Scared Shitless: Top Gop Donors Wants Donald Trump Banned From First Presidential Debate

[Toro]

Uh, guy. The last two elections the GOP lost they nominated the "sensible" candidate that you and your Wall Street Buddies approved of. It's kind of disingenuous to blame the far right wing.

I have to agree with Toro on this one, Joe. The wingnuts pulled Mittens so far to the Right in order to get the nominations he wasn't able to navigate back to the center.

In fairness, nominating a Wall Street billionaire a few years after the global financial crisis wasn't a flash of genius.

 

[tinydancer]

I'd put money on this proposition...

Cullen said he knows when the ride ends: Before the deadline, Trump will eventually have to file a financial-disclosure statement, under penalty of perjury, that details his assets and liabilities. At that point later this year when the last extension is exhausted, Cullen predicted, Trump will declare that the other candidates have adopted his positions and therefore he has accomplished his goals, and he will drop out.
National Journal​

Donald Trump is worth 10BN as he files a presidential financial disclosure Daily Mail Online

Donald Trump is worth $10 BILLION, says his campaign as he files a presidential financial disclosure -- including $213 million he was paid to do 'The Apprentice'

• Filing with the Federal Election Commission means the real estate titan is eligible to participate in debates
• Passed on the chance for two 45-day extensions and filed on time
• Income last year was $362 million, NOT including dividends, interest, capital gains, rents and royalties

#1 His campaign says. His filing does not prove that. The filing has check boxes, and the highest one is 'Over $50 million'. Which he checked.

#2 There is no way on earth that NBC paid him that much money. It's not even possible. And the last time Trump lied about what NBC pays him, NBC released a statement calling it a lie. Why do you support a blatant liar?

 

[tinydancer]

I'd put money on this proposition...

Cullen said he knows when the ride ends: Before the deadline, Trump will eventually have to file a financial-disclosure statement, under penalty of perjury, that details his assets and liabilities. At that point later this year when the last extension is exhausted, Cullen predicted, Trump will declare that the other candidates have adopted his positions and therefore he has accomplished his goals, and he will drop out.
National Journal​

Donald Trump is worth 10BN as he files a presidential financial disclosure Daily Mail Online

Donald Trump is worth $10 BILLION, says his campaign as he files a presidential financial disclosure -- including $213 million he was paid to do 'The Apprentice'

• Filing with the Federal Election Commission means the real estate titan is eligible to participate in debates
• Passed on the chance for two 45-day extensions and filed on time
• Income last year was $362 million, NOT including dividends, interest, capital gains, rents and royalties

#1 His campaign says. His filing does not prove that. The filing has check boxes, and the highest one is 'Over $50 million'. Which he checked.

#2 There is no way on earth that NBC paid him that much money. It's not even possible. And the last time Trump lied about what NBC pays him, NBC released a statement calling it a lie. Why do you support a blatant liar?

#1 How the hell can the Trump organization claim a 1.5 billion property then? They have no "fill in the blank" on the forms.

That sure as hell doesn't make them liars if the forms aren't designed for the extremely wealthy.

#2 Can you link to where NBC has denied the total?

I found this. 160 million over just two years.

NBC gives Donald a Trump-sized raise to $160M
June 22, 2011 | 4:00am Playing the presidential card has paid off for Donald Trump.

The real-estate mogul and reality-TV host — who kept viewers and the NBC network guessing until the last minute whether he would make a serious run at the Oval Office — got a sizeable pay raise to renew his contract to host “The Celebrity Apprentice” for another two years.

NBC Universal, which was acquired by cable-TV giant Comcast this year, agreed to pay Trump and co-producer Mark Burnett an estimated $160 million over two years, according to sources familiar with the contract.

Trump, who was in Scotland yesterday touting his plan to build a new golf course, couldn’t be reached for comment. But sources said he will personally pocket $65 million a year, a substantial increase on his previous deal with the Peacock Network.

“They stepped up,” said one source close to the show. “It was an increase over last season.”

With this new deal, Trump becomes the highest-paid reality-TV star, eclipsing the “American Idol” judges and the Kardashian clan.

NBC gives Donald a Trump-sized raise to 160M New York Post

 

[amrchaos]

I'd put money on this proposition...

Cullen said he knows when the ride ends: Before the deadline, Trump will eventually have to file a financial-disclosure statement, under penalty of perjury, that details his assets and liabilities. At that point later this year when the last extension is exhausted, Cullen predicted, Trump will declare that the other candidates have adopted his positions and therefore he has accomplished his goals, and he will drop out.
National Journal​

Donald Trump is worth 10BN as he files a presidential financial disclosure Daily Mail Online

Donald Trump is worth $10 BILLION, says his campaign as he files a presidential financial disclosure -- including $213 million he was paid to do 'The Apprentice'

• Filing with the Federal Election Commission means the real estate titan is eligible to participate in debates
• Passed on the chance for two 45-day extensions and filed on time
• Income last year was $362 million, NOT including dividends, interest, capital gains, rents and royalties

#1 His campaign says. His filing does not prove that. The filing has check boxes, and the highest one is 'Over $50 million'. Which he checked.

