San Jose gun owners could be required to purchase liability insurance

[White 6]

All freedom represents some risk. Should all of our rights require insurance company sponsorship?

If the risk is to you, no. If the risk of your possible actions is to other people, why not?

 

[Magnus]

State require auto insurance. I am a weapons carrier. I have no problem with held responsible. If TN mandates more insurance than I carry, I will purchase more.

You are willing to pay if there is an accident either with your car or guns. Good for you.

But there are others who are not. Who then becomes responsible for their negligence?

 

[Likkmee]

Do I get a doe~ita permit with that license ?

 

[White 6]

You are willing to pay if there is an accident either with your car or guns. Good for you.

But there are others who are not. Who then becomes responsible for their negligence?

Society or the injured and their family. I suspect the Teacher that was shot, is using her insurance as well as the school system's and state workman's compensation. It is highly unlikely, the 6-year-old kid's mother will be picking up the tab.

 

[dblack]

If the risk is to you, no. If the risk of your possible actions is to other people, why not?

Because managing public risk is THE job of government. Turning to insurance companies, instead, places one of the most important responsibilities of government in the hands of for-profit corporations. It's as dumb as privatizing prisons, for many of the same reasons.

Exercising any of our rights carries an element of risk. For example, we've seen the damage that can be done by exercising one's freedom of speech - especially in the age of the internet. Should websites, or anyone else for that matter, be required to have liability insurance before they're allowed on the internet?

 

[White 6]

Because managing public risk is THE job of government. Turning to insurance companies, instead, places one of the most important responsibilities of government in the hands of for-profit corporations. It's as dumb as privatizing prisons, for many of the same reasons.

Exercising any of our rights carries an element of risk. For example, we've seen the damage that can be done by exercising one's freedom of speech - especially in the age of the internet. Should websites, or anyone else for that matter, be required to have liability insurance before they're allowed on the internet?

Just where (which history book or enacted document) did you get that managing public risk was the governments job and we, BTW are not talking about public risk. We are talking about risk to private citizens, by private citizens exercising their right, though sometime irresponsibly.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

But they can still kill or maim in the wrong hands. Hence, the need for insurance.

So too, with guns. Let me know if you are still confused, retard.

Firearms are a right be specific and name any other right you have to pay to exercise.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And how is paying insurance infringing on your rights?

Be specific and list for us any other right the Government forces you to pay to exercise.

 

[Magnus]

Society or the injured and their family. I suspect the Teacher that was shot, is using her insurance as well as the school system's and state workman's compensation. It is highly unlikely, the 6-year-old kid's mother will be picking up the tab.

Do you think that is fair? Isn't that socialism? Someone else paying for your mistake?

Isn't that what Conservatives dislike about socialists and communists?

 

[Magnus]

Firearms are a right be specific and name any other right you have to pay to exercise.

LOL You still don't get it, do you? You are already paying for your right to have a gun.

Does the government give every citizen a free gun since they are given the right to hold arms? They don't, do they? You pay for your guns.

On top of that, you also pay to register your guns in many states. Even in the state of Texas, LTC requires a fee.

So, I turn your question back on you. Name one other right where you have to pay to exercise that said right. Go.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL You still don't get it, do you? You are already paying for your right to have a gun.

Does the government give every citizen a free gun since they are given the right to hold arms? They don't, do they? You pay for your guns.

On top of that, you also pay to register your guns in many states. Even in the state of Texas, LTC requires a fee.

So, I turn your question back on you. Name one other right where you have to pay to exercise that said right. Go.

The government doesnt pay for your newspaper internet or tv either, the prohibition is not there rights still require that you buy material but what you cant do is provide where the Government mandated anyone pay anything to exercise any right and thus your ignorant demand will be overturned by the Courts. Further since criminal acts are not covered by ANY insurance EVER the requirement doesn't help anyone. It is purely an effort to limit ownership and coercive to boot.

 

[dblack]

Just where (which history book or enacted document) did you get that managing public risk was the governments job

Just by thinking about it. That's essentially why we have government. So we can get along in society without constant risk of conflict or injury.

and we, BTW are not talking about public risk. We are talking about risk to private citizens, by private citizens exercising their right, though sometime irresponsibly.

