Saudi religious cops tell women not to use swings

[Sally]

Many very prominent US universities have branches or programs in Saudi Arabia... and there are 250,000 scholarship for Saudi grad students in the US.

I realize that, Sharoona, but that didn't answer my question.

Some are co-ed others are not.

They have many world famous lecturers.. and classes are in English.

Could you pull something up for us that will show that some of the classes will actually be co-ed? It would be interesting to read about this since there is so much separating of the sexes there.

 

[Sunni Man]

Could you pull something up for us that will show that some of the classes will actually be co-ed? It would be interesting to read about this since there is so much separating of the sexes there.

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

 

[aris2chat]

They were thrown out of the International Book Fair in Jeddah a couple of years ago.

Saudi Arabia: The Religious Police and the Riyadh Bookfair.
Posted on March 15, 2011 by American Bedu


The Riyadh book fair is a rare public occasion in Saudi; This year more than 700 publishing houses took part in the book fair with more than 300,000 books.

Every year more visitors attend the fair. It attracts more and more families too, there is a children’s corner, with seating and many books to read.
Besides bookseller the Haya, (religious police) not only zealously patrol the fair and impound books they deem haram and advise women to cover more, they also typically have a stand of their own. In this stand they display ”forbidden items”.

At last years bookfair there were rumors that the fair would be segregated. Luckily that did not turn out to be true. Actually it seems that more and more women are attending the book fair.
This year’s fair was unique in being supposed to be relatively free from censorship for the first time.
While the religious police were quite demure last year, at this year’s book fair things were different. This year they came to the fair in numbers! Five hundred muttawas started a row, objecting to women reporters without face veil, slamming poetry books and trying to start rows with the visitors on the grounds that they were engaging in ‘unethical’ practices.

Security forces had to interfere and arrested around 100 ”protesters”. The fair had to be closed early.

Saudi Arabia: The Religious Police and the Riyadh Bookfair. | American Bedu

There are other public occasion in Arabia.

Here's a partial list.

Trade Shows in Jeddah,Trade Fairs in Jeddah,Jeddah Trade Events,Jeddah Exhibitions & Expositions,Saudi Arabia

Those are up coming event. I posted a news article about the morality police being thrown out of the bookfair in Riyadh not Jeddah.
Are you saying that in the future they will be thrown out of a bookfair in Jeddah. You have a crystal ball?

I think the morality police should be ended.

 

[Sally]

Could you pull something up for us that will show that some of the classes will actually be co-ed? It would be interesting to read about this since there is so much separating of the sexes there.

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

Can you verify this in some article for us?

 

[Shaarona]

Saudi Arabia: The Religious Police and the Riyadh Bookfair.
Posted on March 15, 2011 by American Bedu


The Riyadh book fair is a rare public occasion in Saudi; This year more than 700 publishing houses took part in the book fair with more than 300,000 books.

Every year more visitors attend the fair. It attracts more and more families too, there is a children’s corner, with seating and many books to read.
Besides bookseller the Haya, (religious police) not only zealously patrol the fair and impound books they deem haram and advise women to cover more, they also typically have a stand of their own. In this stand they display ”forbidden items”.

At last years bookfair there were rumors that the fair would be segregated. Luckily that did not turn out to be true. Actually it seems that more and more women are attending the book fair.
This year’s fair was unique in being supposed to be relatively free from censorship for the first time.
While the religious police were quite demure last year, at this year’s book fair things were different. This year they came to the fair in numbers! Five hundred muttawas started a row, objecting to women reporters without face veil, slamming poetry books and trying to start rows with the visitors on the grounds that they were engaging in ‘unethical’ practices.

Security forces had to interfere and arrested around 100 ”protesters”. The fair had to be closed early.

Saudi Arabia: The Religious Police and the Riyadh Bookfair. | American Bedu

There are other public occasion in Arabia.

Here's a partial list.

