Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered

[RoccoR]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

That is another one of your most favorite stances. If someone promotes a perspective different from yours, it is a "lie." It is a milder form of the "condition called intermittent explosive disorder."

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

(SERIOUSLY)

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

And nobody trusted the Arab Palestinians to establish an autonomous national home for the protection of the Jewish people. In my opinion, ha the Allied Powers allowed the entirety of the original territory under the Mandate, it would have spelled doom for the Jewish Culture.

The Arab Palestinians have been stomping their feet and throwing a tantrum like little children, then acting like adults and build a nation they could be proud to be a member.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Ropey]

Roses are red,
Sunsets are too.
While in Jerusalem,
It's red and blue.

Out damned spot! Yet there it is.

Soon Al-Aqsa will be gone.

 

[Hollie]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

That is another one of your most favorite stances. If someone promotes a perspective different from yours, it is a "lie." It is a milder form of the "condition called intermittent explosive disorder."

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

(SERIOUSLY)

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

And nobody trusted the Arab Palestinians to establish an autonomous national home for the protection of the Jewish people. In my opinion, ha the Allied Powers allowed the entirety of the original territory under the Mandate, it would have spelled doom for the Jewish Culture.

The Arab Palestinians have been stomping their feet and throwing a tantrum like little children, then acting like adults and build a nation they could be proud to be a member.

Most Respectfully,
R

I've noted to PF Timore on earlier occasions if he would like to opine why it is that the Jewish people, similar to those in Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were able to establish self-determination and build their futures without the whining and moaning offered as excuses for Arab-Moslem incompetence and ineptitude?

If memory serves, that was met with a cut and paste youtube video.

 

[P F Tinmore]

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

It is not whatever the reason it is that they were expected to accept minority status in their own country.

What other people in the world would accept that?

Give me some names.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

That is another one of your most favorite stances. If someone promotes a perspective different from yours, it is a "lie." It is a milder form of the "condition called intermittent explosive disorder."

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

(SERIOUSLY)

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

And nobody trusted the Arab Palestinians to establish an autonomous national home for the protection of the Jewish people. In my opinion, ha the Allied Powers allowed the entirety of the original territory under the Mandate, it would have spelled doom for the Jewish Culture.

The Arab Palestinians have been stomping their feet and throwing a tantrum like little children, then acting like adults and build a nation they could be proud to be a member.

Most Respectfully,
R

I've noted to PF Timore on earlier occasions if he would like to opine why it is that the Jewish people, similar to those in Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were able to establish self-determination and build their futures without the whining and moaning offered as excuses for Arab-Moslem incompetence and ineptitude?

If memory serves, that was met with a cut and paste youtube video.

I was in Vietnam under occupation. It was not pretty. It wasn't until after we left that they had the opportunity to build their country. The Palestinians cannot do anything until after the occupation leaves.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

It is not whatever the reason it is that they were expected to accept minority status in their own country.

What other people in the world would accept that?

Give me some names.

The Arabs are not the Indigenous/native people of the region called Palestine, aka Land of Israel.

Their Islamic mentality is what keeps them from accepting a Jewish Nation on any land they have conquered, especially - even if - that land really is the Ancient Homeland of the Jewish People, the land they were always present on.

Live with it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

That is another one of your most favorite stances. If someone promotes a perspective different from yours, it is a "lie." It is a milder form of the "condition called intermittent explosive disorder."

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

(SERIOUSLY)

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

And nobody trusted the Arab Palestinians to establish an autonomous national home for the protection of the Jewish people. In my opinion, ha the Allied Powers allowed the entirety of the original territory under the Mandate, it would have spelled doom for the Jewish Culture.

The Arab Palestinians have been stomping their feet and throwing a tantrum like little children, then acting like adults and build a nation they could be proud to be a member.

Most Respectfully,
R

I've noted to PF Timore on earlier occasions if he would like to opine why it is that the Jewish people, similar to those in Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were able to establish self-determination and build their futures without the whining and moaning offered as excuses for Arab-Moslem incompetence and ineptitude?

If memory serves, that was met with a cut and paste youtube video.

I was in Vietnam under occupation. It was not pretty. It wasn't until after we left that they had the opportunity to build their country. The Palestinians cannot do anything until after the occupation leaves.

The "Palestinians" are the occupiers.

There are no Jews in Gaza. Three are no Jews in Jordan. ALL OF IT, Jewish land. Time for them to move on.
They won't because Islam demands they take the land back to Muslim hands.

Muslims are from Arabia.
Arabs are from Arabia.
Palestinian Arabs are from Arabia.

They are welcome to go back to be a majority over there if they choose, regardless of the Saudi Clan which controls the region.

Good Luck !!!!

 

[Hollie]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

That is another one of your most favorite stances. If someone promotes a perspective different from yours, it is a "lie." It is a milder form of the "condition called intermittent explosive disorder."