I don't follow, but you didn't answer my question. Should websites be required to have insurance before they're allowed to exercise their free speech rights?

 

[BlackSand]

San Jose gun owners could be required to purchase liability insurance and pay an annual fee on their weapons under an ordinance the city council is expected to approve this week.

The proposed ordinance would require gun owners to pay an annual fee of roughly $25 as well as administrative costs to the city. Gun owners would also be required to maintain liability insurance in the event their gun is used for violence or a crime.

Mayor Sam Liccardo, who introduced the two proposals last June after a Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority employee killed nine of his co-workers and himself, likened the insurance requirement to motorists having car insurance.

Tuesday Morning News Roundup

San Jose gun owners could be required to purchase liability insurance and pay an annual...

www.sfgate.com

The mass shooter who spawned this law was a well-paid, law-abiding employee up until the point he went apeshit and shot dead 9 of his coworkers.

He would've just bought the insurance.

Or maybe that's what the law is for? To provide compensation to the victims?

Doesn't make much sense to me.

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You don't have to care what California does ...
Just ensure the Legislature in your State makes your State Constitution solid and invulnerable to that kind of junk.

Not that hard to stop ... Passed with more than 70% support by the People ... Who actually voted.
There won't be any Mandatory Liability Insurance for a Constitutionally Protected Right in our state.

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[Magnus]

The government doesnt pay for your newspaper internet or tv either, the prohibition is not there rights still require that you buy material but what you cant do is provide where the Government mandated anyone pay anything to exercise any right and thus your ignorant demand will be overturned by the Courts. Further since criminal acts are not covered by ANY insurance EVER the requirement doesn't help anyone. It is purely an effort to limit ownership and coercive to boot.

The government guarantees me newspaper/internet/tv?

Nope. The government guarantees you freedom of speech. They don't make you pay for it. They guarantee me the right to vote and the right to worship. None of these require a license fee. Heck, the government takes the right to worship so seriously that religious institutions don't have to pay taxes. Compare that with gun manufacturers.

Sorry, bud. Brrrr... you lose. But don't give up. Keep trying to twist yourself into a pretzel. I am enjoying it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The government guarantees me newspaper/internet/tv?

Nope. The government guarantees you freedom of speech. They don't make you pay for it. They guarantee me the right to vote and the right to worship. None of these require a license fee. Heck, the government takes the right to worship so seriously that religious institutions don't have to pay taxes. Compare that with gun manufacturers.

Sorry, bud. Brrrr... you lose. But don't give up. Keep trying to twist yourself into a pretzel. I am enjoying it.

LOL you are a moron keep proving it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

San Jose gun owners could be required to purchase liability insurance and pay an annual fee on their weapons under an ordinance the city council is expected to approve this week.

The proposed ordinance would require gun owners to pay an annual fee of roughly $25 as well as administrative costs to the city. Gun owners would also be required to maintain liability insurance in the event their gun is used for violence or a crime.

Mayor Sam Liccardo, who introduced the two proposals last June after a Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority employee killed nine of his co-workers and himself, likened the insurance requirement to motorists having car insurance.

Tuesday Morning News Roundup

San Jose gun owners could be required to purchase liability insurance and pay an annual...

www.sfgate.com

The mass shooter who spawned this law was a well-paid, law-abiding employee up until the point he went apeshit and shot dead 9 of his coworkers.

He would've just bought the insurance.

Or maybe that's what the law is for? To provide compensation to the victims?

Doesn't make much sense to me.

….shall not be infringed

 

[Magnus]

LOL you are a moron keep proving it.

 

[White 6]

Just by thinking about it. That's essentially why we have government. So we can get along in society without constant risk of conflict or injury.

I don't follow, but you didn't answer my question. Should websites be required to have insurance before they're allowed to exercise their free speech rights?

I have never heard of anybody shot by a website in my life. I have never been brought to harm by a website. Try again.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I have never heard of anybody shot by a website in my life. I have never been brought to harm by a website. Try again.

words kill and hurt according to you liberals so answer the question.

 

[White 6]

words kill and hurt according to you liberals so answer the question.

I need to meet one of these liberals. You pretty well have to physically assault me or mine or start an action to take my money. I am fairly prepared for either.