#2 There is no way on earth that NBC paid him that much money. It's not even possible. And the last time Trump lied about what NBC pays him, NBC released a statement calling it a lie. Why do you support a blatant liar?

#1 How the hell can the Trump organization claim a 1.5 billion property then? They have no "fill in the blank" on the forms.

That sure as hell doesn't make them liars if the forms aren't designed for the extremely wealthy.

#2 Can you link to where NBC has denied the total?

I found this. 160 million over just two years.

NBC gives Donald a Trump-sized raise to $160M
June 22, 2011 | 4:00am Playing the presidential card has paid off for Donald Trump.

The real-estate mogul and reality-TV host — who kept viewers and the NBC network guessing until the last minute whether he would make a serious run at the Oval Office — got a sizeable pay raise to renew his contract to host “The Celebrity Apprentice” for another two years.

NBC Universal, which was acquired by cable-TV giant Comcast this year, agreed to pay Trump and co-producer Mark Burnett an estimated $160 million over two years, according to sources familiar with the contract.

Trump, who was in Scotland yesterday touting his plan to build a new golf course, couldn’t be reached for comment. But sources said he will personally pocket $65 million a year, a substantial increase on his previous deal with the Peacock Network.

“They stepped up,” said one source close to the show. “It was an increase over last season.”

With this new deal, Trump becomes the highest-paid reality-TV star, eclipsing the “American Idol” judges and the Kardashian clan.

NBC gives Donald a Trump-sized raise to 160M New York Post

OK, OK,OK---but..?

What the hell am I arguing about?​

 

[Synthaholic]

Uh, guy. The last two elections the GOP lost they nominated the "sensible" candidate that you and your Wall Street Buddies approved of. It's kind of disingenuous to blame the far right wing.

I have to agree with Toro on this one, Joe. The wingnuts pulled Mittens so far to the Right in order to get the nominations he wasn't able to navigate back to the center.

In fairness, nominating a Wall Street billionaire a few years after the global financial crisis wasn't a flash of genius.

But...but...he was severely conservative!

 

[Synthaholic]

I'd put money on this proposition...

Cullen said he knows when the ride ends: Before the deadline, Trump will eventually have to file a financial-disclosure statement, under penalty of perjury, that details his assets and liabilities. At that point later this year when the last extension is exhausted, Cullen predicted, Trump will declare that the other candidates have adopted his positions and therefore he has accomplished his goals, and he will drop out.
National Journal​

Donald Trump is worth 10BN as he files a presidential financial disclosure Daily Mail Online

Donald Trump is worth $10 BILLION, says his campaign as he files a presidential financial disclosure -- including $213 million he was paid to do 'The Apprentice'

• Filing with the Federal Election Commission means the real estate titan is eligible to participate in debates
• Passed on the chance for two 45-day extensions and filed on time
• Income last year was $362 million, NOT including dividends, interest, capital gains, rents and royalties

#1 His campaign says. His filing does not prove that. The filing has check boxes, and the highest one is 'Over $50 million'. Which he checked.

#2 There is no way on earth that NBC paid him that much money. It's not even possible. And the last time Trump lied about what NBC pays him, NBC released a statement calling it a lie. Why do you support a blatant liar?

This post from you has no post from you.

 

[ABikerSailor]

They've GOTTA let Donald the Chump in the GOP debates!!!!

He's the only reason I'm gonna watch.

 

[amrchaos]

Why does it even matter how much Trump is worth?

The Big concern was "Is he going to file his financials?", and he did.

So now what is left for the Trumpster? What hurdles can the GOP donors throw at him now?

It is a done deal for the debates. I am looking forwards to seeing him perform.

 

[cereal_killer]

I'm digging the Donald at this point. Really stoked to see the debates as well. He'll either hit it out of the park or fail miserably.

I do like Bernie Sanders BUT his talk of spreading the wealth and FREE this and that wouldn't get him my vote. His stance on guns is a sore spot with me as well. He's a great guy though, and I can see why he's gaining traction. His fans are very passionate like the Ron Paul fans were.

 

[Synthaholic]

I'm digging the Donald at this point. Really stoked to see the debates as well. He'll either hit it out of the park or fail miserably.

I do like Bernie Sanders BUT his talk of spreading the wealth and FREE this and that wouldn't get him my vote. His stance on guns is a sore spot with me as well. He's a great guy though, and I can see why he's gaining traction. His fans are very passionate like the Ron Paul fans were.

