Sanders just submitted college for all bill.

[ThunderKiss1965]

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

 

[Arianrhod]

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

What's that got to do with your claim that state universities "pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going"?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families

Rich families usually pay more property taxes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

What's that got to do with your claim that state universities "pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going"?

You're the one who wants to "make it free".
So which is it?

 

[Arianrhod]

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

What's that got to do with your claim that state universities "pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going"?

You're the one who wants to "make it free".
So which is it?

You made the claim about grading. I'm waiting for you to back it up. Instead you're back to tossing out that "billions of dollars" figure that you were unable or unwilling to support.

Care to go for a third unsupported statement? How many more you got?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

What's that got to do with your claim that state universities "pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going"?

You're the one who wants to "make it free".
So which is it?

You made the claim about grading. I'm waiting for you to back it up. Instead you're back to tossing out that "billions of dollars" figure that you were unable or unwilling to support.

Care to go for a third unsupported statement? How many more you got?

You haven't heard of grade inflation?

Back to your post #3.
Is it a small fee, or hundreds of billions a year?

 

[Arianrhod]

You haven't heard of grade inflation?

I've heard of it. I'm waiting for you to prove it happens more in state universities than in private ones.

 

[rightwinger]

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

 

[rightwinger]

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families

Rich families usually pay more property taxes.

So?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You haven't heard of grade inflation?

I've heard of it. I'm waiting for you to prove it happens more in state universities than in private ones.

I don't care if it happens more.
It's just another issue that could get worse with hundreds of billions of extra government dollars thrown at education.

Are you going to keep running away from post #3?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families

Rich families usually pay more property taxes.

So?

So we've gone from making education available to those who can't afford it to paying for rich families too?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

We don't invest in higher education?

 

[Arianrhod]

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families

Rich families usually pay more property taxes.

So?

So we've gone from making education available to those who can't afford it to paying for rich families too?

Do you have any actual data on how many wealthy families send their kids to state universities?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families

Rich families usually pay more property taxes.

So?

So we've gone from making education available to those who can't afford it to paying for rich families too?

Do you have any actual data on how many wealthy families send their kids to state universities?

No.

 

[rightwinger]

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

We don't invest in higher education?

Not as much as other industrialized nations. Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

All part of the GOP plan to make higher education a vestige of the rich only

 

[Cecilie1200]

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

I really wish that, just once, when the point of a post utterly flies over your pointy little head, it would kick you on the way past. Just once.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

We don't invest in higher education?

Not as much as other industrialized nations. Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

All part of the GOP plan to make higher education a vestige of the rich only

Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

Tuition was dropping before this "Republican austerity"?
Link?

 

[Arianrhod]

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

I really wish that, just once, when the point of a post utterly flies over your pointy little head, it would kick you on the way past. Just once.

In that eventuality, should I rely on your vast experience of the phenomenon?

 

[rightwinger]

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

We don't invest in higher education?

Not as much as other industrialized nations. Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

All part of the GOP plan to make higher education a vestige of the rich only

Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

Tuition was dropping before this "Republican austerity"?
Link?

25 Years of Declining State Support for Public Colleges

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not Federal government bottomless. If the Department of Educations yearly budget was considered GDP it would rank 66th in the world.

I guess it all comes down to priorities..

As a nation, we can afford to imprison more people than any other country on the planet
We can afford a military that is larger than the next twelve countries

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

Yet, we are outraged at the idea of investing in higher education

We don't invest in higher education?

Not as much as other industrialized nations. Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

All part of the GOP plan to make higher education a vestige of the rich only

Republican austerity has been directed at our universities causing tuition to escalate

Tuition was dropping before this "Republican austerity"?
Link?

25 Years of Declining State Support for Public Colleges

Tuition was dropping before this "Republican austerity"?