Sanders pushes to give Americans a paid vacation

[Socialist]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Feel free to move to Venezuela

I will never understand this line of thought, it's as if we in America aren't allowed to recognize that other countries (Not cuba/venezuela, I mean scandinavia/etc) are doing better then us, or else we have to move there. It's such a silly way to shut down discussion.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Feel free to move to Venezuela

I will never understand this line of thought, it's as if we in America aren't allowed to recognize that other countries (Not cuba/venezuela, I mean scandinavia/etc) are doing better then us, or else we have to move there. It's such a silly way to shut down discussion.

Valenzuela is a shit hole and you want to emulate them?

Personally if a company wants to pay people not to work it's none of my business.

But in all honesty if you take a job for a company that does not provide the benefits you want then it's your own fault.

 

[Socialist]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Feel free to move to Venezuela

I will never understand this line of thought, it's as if we in America aren't allowed to recognize that other countries (Not cuba/venezuela, I mean scandinavia/etc) are doing better then us, or else we have to move there. It's such a silly way to shut down discussion.

Valenzuela is a shit hole and you want to emulate them?

Personally if a company wants to pay people not to work it's none of my business.

But in all honesty if you take a job for a company that does not provide the benefits you want then it's your own fault.

I never once claimed I want to emulate venezuela, don't know where you got that from, however, holding an honest critique and conducting analysis on venezuela and recognizing the achievements it has brought forth means nothing for emulation. I never understand how people like you fail to grasp the concept that many workers today are working 2-3 jobs, struggling to get by, not having the option to get these all so "miracle jobs" you keep describing, then we have the college education requirement, which costs large amounts of money, and then we expect people to do that while working 2-3 jobs to care for their children, sick relatives, themselves, I mean, if almost every other country has paid vacations, with many doing better then us for working families, it's time we move forward, much like we need to in regards to universal healthcare, higher education, guaranteed maternity leave for long periods of time...

 

[francoHFW]

Hell, my last job we had rollover vacation and 5 weeks/year max. When I left cashed out like 9 weeks of vacation. Shit, how much time does one really need off?
:Lol:

A month, after a year. It's called civilization. See the world, don't be an angry dupe.

Laughable at best, the idea that civilization can only exist with a month's paid vacation.

It barely exists here-

Another laughable proposition..

Of all modern countries we're the most uncivilized, with policies and tax rates that pander to the bloated rich and leave the nonrich gasping- thanks to lying, prpagandizing greedy idiot PUB billionaires and you functional idiot hater dupes. Keep laughing, hyena. see sig.

 

[francoHFW]

I never said cuba is a utopia, I'm simply examining the facts, and when you compare cuba to capitalist haiti, or listen to the WHO on cuba/etc, you begin to see a picture being painted.

You call haiti a capitalist country?

So you DON"T know what capitalism is? lol

So I guess cuba and north korea are the same?

If they're not democratic, they're not socialist, since WW II, dupes. Cuba is relenting , giving some capitalism to the people- obviously N. Korea is nuts. You want a diagram?

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

 

[francoHFW]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Feel free to move to Venezuela

I will never understand this line of thought, it's as if we in America aren't allowed to recognize that other countries (Not cuba/venezuela, I mean scandinavia/etc) are doing better then us, or else we have to move there. It's such a silly way to shut down discussion.

Valenzuela is a shit hole and you want to emulate them?

Personally if a company wants to pay people not to work it's none of my business.

But in all honesty if you take a job for a company that does not provide the benefits you want then it's your own fault.

No, stupid, we're just saying even a shithole like Venezuela (and most others) have more worker rights than we do, PUB DUPE. And your heroes in reality just love easily bullied illegal workers to keep your wages down even more, CHUMP. Arrrggghhh...

Christ with all our advantages, you're afraid of competing with those shitholes on a semi-equal basis. I'm all right, Jack idiocy of the Pub dupe....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You call haiti a capitalist country?

So you DON"T know what capitalism is? lol

So I guess cuba and north korea are the same?

If they're not democratic, they're not socialist, since WW II, dupes. Cuba is relenting , giving some capitalism to the people- obviously N. Korea is nuts. You want a diagram?

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

 

[francoHFW]

Venezuela: Workers are entitled to enjoy 15 days of paid annual leave in the first year plus one day for each year of service with the same employer up to a maximum of 15 extra days.[5]
United states: There is no statutory minimum.

Feel free to move to Venezuela

I will never understand this line of thought, it's as if we in America aren't allowed to recognize that other countries (Not cuba/venezuela, I mean scandinavia/etc) are doing better then us, or else we have to move there. It's such a silly way to shut down discussion.