Huh? He is pro-gun, and gets a good rating from the gun manufacturers lobby, the NRA. He has to be, being from Vermont.

Ron Paul calls Trump "dangerous".

 

[cereal_killer]

I'm digging the Donald at this point. Really stoked to see the debates as well. He'll either hit it out of the park or fail miserably.

I do like Bernie Sanders BUT his talk of spreading the wealth and FREE this and that wouldn't get him my vote. His stance on guns is a sore spot with me as well. He's a great guy though, and I can see why he's gaining traction. His fans are very passionate like the Ron Paul fans were.

Huh? He is pro-gun, and gets a good rating from the gun manufacturers lobby, the NRA. He has to be, being from Vermont.

Welp you just learned me something. That's another tick mark in the positive column for him. Now if he would just drop his socialist views, but hey that's what he believes so more power to him.

 

[cnm]

Welp you just learned me something. That's another tick mark in the positive column for him. Now if he would just drop his socialist views, but hey that's what he believes so more power to him.

His socialist views are getting him the audiences.

 

[Synthaholic]

I'm digging the Donald at this point. Really stoked to see the debates as well. He'll either hit it out of the park or fail miserably.

I do like Bernie Sanders BUT his talk of spreading the wealth and FREE this and that wouldn't get him my vote. His stance on guns is a sore spot with me as well. He's a great guy though, and I can see why he's gaining traction. His fans are very passionate like the Ron Paul fans were.

Huh? He is pro-gun, and gets a good rating from the gun manufacturers lobby, the NRA. He has to be, being from Vermont.

Welp you just learned me something. That's another tick mark in the positive column for him. Now if he would just drop his socialist views, but hey that's what he believes so more power to him.

It's one of the things Liberals don't like about him!

 

[JoeB131]

I have to agree with Toro on this one, Joe. The wingnuts pulled Mittens so far to the Right in order to get the nominations he wasn't able to navigate back to the center.

I don't buy that.

I really don't think Mitt lost because his 'social views" were that far to the right. He really wasn't any further to the right than George W. Bush was, and Bush won twice. (Kind of sort of)

I think what did Mittens in is that he "Looks like the guy who lays off your Dad". And acted like it.

 

[JoeB131]

In fairness, nominating a Wall Street billionaire a few years after the global financial crisis wasn't a flash of genius.

But I think it's more than that.

The reason why I think Rubio and Walker are the most formidable candidates the GOP has is because they have that down home, working class background. He's not right wing because he wants another Dressage Horsie and is just paying lip service to your views on Abortion and gays.

He's someone who gets that the recession has been brutal for the middle class and working class, and actually is sincere about your concerns about abortion and gays.

I think this is why the Wall Street class panicked when Huckabee pulled ahead in 2008. He was social conservatism with no use for Wall Street Conservatism.

Will Walker strike the right balance? Maybe?

 

[bripat9643]

Uh, guy. The last two elections the GOP lost they nominated the "sensible" candidate that you and your Wall Street Buddies approved of. It's kind of disingenuous to blame the far right wing.

I have to agree with Toro on this one, Joe. The wingnuts pulled Mittens so far to the Right in order to get the nominations he wasn't able to navigate back to the center.

In fairness, nominating a Wall Street billionaire a few years after the global financial crisis wasn't a flash of genius.

Trump made his money from real estate, not Wall Street.

 

[Skylar]

The Republican establishment has become little more than a shadow party of the Democrats. Guys like Trump, Cruz, Paul, etc. scare the shit out of them. They want business as usual.

So even when its a Republican spending millions on republican candidates...its still the democrats.

Ladies and gentlemen.....I give you Cognitive Dissonance.

 

[Synthaholic]

I have to agree with Toro on this one, Joe. The wingnuts pulled Mittens so far to the Right in order to get the nominations he wasn't able to navigate back to the center.

I don't buy that.

I really don't think Mitt lost because his 'social views" were that far to the right. He really wasn't any further to the right than George W. Bush was, and Bush won twice. (Kind of sort of)

I think what did Mittens in is that he "Looks like the guy who lays off your Dad". And acted like it.

Yes, but Bush won back when conservatives were just fine with spending our grandchildren's money, and Cheney was still known as the guy who said "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".

And yes, Mitt did look like the guy who laid off your dad, and that was a huge part of his problem. That, and his complete flip-flop on everything he always claimed to believe.

 

[Debra K]

Are they filming now for the "Trump 2016" reality show?

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know.............based on how wrong the pollsters on the right were when it came to the 2012 election (remember..........Mittens was projected to win, and it was going to be a long night and a close election that was over by 10 pm), I'm wondering if they're using the same flawed agencies that they did back in 2012.

Either that, or Donald the Chump is greasing palms to make his standing in the polls look better.