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

(SERIOUSLY)

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

And nobody trusted the Arab Palestinians to establish an autonomous national home for the protection of the Jewish people. In my opinion, ha the Allied Powers allowed the entirety of the original territory under the Mandate, it would have spelled doom for the Jewish Culture.

The Arab Palestinians have been stomping their feet and throwing a tantrum like little children, then acting like adults and build a nation they could be proud to be a member.

Most Respectfully,
R

I've noted to PF Timore on earlier occasions if he would like to opine why it is that the Jewish people, similar to those in Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were able to establish self-determination and build their futures without the whining and moaning offered as excuses for Arab-Moslem incompetence and ineptitude?

If memory serves, that was met with a cut and paste youtube video.

I was in Vietnam under occupation. It was not pretty. It wasn't until after we left that they had the opportunity to build their country. The Palestinians cannot do anything until after the occupation leaves.

All your usual fantasies / typical excuses for a societal illness that afflicts the vast majority of the Islamist Middle East.

And again you sidestep any accounting of why those in Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere were able to establish self-determination and build their futures when regions of the planet suffering under the scourge of Islamism cannot.

Did I suggest a clue?

 

[P F Tinmore]

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

It is not whatever the reason it is that they were expected to accept minority status in their own country.

What other people in the world would accept that?

Give me some names.

The Arabs are not the Indigenous/native people of the region called Palestine, aka Land of Israel.

Their Islamic mentality is what keeps them from accepting a Jewish Nation on any land they have conquered, especially - even if - that land really is the Ancient Homeland of the Jewish People, the land they were always present on.

Live with it.

The citizens of Palestine are not the natives. The settlers out of Europe are the natives?

 

[Hollie]

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

It is not whatever the reason it is that they were expected to accept minority status in their own country.

What other people in the world would accept that?

Give me some names.

The Arabs are not the Indigenous/native people of the region called Palestine, aka Land of Israel.

Their Islamic mentality is what keeps them from accepting a Jewish Nation on any land they have conquered, especially - even if - that land really is the Ancient Homeland of the Jewish People, the land they were always present on.

Live with it.

The citizens of Palestine are not the natives. The settlers out of Europe are the natives?

Turkish subjects living in one for the Vllayets of the Ottoman Empire, a portion of which was within the geographic area of Palestine, were Turkish subjects. Turkish invaders were not native people.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For whatever reason, the bulk of the Arab Palestinians, west of the Jordan, did not want to participate in the establishment of the right tools in the moving towards the self-governing institution.

It is not whatever the reason it is that they were expected to accept minority status in their own country.

What other people in the world would accept that?

Give me some names.

The Arabs are not the Indigenous/native people of the region called Palestine, aka Land of Israel.

Their Islamic mentality is what keeps them from accepting a Jewish Nation on any land they have conquered, especially - even if - that land really is the Ancient Homeland of the Jewish People, the land they were always present on.

Live with it.

The citizens of Palestine are not the natives. The settlers out of Europe are the natives?

The "settlers" out of Europe happened to go to Europe from the Land of Israel.

Therefore they are not "settlers", but the natives of the Land of Israel.

Something which no Arab, Palestinian or not, happens to be, as they do come from the Arabian Peninsula.


Smile

 

[USAF 2023]

Roses are red,
Sunsets are too.
While in Jerusalem,
It's red and blue.


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Out damned spot! Yet there it is.

Soon Al-Aqsa will be gone.

THANK YOU !!!!!!

 

[RoccoR]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OH, that is ridiculous. You cannot use "Occupation" as a rule. US Forces were in both Korea and Europe for as long. As a matter of fact, they are still there. The presence of foreign troops does not preclude development. The difference is the combative nature and tension between the host country and the foreign forces. In both Korea and Europe, the combative and tension levels worked towards a near zero in intensity. In the case of Israel: West Bank/Gaza, the combative and tension levels are held artificially high by Hostile Palestinian Forces supported by externals like Iran.

I was in Vietnam under occupation. It was not pretty. It wasn't until after we left that they had the opportunity to build their country. The Palestinians cannot do anything until after the occupation leaves.

(COMMENT)

HAMAS continually calls on the people in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Arab populations in Israelis to maintain the border demonstrations, and initiate another intifada, ✪⇒ “We want the uprising to last and continue to let Trump and the occupation [Israel] regret this decision.” He previously warned that Trump’s decision “will open the gates of hell on US interests in the region.”

It was a year ago that the House of Representatives introduced HR 2712 (Palestinian International Terrorism Support Prevention Act of 2017). ψ It is intended to impose sanctions with respect to foreign support for Palestinian terrorism, and for other purposes; to prevent Hamas, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or any affiliate or successor from accessing its international support networks. Why, because HAMAS has threatened to use force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the interests of the United States.

The reason that Israel is 18th on the Human Development Index Scale (higher than any other Arab League Nation - including the oil-rich nations and any member of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) Countries) and the State of Palestine is 114th which is:

• LOWER than Egypt, Turkmenistan, and Indonesia ---
• HIGHER THAN Viet Nam (your example), the Philippines and El Salvador ---​

The Arab Palestinians, if the turned that energy inward, could rise to be the shining star in the Arab World. But it would rather be violent and make calls for war in violation of the Charter. the Resolution adopted by the General Assembly 110 (II) Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war, and the Resolution adopted by the General Assembly 2625 (XXV). Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States in accordance with the Charter of the United Nation.

