Humans in deep space? Doubt it.

[Dante]

seems to have a somewhat "crop circle" vibe. guess i'll look it up.

Crop circles.

I cannot believe how many educated and supposedly intelligent people believed in that shit or wondered if it was unknowable.

 

[petro]

i'd start with the iss. we are paying musk billions to bring it down safely, why not put down the same to move it to a stable orbit and run it as relay and supply station

Yeah.
I guess I don't understand the logic in dumping it into the ocean, then starting construction on another, with a limited life also.
I am supposed to reduce, reuse and recycle, yet lets dump an entire space station into the ocean?
It took a lot to put those materials in space and it would make more sense to build onto and retrofit an already existing structure in a stable orbit.

Yet, that is the same wasteful logic right here on Earth. Tear down perfectly good structures and start from scratch, then repeat a few decades later.

 

[Donald H]

How could anyone assume, how would anyone know, if it's a thousand years or a few hundred years into the future?

You yourself mention technology. If you know technology and how it appears on the scene, you'd hang your head in shame here.

If it was possible we would be seeing evidence of more advanced entities visiting our earth.

So far there have been none.

 

[petro]

How could anyone assume, how would anyone know, if it's a thousand years or a few hundred years into the future?

You yourself mention technology. If you know technology and how it appears on the scene, you'd hang your head in shame here.

It's called making a general opinion.

Nowhere did I state my speculation as fact.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

seems to have a somewhat "crop circle" vibe. guess i'll look it up.

Southern Television broadcast interruption - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sadly bollox.

 

[rampart]

If it was possible we would be seeing evidence of more advanced entities visiting our earth.

So far there have been none.

they may be interacting with the more peaceful and intelligent species on earth. probably communicate regularly with the argentine ants or octopi.

 

[Dante]

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Technology changes everything.
It will be at least a thousand years before we can really establish a presence throughout the Solar System. But it will happen. There are endless resources available in the asteroid belt and several moons of the gas giants.
That is where the next step is.

Another star is currently and probably for a millennia out of our reach.

We are only in the baby step phase of being a possible space faring race.

and I responded:

How could anyone assume, how would anyone know, if it's a thousand years or a few hundred years into the future?

You yourself mention technology. If you know technology and how it appears on the scene, you'd hang your head in shame here.

What in the world are you talking about here? Advanced entities?

If it was possible we would be seeing evidence of more advanced entities visiting our earth.

So far there have been none.

Hello? Anybody home? Any not so advanced entity at home?

 

[Dante]

they may be interacting with the more peaceful and intelligent species on earth. probably communicate regularly with the argentine ants or octopi.

this guy went waaaay out there

 

[rampart]

this guy went waaaay out there

"a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away ....."

 

[Dante]

"a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away ....."

somebody realized they had a severe case of diarrhea and the mission became incomplete.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yeah.
I guess I don't understand the logic in dumping it into the ocean, then starting construction on another, with a limited life also.
I am supposed to reduce, reuse and recycle, yet lets dump an entire space station into the ocean?
It took a lot to put those materials in space and it would make more sense to build onto and retrofit an already existing structure in a stable orbit.

Yet, that is the same wasteful logic right here on Earth. Tear down perfectly good structures and start from scratch, then repeat a few decades later.

Maybe in another 200 years we can have something as large as the Enterprise orbiting the Earth and doing research throughout the solar system

 

[rampart]

somebody realized they had a severe case of diarrhea and the mission became incomplete.

that is one reason we send young people to space.

get that shit out of your space suit and into the hydroponic tank where it belongs.

 

[Dante]

Maybe in another 200 years we can have something as large as the Enterprise orbiting the Earth and doing research throughout the solar system

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Maybe. Maybe not.

But personally, I doubt any advances will look like StarTrek.

 

[rampart]

Maybe. Maybe not.

But personally, I doubt any advances will look like StarTrek.

no that crew was multiracial and multiethnic.

none of these trumpist can meet the star fleet weight limits.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

no that crew was multiracial and multiethnic.

none of these trumpist can meet the star fleet weight limits.

6' 175 pounds, reporting for duty

Oh, and MAGA!

 

[Dante]

no that crew was multiracial and multiethnic.

none of these trumpist can meet the star fleet weight limits.

hilarious!

Nimoy was a neighbor of my family (when I was like two?).

 

[rampart]

6' 175 pounds, reporting for duty

Oh, and MAGA!

how about a crew of amputees? legs add no value in free fall, easier to fit in small spaces and hold down mass?

 

[odanny]

An interesting side plot in the recent series The Expanse had the Mormons building a generational ship in the Astroid Belt to build their paradise on another world.

Actually an interesting show that was more realistic on possible human development over the next couple hundred years.

They've actually been building this since at least 1997.

 

[Resnic]

I do not believe humans will ever colonize another planet. We are tethered to the Earth by crucial bodily functions and are essentially slaves to water which is incredibly heavy. Did we land on the Moon? At one time I was convinced it was a true event. But now, not so much. Landing people on the Moon would be huge achievement in human history and it would not be ended for over half a century if it was an actual accomplishment. My concern is not based on lack of stars or flapping flags. I think the purported peopled Moon landings were politically staged events not a scientific breakthrough. Today with all of the new superior technolgy in our possession we have not been back. I think it would be too hard to fake it today and that is why it is not happening.

I know there is a lot being bandied about with Mars landings and such. But making that a reality is out of reach in my opinion. We are already on a space ship and that is the Earth. But we cannot get off.

We need what the Earth has and cannot survive without it. Now, we could explore with non human piloted craft operated and controlled by artificial intelligence-AI. But I believe humans are never going into the cosmos as living, breathing, lifeforms.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Do you think humans with their horrific history could engineer a way to escape and infect deep space with their spiritual and physical failures? It's not happening. The experiment is ongoing but it is at a point now where a global collapse is not out of the question.

We will be lucky if we survive much longer on our own planet.

Why We'll Never Live in Space

Medical, financial and ethical hurdles stand in the way of the dream to settle in space

www.scientificamerican.com

Think if I traveled back in time to ancient Egypt with a pistol and a bic lighter. They would have thought I was a god because fire came out of my hands and thunderous sounds came out of my hands striking them dead. That's old ass technology today but to them it would break their minds.

Hell 500 years ago people wouldn't have dreamed you could fly through the sky in a giant metal tube, and sit on a toilet taking a shit doing 350mph over the clouds while you held a device in your hand that allowed you see and hear someone else on the other side of the globe with the air conditioning on.

200 years ago no one would have believed we could have a floating ship in space where people live or that we would have landed a robot on mars.

Imagine if you showed this to the people that came here on the may flower. They wouldn't pass out or go crazy being unable to comprehend it.



But we have those things. Not much is impossible with technology. Everything is impossible, that is until we do it

 

[fncceo]

Today with all of the new superior technolgy in our possession we have not been back

In fact, our rocket technology hasn’t changed in any fundamental way since The Nazis first used them to drop on The English.

In fact, the most recent SLS system from NASA is a step back from The 1960s Saturn V. The SLS uses more fuel per launch with a lower net payload and has a much higher failure rate than its 60-year-old predecessor.

We haven’t been back for a very simple reason. Other than proving we could beat The Soviets, there is no economic or scientific reason for doing so.