Trade Shows in Jeddah,Trade Fairs in Jeddah,Jeddah Trade Events,Jeddah Exhibitions & Expositions,Saudi Arabia

Those are up coming event. I posted a news article about the morality police being thrown out of the bookfair in Riyadh not Jeddah.
Are you saying that in the future they will be thrown out of a bookfair in Jeddah. You have a crystal ball?

I think the morality police should be ended.

They also have a big book fair in Jeddah.. I am just not sure what year they were thrown out.

They are weeding out the morality police.

Most Saudis want cautious reforms... and they shall have them. A few old timers are afraid of change f course, but the SAG also want the pests gone.

 

[Shaarona]

Could you pull something up for us that will show that some of the classes will actually be co-ed? It would be interesting to read about this since there is so much separating of the sexes there.

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have toured this university in KSA and others.

Saudi Arabia Opens Co-Ed University of Science and Technology


On September 23rd, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia opened a new university on the Red Sea that aims to put the nation at the forefront of scientific research. The King Abdullah University for Science and Technology (KAUST) was built in only two years at the cost of billions of dollars. Perhaps the most unique aspect of the post-graduate-only university is that men and women can study together, making it the first co-educational public education institution in the country. About 15% of the incoming class is women and the student body draws from more than 60 different countries.

KAUST’s overarching goals are to make Saudi Arabia a global leader in research and technology as well as modernize research and education in the country. The large campus includes state of the art technology, such as one of the world’s fastest super computers, a marine sanctuary, and a research facility built around a coral reef ecosystem. One major research aim is to study alternative energy sources for Saudi, in the hopes of providing economic alternatives in the future. The university has paired with research institutions around the world, including Cambridge, Stanford, and the University of Singapore, a reflection of its desire to be an international technological research center.

The new university is largely a product of King Abdullah’s desire to urge the nation toward a new era of economic and scientific progress. The school has 374 students, 15% from Saudi, and all classes will be taught in English. Further, King Abdullah endowed the school for $10 billion so it will not have to rely on government funding, ensuring that the King’s vision will be carried out.

References
King Abdullah to open University of Science and Technology | GulfNews.com
http://www.france24.com/en/20090923-saudi-aims-moon-with-new-hi-tech-research-oasis-1

 

[Shaarona]

Alfaisal University is a private, non-profit, research university located in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. It is the second co-educational university in Saudi Arabia after KAUST. It commenced its academic programs in 2007.[3]

The university was founded by a consortium of King Faisal Foundation, Harvard,[4][5] MIT,[5][6] Cambridge,[5] ISU,[5] King Faisal Specialist Hospital,[5] KACST,[5] MODON,[5] Thales,[5] Saudi Aramco[7] and Boeing.[5]



Alfaisal University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sally]

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have toured this university in KSA and others.

Saudi Arabia Opens Co-Ed University of Science and Technology


On September 23rd, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia opened a new university on the Red Sea that aims to put the nation at the forefront of scientific research. The King Abdullah University for Science and Technology (KAUST) was built in only two years at the cost of billions of dollars. Perhaps the most unique aspect of the post-graduate-only university is that men and women can study together, making it the first co-educational public education institution in the country. About 15% of the incoming class is women and the student body draws from more than 60 different countries.

KAUST’s overarching goals are to make Saudi Arabia a global leader in research and technology as well as modernize research and education in the country. The large campus includes state of the art technology, such as one of the world’s fastest super computers, a marine sanctuary, and a research facility built around a coral reef ecosystem. One major research aim is to study alternative energy sources for Saudi, in the hopes of providing economic alternatives in the future. The university has paired with research institutions around the world, including Cambridge, Stanford, and the University of Singapore, a reflection of its desire to be an international technological research center.

The new university is largely a product of King Abdullah’s desire to urge the nation toward a new era of economic and scientific progress. The school has 374 students, 15% from Saudi, and all classes will be taught in English. Further, King Abdullah endowed the school for $10 billion so it will not have to rely on government funding, ensuring that the King’s vision will be carried out.

