Saved by Medicaid: New Evidence on Health Insurance and Mortality from the Universe of Low-Income Adults

[whitehall]

NBER claims to be a national bureau but it's not affiliated with the government, it just uses the title. It also claims to be non partisan but it's an advocacy group for the lazy bums who sit around collecting a government check for doing nothing. Even democrats used to say that we needed to clean the corruption out of Medicaid but they did nothing.

 

[Darkwind]

Bigoted and ignorant is no way to go through life.

Then you should reform yourself.

 

[berg80]

Further proof that Republicans are dishonest scum

They certainly have made a conscious decision to believe lies to avoid accountability for what they have done with their votes.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Bigoted and ignorant is no way to go through life.

GREAT POST !

 

[Seymour Flops]

We examine the causal effect of health insurance on mortality using the universe of low-income adults, a dataset of 37 million individuals identified by linking the 2010 Census to administrative tax data. Our methodology leverages state-level variation in the timing and adoption of Medicaid expansions under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and earlier waivers and adheres to a preregistered analysis plan, a rarely used approach in observational studies in economics. We find that expansions increased Medicaid enrollment by 12 percentage points and reduced the mortality of the low-income adult population by 2.5 percent, suggesting a 21 percent reduction in the mortality hazard of new enrollees. Mortality reductions accrued not only to older age cohorts, but also to younger adults, who accounted for nearly half of life-years saved due to their longer remaining lifespans and large share of the low-income adult population.

Saved by Medicaid: New Evidence on Health Insurance and Mortality from the Universe of Low-Income Adults

Founded in 1920, the NBER is a private, non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to conducting economic research and to disseminating research findings among academics, public policy makers, and business professionals.

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One can only hope that over time the lies told by Repubs regarding Medicaid cuts and "able bodied adults" will become fully understood by the voting public. This, despite the most cynical political maneuver I can recall.

At the core of Republicans’ newly finalized domestic policy package is an important political calculation. It provides its most generous tax breaks early on and reserves some of its most painful benefit cuts until after the 2026 midterm elections.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/us/politics/tax-cuts-benefit-cuts.html

They will be even more healthy when they get exercise by doing 20 hours of community service per week.

 

[berg80]

Are you in favor of able-bodied people being on Medicaid because they don't want to work?

No. Are you prepared to do some research on the lies about able bodied recipients Repubs are using to justify a tax cut for the wealthy?

Assessing Medicaid Coverage Losses Under House Reconciliation Bill - FactCheck.org

Republicans say that able-bodied adults who don’t work would lose Medicaid coverage under the House tax-cuts-and-spending bill, while Democrats say the legislation would hurt vulnerable groups. The bill’s main target is those able-bodied adults, but other groups would lose coverage due to...

www.factcheck.org

 

[Woodznutz]

Bigoted and ignorant is no way to go through life.

Nor is wearing blinders.

 

[Woodznutz]

No. Are you prepared to do some research on the lies about able bodied recipients Repubs are using to justify a tax cut for the wealthy?

Assessing Medicaid Coverage Losses Under House Reconciliation Bill - FactCheck.org

Republicans say that able-bodied adults who don’t work would lose Medicaid coverage under the House tax-cuts-and-spending bill, while Democrats say the legislation would hurt vulnerable groups. The bill’s main target is those able-bodied adults, but other groups would lose coverage due to...

www.factcheck.org

There's work that needs to be done. Do you think the rich are going to do it? It's not about the money; it's about the work.

 

[berg80]

The choice is work or die. Apparently many dems think people will choose to die instead of work, volunteer, or go to school. In some cases they may be right. I really don't have any sympathy for able bodied people who choose not to work, volunteer, or go to school. As far as illegals go, they have the choice to self deport or die.

Go **** yourself.

The CBO estimated that Medicaid coverage would drop by 5.2 million people in 2034 because of the work requirement provision, with 4.8 million being uninsured. Its June 4 letter on these figures said that 18.5 million would be subject to the requirement, though “some” would be exempt.

It’s unclear how many are “able-bodied” and choosing not to work.

Studies have found a small percentage of Medicaid enrollees would fit that description. In an analysis of 2024 Census Bureau survey data, KFF determined that 8% of Medicaid recipients under age 65 and not also getting Social Security disability benefits weren’t working because they were retired, unable to find work or another reason. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that half of that group was retired.

