Sanders warns of authoritarianism after Trump deploys national guard to LA

[konradv]

It's always fun when children use the term MAGA to mean poopoohead.

Never heard MAGA described as poopooheads before, bot OK, if that’s how you want to be known!

 

[Rigby5]

because a country ruled by violent mobs is so much better. Right?

While a representative democracy is better than a pure democracy, the people in general can be trusted more than bureaucrats or the wealthy elite.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually, the President does have the authority to enforce Federal laws, and when normal means are not working such as attacks on ICE members, and thus he can use the NG.

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The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it—​

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(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.​

10 U.S. Code § 253 - Interference with State and Federal law

www.law.cornell.edu

The reason you are wrong is that ICE is not enforcing Federal law, but instead is skipping judicial due process and is illegally raiding, arresting, and deporting without any trials.
Using the NG to impose criminal acts, is treason.
Trump will be impeached over this abuse.
There was no justification for Trump having ICE conduct these illegal warrantless raids.
CA was happy, so it is Trump who is in violation.

 

[Rigby5]

Hate to sound like a broken record, but the Americans left have zero respect for our immigration laws. Leave it to these people, and America will end up as the world's largest shithole.

Wrong.
We had totally unrestricted immigration until around 1920, and it was only after 1920 that we had economic problems, like the Great Depression, etc.
Immigration always leads to greater wealth.
More immigration means more volume, economy of scale, more internal consumption, more production, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

The first thing dictators do is confiscate privately owned guns. Sanders wants to confiscate privately owned guns.

Totally wrong.
Bernie Sanders is sort of Libertarian on guns and has consistently said so.

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Bernie Sanders faced consistent criticism from the left on one issue in the 2016 Democratic primary: guns.
Opponents Hillary Clinton and Martin O’Malley attacked Sanders’s past votes against a bill in 1993 that established national background checks and for a bill in 2003 and 2005 that protects gun companies from lawsuits if their products are used in crimes. Sanders, an independent from rural and gun-friendly Vermont, defended the virtues of moderation on this issue — arguing, “We need a sensible debate about gun control which overcomes the cultural divide that exists in this country, and I think I can play an important role in this.”
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Bernie Sanders has one vulnerability on the left: his record on guns

Socialists never trust government because they believe capitalist will always take over.
So Bernie Sanders have always been totally against gun control.

 

[petro]

Any rube that takes the drooling hypocrite Sanders seriously, is the perfect example of a low IQ voter.
Looks like a few of his supporters are foaming at the mouth here like rabid poodles.

 

[Rigby5]

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Wrong.
That is inherently racist and uninformed.
The refugees are from countries where we illegally imposed colonial imperialist dictators, or illegal economic sanctions.
They are the best, which is why they left, and are a vast improvement to this country.
The work harder, buy more, pay more in taxes, support Social Security, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

None of it necessary if Biden has done his job.

If Biden did badly, it can easily be fixed without resorting to the extra-legal processes that ICE is guilty of, like warrantless raids, arrests, and deportations.
You just have to be a little slower and use judged to ensure due process.

 

[Rigby5]

The race of any "ILLEGAL" migrant (not immigrant) is irrelevant. If the nations south of our border were filled with whites who were flooding in in huge numbers over our border without being processed and vetted properly through appropriate border checkpoints, the situation would be the same.
You go through the proper channels and vetting processes. No short cuts unless your situation can be verified, regardless of your skin color.
You know that the purpose of the Biden Administration ignoring proper procedure, was to garner huge numbers of leftist voters into the nation to force a one-party only government on the nation, thus actually ending our Constitutional Republic.
The some of the leftist politicians have already admitting that their purpose was to create millions of leftist voters to force redistricting to benefit the party.
As far as I'm concerned, if your aim is to end our Constitution and its Bill of Rights, then you are the enemy and should be dealt with accordingly.

No, if the people trying to come into this country were white, things would not be the same.
That is because whites are not native, so have no inherent right to be here.
The ones trying to come into this country are not white, are native, and have ancestral rights to be here.
This is there ancestral homes at one time.
They started in Siberia and walked.
So for them to get south of the border, at one time they had to have lived in the US as natives.
The Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo under which we purchased a third of this country, requires that we recognize all Spanish land grants, all native commerce, movements, travel, employment, etc.
It violated the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo to prevent free movement of natives to and from these states.

The claim the purpose of allowing immigration was to create voters is an obvious lie.
That is because while you cannot legally stop natives from moving and working, you can stop them from voting, and no non-citizens are able to vote.
They can not register to vote without their birth certificate being checked.

