If the universe popping into existence from nothing doesn't do that, I doubt anything will. For me it began with a notional belief, after that my experiences removed all doubt.(O-1) I have not seen any evidence that is sufficient to satisfy an unprejudiced mind seeking the truth or fact.
The argument goes that whatever existed before our space and time that was responsible for creating our space and time from nothing could not be matter and energy. So, through process of elimination no thing existed before space and time and created space and time. Spirit is no thing.(O-2) How could we even possibly know what existed before space and time? (RHETORICAL) We do not even know if there is such a thing as "before space and time."
Yes, consciousness, the laws of nature, truth, logic, love, music, science, math, etc. You can't put your hands on them. You can't touch them. You can only infer they exist.Is there such a thing as "nothing?"
Consciousness without form. Who are you to say it doesn't exist?IF there is such a condition of "nothing" THEN what could it create? Is "nothing" a state of being that can independently create something?"
Consciousness without form. Who are you to say it doesn't exist?What is a "spirit?" Is a "spirit" an entity? Is a "spirit" a non-entity? Is a "spirit" in the category of the natural? - or - Is a "spirit" in the category of the supernatural?