Nearly two-thirds – 64% – were working full-time or part-time, and the rest weren’t working due to a disability or illness, caregiving responsibilities, or being a student.

Johnson has referred to “about 4.8 million able-bodied workers, young men, for example, who are on Medicaid and not working. They are choosing not to work when they can,” calling this “fraud.” But the 4.8 million figure is the CBO estimate of the number who would become uninsured due to the work requirements. The House Energy and Commerce Committee, in a post on X, said these were all “able bodied adults choosing not to work.”

It’s unknown how many of those individuals fit Johnson’s description. We contacted the House speaker’s office about this figure and his other claims, but we haven’t received a response.

Tolbert told us she didn’t know if a CBO breakdown would be able to provide details of what types of Medicaid enrollees will lose coverage under the work requirements, such as single adults, parents or those with disabilities.

“It is patently false that the impact is only going to be on able-bodied individuals,” Cuello said, adding that many people with disabilities aren’t enrolled with an official disability determination and instead are in the expansion population.

Michael Karpman, a principal research associate in the health policy division at the Urban Institute, told us that if there’s a group of enrollees in the expansion population that should be working but choose not to “it’s small.” The think tank has found that at least 90% of the adults in the expansion population “are working … are in fair or poor health or have a disability, likely have some caregiving responsibilities, or are looking for work. And so most people, the vast majority of people, are participating in the activities prescribed by the policy, or could potentially meet the exemption criteria from the work requirement.”

 

[Independent thinker]

Go **** yourself.

The CBO estimated that Medicaid coverage would drop by 5.2 million people in 2034 because of the work requirement provision, with 4.8 million being uninsured. Its June 4 letter on these figures said that 18.5 million would be subject to the requirement, though “some” would be exempt.

It’s unclear how many are “able-bodied” and choosing not to work.

Studies have found a small percentage of Medicaid enrollees would fit that description. In an analysis of 2024 Census Bureau survey data, KFF determined that 8% of Medicaid recipients under age 65 and not also getting Social Security disability benefits weren’t working because they were retired, unable to find work or another reason. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that half of that group was retired.

Nearly two-thirds – 64% – were working full-time or part-time, and the rest weren’t working due to a disability or illness, caregiving responsibilities, or being a student.

Johnson has referred to “about 4.8 million able-bodied workers, young men, for example, who are on Medicaid and not working. They are choosing not to work when they can,” calling this “fraud.” But the 4.8 million figure is the CBO estimate of the number who would become uninsured due to the work requirements. The House Energy and Commerce Committee, in a post on X, said these were all “able bodied adults choosing not to work.”

It’s unknown how many of those individuals fit Johnson’s description. We contacted the House speaker’s office about this figure and his other claims, but we haven’t received a response.

Tolbert told us she didn’t know if a CBO breakdown would be able to provide details of what types of Medicaid enrollees will lose coverage under the work requirements, such as single adults, parents or those with disabilities.

“It is patently false that the impact is only going to be on able-bodied individuals,” Cuello said, adding that many people with disabilities aren’t enrolled with an official disability determination and instead are in the expansion population.

Michael Karpman, a principal research associate in the health policy division at the Urban Institute, told us that if there’s a group of enrollees in the expansion population that should be working but choose not to “it’s small.” The think tank has found that at least 90% of the adults in the expansion population “are working … are in fair or poor health or have a disability, likely have some caregiving responsibilities, or are looking for work. And so most people, the vast majority of people, are participating in the activities prescribed by the policy, or could potentially meet the exemption criteria from the work requirement.”

The choice is work or die. Apparently many dems think people will choose to die instead of work, volunteer, or go to school. In some cases they may be right. I really don't have any sympathy for able bodied people who choose not to work, volunteer, or go to school. As far as illegals go, they have the choice to self deport or die.

 

[berg80]

There's work that needs to be done. Do you think the rich are going to do it? It's not about the money; it's about the work.

Of course it's about the money. The bullshit "able bodied" narrative........the Medicaid equivalent to the past lies about welfare queens........is the modern day attempt to demonize recipients as a rationale for giving the wealthy a permanent tax cut.

 

[berg80]

NBER claims to be a national bureau but it's not affiliated with the government, it just uses the title. It also claims to be non partisan but it's an advocacy group for the lazy bums who sit around collecting a government check for doing nothing. Even democrats used to say that we needed to clean the corruption out of Medicaid but they did nothing.