That is why the (socalled) State of Palestine is plunging toward the world record drive into economic failure.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

The entire territory was designated as the NATIONal Homeland for the Jewish people. So no, they didn't 'take any land that didn't belong to them'. Unless you are going to try to convince me that Israel crossed international boundaries with Jordan, Egypt and Syria in 1948 and took parts of their territories. Which would be ridiculous.

As long as you didn't disenfranchise the indigenous, non-Jewish population. Which is exactly what you did. And no, you were not given the entire area.

Hum. Have you not read the Mandate for Palestine?

The entire territory was set aside for the NATIONal homeland for the Jewish people.

There was no division made. And there was no other peoples mentioned.

Now, you could very well argue that this was an egregious oversight and needs to be corrected. I wouldn't argue with you. The WAY to correct the oversight is to negotiate for peace and sovereignty for both peoples in a way that is fair and reasonable and NOT in a way which insists on narratives and propaganda.

 

[Markle]

The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations.

Which was a lie. The Palestinians were not allowed to form their own government, or create and enforce their own laws. They remained under British military occupation until 1948.

So how does any of that give the Hamas, and the other surrounding countries, the right to commit genocide?

 

[Markle]

I was in Vietnam under occupation. It was not pretty. It wasn't until after we left that they had the opportunity to build their country. The Palestinians cannot do anything until after the occupation leaves.

After we left, North Vietnam killed MILLIONS. That's what you want for Israel? All Jews to be exterminated?

 

[Billo_Really]

Per the link:

To clarify, Israeli citizens (“settlers”) in the West-Bank live under BOTH Israeli civil law AND the military law.


So where is the document declaring martial law?

The Israeli insurgents (settlers), are not subject to martial law, only the Palestinians are.

I have not seen a formal declaration of martial law. But that is the reality Palestinians are living under.

 

[Billo_Really]

Why would anyone ignore a "living", active document that appeals to religious motives for committing genocide against an entire population?

Why would anyone ignore a document that calls for ones destruction when the stated goals of that ideological perspective are being pursued at this very moment?

It's not a living document, its been replaced. Why would anyone keep pointing to something now irrelevant, when they have been shown the evidence there position is no longer current.

And why do you keep saying they want to destroy Israel, while Israel is actively destroying them?

 

[Billo_Really]

He”s not capable of understanding that you don’t use “ civil law” for those whose goal is your destruction

Even when shown evidence to the contrary, you hold on to your bullshit beliefs.

 

[Billo_Really]

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should’ve taken the deals they were offered
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

If the Arab Palestinian is disenfranchised, it is a political self-inflected wound.

As long as you didn't disenfranchise the indigenous, non-Jewish population. Which is exactly what you did. And no, you were not given the entire area.

(COMMENT)

Territorial sovereignty wise, the territory was an "Article 16" matter for the Allied Powers (the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned); NOT a matter for the people once considered subjects under the purview of the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (British military administration over Levantine and Mesopotamian provinces of the former Ottoman Empire established following the Sinai and Palestine Campaign of the Great War). The Military Administration was established to govern the territory → what would later be placed under a Civil Administration guided by a Mandate; approved by the Council of the League of Nations. "His Majesty the King in Council enacted, on August 10th, 1922, the Palestine Order in Council, which defined the powers of the High Commissioner, prescribed the formation of an Executive Council and of a Legislative Council, and regulated the constitution and powers of the Palestine Judiciary, with special provisions for religious and for tribal Courts." (See: Report on the Palestine Administration of 1922) Palestine, as established by the agreement of the Allied Powers, was not placed in the hands of the indigenous population. It was directed that "the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers." Hense the Government of Palestine was born, not from the toil and political need of the population, but through the inspiration of the Allied Powers. The 1919 Inter-Allied Commission (AKA: The King-Crane Commission) on Mandates in Turkey, reporting on the situation in Palestine they said:

“The Peace Conference should not shut its eyes to the fact that the anti-Zionist feeling in Palestine and Syria is intense and not lightly to be flouted. No British officer, consulted by the commissioners, believed that the Zionist programme could be carried out except by forces of arms.”

Early on in the Mandate era, the Arab Palestinians disenfranchise themselves by 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government; a rejected notion but a reoccurring theme the Arab Palestinians would play over and over again. Even today, the Arab Palestinians operate essentially under the Khartoum Resolutions (The Three NO's).

The Arab Palestinians are doing it to themselves. They could have had so much more, then they have now → but chose the path of violence instead.

Most Respectfully,
R

WTF are you talking about? The indigenous Palestinian-Arabs in that area, are a concerned party and they have rights. They were also the majority land owners, up until that time.

Dude, do you have to make every response a data dump?