References
King Abdullah to open University of Science and Technology | GulfNews.com
http://www.france24.com/en/20090923-saudi-aims-moon-with-new-hi-tech-research-oasis-1

I think we all have read about this Sharoona, but you still didn't tell us if an important visiting lecturer had only a short time for his lecture, will the women be allowed to attend his lecture also along with the men. And let us hope that some day, 50% of the students will be women and that they are allowed to intermingle with the male students like college students do around the world.

 

[Sunni Man]

Could you pull something up for us that will show that some of the classes will actually be co-ed? It would be interesting to read about this since there is so much separating of the sexes there.

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have attended many classes, lectures, seminars, and other events at muslim venues.

And the seating was always segregated between the men and women.

That's just standard Islamic practice. ...

 

[Shaarona]

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have toured this university in KSA and others.

Saudi Arabia Opens Co-Ed University of Science and Technology


On September 23rd, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia opened a new university on the Red Sea that aims to put the nation at the forefront of scientific research. The King Abdullah University for Science and Technology (KAUST) was built in only two years at the cost of billions of dollars.

Perhaps the most unique aspect of the post-graduate-only university is that men and women can study together, making it the first co-educational public education institution in the country. About 15% of the incoming class is women and the student body draws from more than 60 different countries.

KAUST’s overarching goals are to make Saudi Arabia a global leader in research and technology as well as modernize research and education in the country. The large campus includes state of the art technology, such as one of the world’s fastest super computers, a marine sanctuary, and a research facility built around a coral reef ecosystem. One major research aim is to study alternative energy sources for Saudi, in the hopes of providing economic alternatives in the future. The university has paired with research institutions around the world, including Cambridge, Stanford, and the University of Singapore, a reflection of its desire to be an international technological research center.

The new university is largely a product of King Abdullah’s desire to urge the nation toward a new era of economic and scientific progress. The school has 374 students, 15% from Saudi, and all classes will be taught in English. Further, King Abdullah endowed the school for $10 billion so it will not have to rely on government funding, ensuring that the King’s vision will be carried out.

References
King Abdullah to open University of Science and Technology | GulfNews.com
http://www.france24.com/en/20090923-saudi-aims-moon-with-new-hi-tech-research-oasis-1

I think we all have read about this Sharoona, but you still didn't tell us if an important visiting lecturer had only a short time for his lecture, will the women be allowed to attend his lecture also along with the men. And let us hope that some day, 50% of the students will be women and that they are allowed to intermingle with the male students like college students do around the world.

Did you read this link??????

 

[Sally]

They aren't co-ed in the way the west has mixed seating.

The men will set on one side of the room and women set on the other side or in the back. ...

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have attended many classes, lectures, seminars, and other events at muslim venues.

And the seating was always segregated between the men and women.

That's just standard Islamic practice. ...

Yeah, sure, you know exactly what will happen in Saudi Arabia when a world-known lecturer has only a short amount of time to give a lecture. When you attend one in Saudi Arabia, please let us know what happened. About all that I would believe you saying is that you attend a mosque here in the States.

 

[Sally]

I have toured this university in KSA and others.

Saudi Arabia Opens Co-Ed University of Science and Technology


On September 23rd, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia opened a new university on the Red Sea that aims to put the nation at the forefront of scientific research. The King Abdullah University for Science and Technology (KAUST) was built in only two years at the cost of billions of dollars.

Perhaps the most unique aspect of the post-graduate-only university is that men and women can study together, making it the first co-educational public education institution in the country. About 15% of the incoming class is women and the student body draws from more than 60 different countries.

KAUST’s overarching goals are to make Saudi Arabia a global leader in research and technology as well as modernize research and education in the country. The large campus includes state of the art technology, such as one of the world’s fastest super computers, a marine sanctuary, and a research facility built around a coral reef ecosystem. One major research aim is to study alternative energy sources for Saudi, in the hopes of providing economic alternatives in the future. The university has paired with research institutions around the world, including Cambridge, Stanford, and the University of Singapore, a reflection of its desire to be an international technological research center.