Another poster boy for the regime's lies is heard from. From AI.....

Yes, a majority of adults on Medicaid work. Many people believe that most Medicaid recipients don't work, but research shows that most adults on Medicaid who are under 65 and not receiving disability benefits are either employed or unable to work due to other reasons like caregiving, illness, or school.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Majority work:
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  A significant portion of Medicaid adults, roughly 64%, are either working full-time or part-time, according to KFF.
  
• Other reasons for not working:
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  Many of the remaining adults who are not working are unable to do so due to caregiving responsibilities, illness or disability, or because they are attending school.
  
  
  • Work requirements are ineffective:
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    Work requirements for Medicaid recipients don't address the underlying reasons why people are not working, and they often lead to people losing their health insurance due to bureaucratic hurdles or lack of understanding, according to the Commonwealth Fund.

 

[Woodznutz]

Of course it's about the money. The bullshit "able bodied" narrative........the Medicaid equivalent to the past lies about welfare queens........is the modern day attempt to demonize recipients as a rationale for giving the wealthy a permanent tax cut.

They're cutting waste, fraud, and abuse from Medicaid. No legitimate enrollee will lose services. The biggest cuts will come from lower medication costs if Trump can successfully negotiate them with Big Pharma. Drugs are the largest single Medicaid cost, the biggest cash cow for the drug industry.

Tax breaks for the rich is a different subject. In fact such breaks can actually provide more tax revenue for the government. Businesses use so-called 'tax loopholes' to avoid paying high taxes. When taxes are lowered they are more likely to pay them. Half a loaf is better than no loaf.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If you're able bodied and not a senior you don't deserve Medicaid. Especially for illegals

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Exactly. Nor is it obligated to be a carreer provider.

Its a poor choice for someone who wants an entry level job with low qualifications and automatic raises, job security, and promotions, regardless of effort.
Good choice for someone who wants to work hard and advance, either in Walmart management or by applying at another company with a completed education, and a strong wirk history.

This whole idea that the lowest level of jobs must pay enough to support a family of five came from immigration.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It's honest work, and a paycheck. Also, a good place to begin building work resume'.

Exactly

 

[berg80]

Apparently many dems think people will choose to die instead of work,

Go **** yourself.

Your assertion is based on the false premise being pushed by Repubs that Medicaid rolls are filled with able bodied people who choose not to work. Are there some? No doubt there are. Is the claim that only the able bodied will be hurt by the draconian cuts to Medicaid true? Absolutely not.

 

[Woodznutz]

If you're able bodied and not a senior you don't deserve Medicaid. Especially for illegals

Illegals use the Emergency Departments of many hospitals, which is one of the reasons many are going broke. Thanks again Joe.

 

[Woodznutz]

Go **** yourself.

Your assertion is based on the false premise being pushed by Repubs that Medicaid rolls are filled with able bodied people who choose not to work. Are there some? No doubt there are. Is the claim that only the able bodied will be hurt by the draconian cuts to Medicaid true? Absolutely not.

My objection is that like most Americans, they don't give a shit about their health, causing a huge burden on the healthcare system as well as those who foot most of the bills.

 

[berg80]

They're cutting waste, fraud, and abuse from Medicaid. No legitimate enrollee will lose services.

I realize that is the lie you have chosen to believe. From AI.....

House Speaker Mike Johnson has stated that a proposed budget bill would not cut Medicaid, arguing that concerns about individuals losing coverage are "nonsense" and "overblown." He has claimed that the bill strengthens the program by eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse and that any individuals who lose coverage do so by choice, for example, by not fulfilling work requirements.
However, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and several other organizations have disputed Johnson's claims.
According to the CBO:

• The bill is projected to cut federal Medicaid spending by around $1 trillion over the next decade.
• It is estimated that the bill would result in 11.8 million Americans losing health coverage under Medicaid over the next decade.
• These projected cuts are a result of provisions such as work requirements for some able-bodied adults and more frequent eligibility checks.

Other sources further emphasize that the bill imposes work requirements that make it difficult to access and maintain coverage, leading to involuntary disenrollment for many. Some experts also argue that the claim of eliminating "$625 billion" in waste, fraud, and abuse is misleading, as the CBO score indicates a reduction in Medicaid spending of that amount, primarily through these restrictions on access.