 

[Rigby5]

So, Sanders wants protesters to assault law enforcement. Who could have guessed he would support that? Just about everyone on the right.

ICE is not "law enforcement".
They are in violation of the law, since they do not use judicial due process when the constitution requires that they do.

 

[Rigby5]

There’s no “immigration purge.”

There is an attempt to deport criminal aliens. The leftists want to keep ALL ILLEGALS in this country, no matter how violent and dangerous they are.

That is a lie.
The left has no problem with charging people with crimes as long as you use judicial due process in order to be legal.
It is just the illegal way ICE skips due process that the left is against.
And rightfully so.
If you skip due process, you have a dictatorship.

 

[Rigby5]

were the attacks on ice agents Friday peaceful ? that's where it started .. the agents were being harassed and attacked long before they used non lethal means to protect themselves ..

Wrong.
What started it was ICE violating the law by not using judicial due process.

 

[el midgetron]

Wrong.
We had totally unrestricted immigration until around 1920, and it was only after 1920 that we had economic problems, like the Great Depression, etc.
Immigration always leads to greater wealth.
More immigration means more volume, economy of scale, more internal consumption, more production, etc.

It all makes sense now. That’s why 63 million people can live in South Africa for thousands of years but still be dirt-poor cultural-neanderthals. Apparently, they just need to go live with white people.

Greater wealth for who?

The Decrease in Purchasing Power of the U.S. Dollar Since 1900

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[Rigby5]

Democracy might seem like authoritarianism to a freaking socialist. I wonder what Sanders thought about the killing of Ashley Babbitt during the Jan 6 demonstration.

Wrong.
Those who believe in democracy all also believe in socialism, because it makes no sense allow the wealthy elite to create monopolies that increase prices without adding anything.
All real democracies are socialist, like Sweden or Switzerland.
The US is not a real democracy because you can tell we don't even have good health care.

 

[Rigby5]

This is your politicians doing this. This is what "insurrections" are in reality. Flying flags of other nations while living off the taxpayers of the United States.

That is a lie.
No one can live off welfare in the US except ADC and disability.
Which very few can get.

And immigrant, legal or illegal, get nothing.

Flags represent ethnic rights, and the US flag represents the evil military industrial complex.

 

[Rigby5]

Any rube that takes the drooling hypocrite Sanders seriously, is the perfect example of a low IQ voter.
Looks like a few of his supporters are foaming at the mouth here like rabid poodles.

Wrong.
Anyone who is not a socialist is not rational and is ignorant of what socialism actually means.
The only good part of the US are the socialist parts, like public schools, public transportation, public libraries, public museums, public stadiums, public harbors and locks, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

It all makes sense now. That’s why 63 million people can live in South Africa for thousands of years but still be dirt-poor cultural-neanderthals. Apparently, they just need to go live with white people.

Greater wealth for who?

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The Decrease in Purchasing Power of the U.S. Dollar Since 1900

(Last updated November, 2020) The declining value of the dollar is one of the biggest threats to retirees, and near retirees. This post ex...

observationsandnotes.blogspot.com

Obviously the biggest drop in purchasing power of the US dollar is after 1920, when the US starting imposing laws against immigration.

The natives don't want to be wealthy, but instead want to work just 2 hours a day and be happy. The greedy Europeans are wealthier, but work 10 hours a day and are very unhappy.

 

[yidnar]

Wrong.
What started it was ICE violating the law by not using judicial due process.

how is ICE violating the law ? should they send illegals a postcard telling them to turn themselves in ?

 

[Rigby5]

how is ICE violating the law ? should they send illegals a postcard telling them to turn themselves in ?

ICE is violating the law by not using judicial due process, like not having hearings before raids, warrants, arrests, deportations, etc.
ICE is illegally breaking up families by violating DACA, Dream, anchor baby policies, etc.
ICE is illegally sending innocent people to mega prisons in El Salvador.

 

[yidnar]

ICE is violating the law by not using judicial due process, like not having hearings before raids, warrants, arrests, deportations, etc.
ICE is illegally breaking up families by violating DACA, Dream, anchor baby policies, etc.
ICE is illegally sending innocent people to mega prisons in El Salvador.

so let me get this straight .. you want ICE agents to have a hearing on every illegal before taking them into custody ..

AI Overview

No, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) does not necessarily have to have a court hearing before apprehending individuals suspected of being undocumented immigrants
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Expedited Removal:
ICE and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) can use a procedure called expedited removal, which allows for the rapid deportation of certain noncitizens without an immigration court hearing or appearance before an immigration judge.