The new university is largely a product of King Abdullah’s desire to urge the nation toward a new era of economic and scientific progress. The school has 374 students, 15% from Saudi, and all classes will be taught in English. Further, King Abdullah endowed the school for $10 billion so it will not have to rely on government funding, ensuring that the King’s vision will be carried out.

References
King Abdullah to open University of Science and Technology | GulfNews.com
http://www.france24.com/en/20090923-saudi-aims-moon-with-new-hi-tech-research-oasis-1

I think we all have read about this Sharoona, but you still didn't tell us if an important visiting lecturer had only a short time for his lecture, will the women be allowed to attend his lecture also along with the men. And let us hope that some day, 50% of the students will be women and that they are allowed to intermingle with the male students like college students do around the world.

Did you read this link??????

I glanced through it since I had already been aware of this venture. However, why don't you copy and paste for me where it says that men and women will be able to attend an important lecture if the lecturer only has a certainly amount of time for just one lecture. You can probably go to that section real fast for me since you are the expert about what is going on in Saudi Arabia. I think that the University of Southern California has the largest amount of foreign students here in the U.S., and I don't believe the classes are segregated by gender or women being made to sit in back to accommodate the Muslim students.

 

[Shaarona]

Can you verify this in some article for us?

I have attended many classes, lectures, seminars, and other events at muslim venues.

And the seating was always segregated between the men and women.

That's just standard Islamic practice. ...

Yeah, sure, you know exactly what will happen in Saudi Arabia when a world-known lecturer has only a short amount of time to give a lecture. When you attend one in Saudi Arabia, please let us know what happened. About all that I would believe you saying is that you attend a mosque here in the States.

Kaust is coed and its own by Saudi ARAMCO .. endowed by the king.. Its co-ed and they don't wear veils.

 

[Sally]

I have attended many classes, lectures, seminars, and other events at muslim venues.

And the seating was always segregated between the men and women.

That's just standard Islamic practice. ...

Yeah, sure, you know exactly what will happen in Saudi Arabia when a world-known lecturer has only a short amount of time to give a lecture. When you attend one in Saudi Arabia, please let us know what happened. About all that I would believe you saying is that you attend a mosque here in the States.

Kaust is coed and its own by Saudi ARAMCO .. endowed by the king.. Its co-ed and they don't wear veils.

Not having to wear veils is really not answering my question.

 

[Shaarona]

Yeah, sure, you know exactly what will happen in Saudi Arabia when a world-known lecturer has only a short amount of time to give a lecture. When you attend one in Saudi Arabia, please let us know what happened. About all that I would believe you saying is that you attend a mosque here in the States.

Kaust is coed and its own by Saudi ARAMCO .. endowed by the king.. Its co-ed and they don't wear veils.

Not having to wear veils is really not answering my question.

There is a video somewhere.. Kaust is in Jeddah and there just isn't much of a Muttawa presence.

 

[Roudy]

Reading stuff like this makes me ever so thankful I was born in the USA.
With that said...I don't understand how a woman stays with a man that eventually cut off her fingers for getting an education, or another man that slices off an ear and a nose. They are in the USA now...so why do they stay with husbands that they must surely know will snap at any given time?

Good question, lets ask Sharoona the Sharmoota, the resident Islam apologist in da house.

 

[Shaarona]

Reading stuff like this makes me ever so thankful I was born in the USA.
With that said...I don't understand how a woman stays with a man that eventually cut off her fingers for getting an education, or another man that slices off an ear and a nose. They are in the USA now...so why do they stay with husbands that they must surely know will snap at any given time?

Good question, lets ask Sharoona the Sharmoota, the resident Islam apologist in da house.

Will you stop calling me ugly names?

 

[Sally]

You are still not answer my question, Sharoona.

 

[Shaarona]

You are still not answer my question, Sharoona.

A lecturer would not leave women at these co-ed schools out.. That defeats the purpose.

 

[Sally]

Forget that I asked you the question since it is obvious that you can't prove what you say.