It's called the nativist argument- the last refuge of the functional moron Pub dupe. Along with STUPID talking points and moronic personal insults.

 

[francoHFW]

So you DON"T know what capitalism is? lol

So I guess cuba and north korea are the same?

If they're not democratic, they're not socialist, since WW II, dupes. Cuba is relenting , giving some capitalism to the people- obviously N. Korea is nuts. You want a diagram?

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So I guess cuba and north korea are the same?

If they're not democratic, they're not socialist, since WW II, dupes. Cuba is relenting , giving some capitalism to the people- obviously N. Korea is nuts. You want a diagram?

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

I dont give a rats ass about haiti. Talk about America and you'll capture my attention.

 

[initforme]

If I am unemployed I ensure the company I work for offers a vacation, otherwise I DONT APPLY. Leave those openings UNFILLED.

 

[francoHFW]

If they're not democratic, they're not socialist, since WW II, dupes. Cuba is relenting , giving some capitalism to the people- obviously N. Korea is nuts. You want a diagram?

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

I dont give a rats ass about haiti. Talk about America and you'll capture my attention.

I am talking about it DUH. You morons are turning it into a giant 3rd world oligarchy with great natural resources.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'm not the one trying to compare Haitis brand of capitalism to the American version.
Thanks for proving my point.

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

I dont give a rats ass about haiti. Talk about America and you'll capture my attention.

I am talking about it DUH. You morons are turning it into a giant 3rd world oligarchy with great natural resources.

You should rush to haiti post haste and save em all!

 

[francoHFW]

If I am unemployed I ensure the company I work for offers a vacation, otherwise I DONT APPLY. Leave those openings UNFILLED.

Yup, never worry about other people. Let greedy employers screw them. You're a real christian. Enjoy hell, Pub dupe. lol

 

[francoHFW]

We're closer to Haiti than any other modern country. If you jackasses had your way, the only difference would be our amazing natural resources. That you seem to count as your personal talent lol.

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

I dont give a rats ass about haiti. Talk about America and you'll capture my attention.

I am talking about it DUH. You morons are turning it into a giant 3rd world oligarchy with great natural resources.

You should rush to haiti post haste and save em all!

I'm trying to help Americans, nativist moron. IDIOT. lol

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You show your stupidity over and over fucko....ya fucken dupe.

Any argument, functional shyttehead? lol. We aren't less civil because of you and your greedy lying heroes and you? Haiti is communist? Haiti is rich in natural resources? Fill us in, ignoramus.

I dont give a rats ass about haiti. Talk about America and you'll capture my attention.

I am talking about it DUH. You morons are turning it into a giant 3rd world oligarchy with great natural resources.

You should rush to haiti post haste and save em all!

I'm trying to help Americans, nativist moron. IDIOT. lol

Your help is like herpes.....

 

[francoHFW]

ANY ACTUAL ARGUMENT, hater dupe? I didn't think so...

 

[Cecilie1200]

Employers pay for the vacations you moron.

What good would forcing them to pay for your vacation do if you're out of a job? Employers react to being bullied by laying people off. Just ask McDonalds.

I'd be obliged if the government would leave my employer alone. This constant push to legislate employee benefits is having the effect that, although our business and customer base is growing, instead of moving their current employees up to more hours (which would make them full-time and eligible for benefits), they just hire more part-timers, and cover any extra hours on an as-needed basis. I would love to work more hours in the week, but thanks to the government's meddling and making it more of a pain in the ass than it's worth for my company, I don't have that option.

 

[Socialist]

Employers pay for the vacations you moron.

What good would forcing them to pay for your vacation do if you're out of a job? Employers react to being bullied by laying people off. Just ask McDonalds.

I'd be obliged if the government would leave my employer alone. This constant push to legislate employee benefits is having the effect that, although our business and customer base is growing, instead of moving their current employees up to more hours (which would make them full-time and eligible for benefits), they just hire more part-timers, and cover any extra hours on an as-needed basis. I would love to work more hours in the week, but thanks to the government's meddling and making it more of a pain in the ass than it's worth for my company, I don't have that option.

Yeah, yeah, blame the government, it's all you know how to do, it can never be the fault of the capitalists.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Who's going to pay for it? Your employer. It's part of the cost of doing business. They're the people who are benefitting from your labour.

Workers who take vacations are more alert, more productive. They come back refreshed and energized.

It's always laughable to me that Republicans, who promote themselves as the party of family values, don't promote vacations, maternity and family leave. They oppose the ACA, early childhood education and more money for education - while sending their own kids to private schools.

Republicans oppose any measures to help families.

Do you understand the difference between "vacations are great" and "therefore, the government should mandate them"?