kids because of medical problems and the try vitro fertilization, but they wan the sperm from a the best stock in humans...
The God in the Old Testament does his fair share of killing, murdering and making children suffer....


"Euthenasia (sic) is a voluntary condition."


Doesn't it bother you that you are never correct?


5. “The Dutch survey, reviewed in the Journal of Medical Ethics, looked at the figures for 1995 and found that as well as 3,600 authorized cases there were 900 others in which doctors had acted without explicit consent…. they thought they were acting in the patient's best interests.” Involuntary Euthanasia is Out of Control in Holland



a. "Euthanasia, as Dr. Peggy Norris observed with some asperity, "cannot be controlled." If this is so, why is Harris so sure that stem-cell research can be controlled? And if it cannot be controlled, just what is irrational about religious objections to social policies that when they reach the bottom of the slippery slope are bound to embody something Dutch, degraded, and disgusting? How many scientific atheists, I wonder, propose to spend their old age in Holland?"
Berlinski, "The Devil's Delusion"


The number of mentally ill people who have been killed through euthanasia in the Netherlands has trebled in a single year, according to new figures.
The Daily Mail reports that in 2012, 14 people with "severe psychiatric problems" were killed by lethal injection, a figure that rose to 42 in 2013.

There had also been a 15 percent overall rise in assisted dying over the past year, with the number of cases increasing from 4,188 to 4,829.

Deaths from euthanasia have risen by a total of 151 percent in a period of just seven years, with most cases involving cancer sufferers. However, there were also 97 people who were killed by their doctors because they had dementia.

The figures do not include "terminal sedation", where the patient is sedated and then has food and fluids withdrawn. If they did, however, euthanasia would account for one in eight of all deaths in the Netherlands.

Dr Peter Saunders of the Christian Medical Fellowship told the Daily Mail that euthanasia in the Netherlands is "way out of control", saying that it proves that assisted dying is impossible to regulate.

"What we are seeing in the Netherlands is 'incremental extension', the steady intentional escalation of numbers with a gradual widening of the categories of patients to be included.

"The lessons are clear. Once you relax the law on euthanasia or assisted suicide steady extension will follow as night follows day."
Assisted Suicide 'Out of Control' in Netherlands - Breitbart




Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks



It is as I have posted.
 
5. “The Dutch survey, reviewed in the Journal of Medical Ethics, looked at the figures for 1995 and found that as well as 3,600 authorized cases there were 900 others in which doctors had acted without explicit consent…. they thought they were acting in the patient's best interests.” Involuntary Euthanasia is Out of Control in Holland

That is considered murder in my eyes..or eugenics..
 
5. “The Dutch survey, reviewed in the Journal of Medical Ethics, looked at the figures for 1995 and found that as well as 3,600 authorized cases there were 900 others in which doctors had acted without explicit consent…. they thought they were acting in the patient's best interests.” Involuntary Euthanasia is Out of Control in Holland

That is considered murder in my eyes..or eugenics..


Murder.

Exactly as I stated.
 
Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks

Are you trying to turn me on, 'cause it ain't working...


Are you stating that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.” turns you on????

You must be a Liberal, huh?
 
Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks

Are you trying to turn me on, 'cause it ain't working...


Are you stating that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.” turns you on????

You must be a Liberal, huh?
You must be a conservative to imagine as such..Only a sick twisted mind would try to throw anyone down that hole...
 
Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks

Are you trying to turn me on, 'cause it ain't working...


Are you stating that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.” turns you on????

You must be a Liberal, huh?
You must be a conservative to imagine as such..Only a sick twisted mind would try to throw anyone down that hole...


Barack Obama chose this homicidal maniac as his adviser.

Hence, Liberal governance favors infanticide and euthanasia.

Articulate any problem you have with this fact.
 
Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks

Are you trying to turn me on, 'cause it ain't working...


Are you stating that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.” turns you on????

You must be a Liberal, huh?
You must be a conservative to imagine as such..Only a sick twisted mind would try to throw anyone down that hole...


Barack Obama chose this homicidal maniac as his adviser.

Hence, Liberal governance favors infanticide and euthanasia.

Articulate any problem you have with this fact.
Really? Since you are Asian, you are guilty of any crimes committed by an Asian leader...
 
6. "Despite the immense ideological power that the American scientific establishment wields, it still resents the stature of organized religion. On crucial matters of faith and morals, which loom so large in the lives of most individuals, they take a back seat. Members of the National Academy of Sciences are by a large majority persuaded that there is no God; men and women by the millions that there is.


7. But, today, there are scientists who shout from the rooftops, ‘Scientific and religious belief are in conflict. They cannot both be right. Let us get rid of the one that is wrong!’ And, not just tolerated, today they are admired. It is a veritable orgy of competitive skepticism- but a skepticism supposedly built of science.

Physicist Victor Stengler and Taner Edis have both published books championing atheism. Both men exhibit the salient characteristic of physicists endeavoring to draw general lessons about the cosmos from mathematical physics: They are willing to believe anything.


In 2007, physicists Steven Weinberg addressed the “Beyond Belief: Science, Religion, Reason, and Survival” conference. This Nobel Prize winner claimed “Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.” He was warmly applauded.


What was the religious provenance of poison gas, barbed wire, high explosives, experiments in eugenics, Zyklon B, heavy artillery, napalm, nuclear weapons?"



The above from "The Devil's Delusion," by David Berlinski
 
Of course, Barack Obama's Health Adviser, Philip Singer, goes even further.

In his 1993 essay “Taking Life,” Singer, in a section called “Justifying Infanticide and Non-Voluntary Euthanasia,” wrote that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.”
Campus president condemns Coulter event, silent as professor who calls sex with animals potentially ‘satisfying’ speaks

Are you trying to turn me on, 'cause it ain't working...


Are you stating that “killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.” turns you on????

You must be a Liberal, huh?
You must be a conservative to imagine as such..Only a sick twisted mind would try to throw anyone down that hole...


Barack Obama chose this homicidal maniac as his adviser.

Hence, Liberal governance favors infanticide and euthanasia.

Articulate any problem you have with this fact.
Really? Since you are Asian, you are guilty of any crimes committed by an Asian leader...



In order for your post to be anything but an attempt to avoid the contumely you so rightly deserve, you must imagine that "Liberal" is a race.


Do you?
 

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