Sanders just submitted college for all bill.

[dblack]

Just another Liberal thinking someone is owed something they don't deserve.

We decided people deserve an education over a hundred years ago

Used to be eighth grade
Then it became High School
Now it needs to be college

We? You mean you bleeding hearts who thing someone else should foot the bill for it. You don't count for shit in a ******'s back yard. You have less value.

Yes...that is what is known as ..We the People
A free public school education is something we have cherished for over a century

Actually, that's a gross misapprehension of "We the People". The phrase doesn't refer to government at all, but to society independent of government. Unlike modern statists, the founders used it to emphasize the that the people stood above government, and not the other way around.

Absolutely...I think you are starting to get it.

Feel free to join me. But you're not quite there yet.

In the Constitution, We the People established a government to represent us and do what is in the best interests of the people. If government fails to do that...we the people vote someone new in

The point you're not getting is that "We the People" stipulated a government that would be limited to protecting our rights, and not be granted the power to violate them in the name of majority rule.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yay the US taxpayers get to fund degrees in high demand areas like 17th Century Kabuki theater.

And engineers, scientists, accountants, doctors, lawyers

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

 

[rightwinger]

We decided people deserve an education over a hundred years ago

Used to be eighth grade
Then it became High School
Now it needs to be college

We? You mean you bleeding hearts who thing someone else should foot the bill for it. You don't count for shit in a ******'s back yard. You have less value.

Yes...that is what is known as ..We the People
A free public school education is something we have cherished for over a century

Actually, that's a gross misapprehension of "We the People". The phrase doesn't refer to government at all, but to society independent of government. Unlike modern statists, the founders used it to emphasize the that the people stood above government, and not the other way around.

Absolutely...I think you are starting to get it.

Feel free to join me. But you're not quite there yet.

In the Constitution, We the People established a government to represent us and do what is in the best interests of the people. If government fails to do that...we the people vote someone new in

The point you're not getting is that "We the People" stipulated a government that would be limited to protecting our rights, and not be granted the power to violate them in the name of majority rule.

We have not done that for 200 years

A government that does not address the problems and issues of We the People gets voted out and replaced with someone who does

 

[rightwinger]

Yay the US taxpayers get to fund degrees in high demand areas like 17th Century Kabuki theater.

And engineers, scientists, accountants, doctors, lawyers

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

 

[dblack]

We? You mean you bleeding hearts who thing someone else should foot the bill for it. You don't count for shit in a ******'s back yard. You have less value.

Yes...that is what is known as ..We the People
A free public school education is something we have cherished for over a century

Actually, that's a gross misapprehension of "We the People". The phrase doesn't refer to government at all, but to society independent of government. Unlike modern statists, the founders used it to emphasize the that the people stood above government, and not the other way around.

Absolutely...I think you are starting to get it.

Feel free to join me. But you're not quite there yet.

In the Constitution, We the People established a government to represent us and do what is in the best interests of the people. If government fails to do that...we the people vote someone new in

The point you're not getting is that "We the People" stipulated a government that would be limited to protecting our rights, and not be granted the power to violate them in the name of majority rule.

We have not done that for 200 years

It's never too late to get it right.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How can this be? The government is spending more money every year to make college affordable.

And the usual RW response to this is to moan about how those costs are passed along to the taxpayer, and what we really need is smaller government.

But offer free tuition at state universities by imposing a small fee on hedge-fund managers and venture capitalists? No, no, no, no, RWs can't wrap their little minds around how that might work...

And the usual RW response to this is to moan about how those costs are passed along to the taxpayer

Costs are passed along. And prices rise at multiples of prices in general.
The government wants to make it more affordable, spends tens of billions, it becomes less affordable.

But offer free tuition at state universities by imposing a small fee on hedge-fund managers and venture capitalists?

Is it a small fee, or is it hundreds of billions a year? Because your post said hundreds of billions.
And your source did not limit the tax to hedge funds and venture capitalists.

You're the one who keeps tossing that "hundreds of billions" around, not me. I'm just quoting it back to you.

I know you're a liberal, and therefore dim, but I'm just quoting from your post #3 in this thread.

Fully Paid for by Imposing a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street.
This legislation is offset by imposing a Wall Street speculation fee on investment houses, hedge fund
s, and other speculators of 0.5% on stock trades (50 cents for every $100 worth of stock), a 0.1% fee
on bonds, and a 0.005% fee on derivatives. It has been estimated that this provision could
raise hundreds of billions a year which could be used not only to make tuition free at public colleges
and universities in this country, it could also be used to create millions of jobs and rebuild the
middle class of this country.

I'll be happy to break it down further if anyone's interested but, bottom line, unless you're a hedge fund manager (and a bad one), you've got nothing to worry about.

Sanders just submitted college for all bill. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

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Click on the above link and you can see your post.
So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yay the US taxpayers get to fund degrees in high demand areas like 17th Century Kabuki theater.

And engineers, scientists, accountants, doctors, lawyers

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

 

[rightwinger]

And engineers, scientists, accountants, doctors, lawyers

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

 

[rightwinger]

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

 

[Arianrhod]

And engineers, scientists, accountants, doctors, lawyers

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

 

[rightwinger]

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

 

[rightwinger]

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

Daddies pockets don't pull money out of thin air.

Sometimes....Daddy's pockets are bottomless

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

 

[rightwinger]

They can do that now

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bigger incentive when Uncle Sam foots the bill.

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Let those wanting to be engineers, etc. fund their own degrees if it's such a good investment. What's the problem with the one directly benefitting from receiving such a degree investing in their own education? It's easy. There is nothing wrong with it. It's just another way for people like you to support giving someone something so they'll vote for your candidate. It's pandering. The problem is those who pander don't get the bill.

If you or anyone you know can't afford to send their kids to college, tough shit. I don't owe it to them. No one does.

So only those who can afford it get to be engineers, scientists, accountants...

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

What is wrong with a society putting out the best qualified workforce in the world?

Is the government going to pay for the best qualified, or are they going to pay for everybody?

Only those who are qualified will earn a degree
Like anything else...you flunk out, you are gone

Any incentive for colleges to pass the flunking students, to keep the gravy train going?

Is there any evidence that state universities do that more than private universities?

So what is it? A small fee or hundreds of billions a year?

 

[rightwinger]

Why a bigger incentive than when daddy foots the bill?

When daddy sees you're getting Cs, he's more likely to cut you off.

Like anything else...the government would maintain standards for staying in school. You flunk out ...you are gone
C is still passing

the government would maintain standards for staying in school.

Thanks for the laugh.

You flunk out ...you are gone C is still passing

Those high paying degrees don't work very well with a C average.
Great investment of our tax dollars you're pushing for.

What do you call the person who finished last in his Medical School graduating class?
Doctor

You want the government to pay for medical school for rich doctors?

Why not?
We pay for High School for kids from rich families