Same sex marriage OR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

 

[HappyJoy]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

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What legislation are you talking about?

 

[Skylar]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

Churches are explicitly exempted from PA laws. No PA law has every applied to a church.

The only one arguing that churches are subject to PA laws.....are you and your ilk. Not the law. Not the courts.

 

[HappyJoy]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

 

[BlackSand]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

Churches are explicitly exempted from PA laws. No PA law has every applied to a church.

The only one arguing that churches are subject to PA laws.....are you and your ilk. Not the law. Not the courts.

SCOTUS applies to the country and not just PA ... Today is a great example of that.

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[Skylar]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

Churches are explicitly exempted from PA laws. No PA law has every applied to a church.

The only one arguing that churches are subject to PA laws.....are you and your ilk. Not the law. Not the courts.

SCOTUS applies to the country and not just PA ... Today is a great example of that.

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The SCOTUS has never found that PA laws apply to religion. Not even after churches refused to perform interracial marriages. As I said the only folks arguing that PA laws apply to churches.....are you and your ilk.

 

[BlackSand]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

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What legislation are you talking about?

ObamaCare ... SCOTUS ruled on it earlier this week.
Review Chief Justice Robert's Decision if you are wondering what I meant ... He decided that what was written in the legislation would not be fair, so the legislators must have meant something different when they passed the law.

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[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

It doesn't matter how it has been handled. It matters how it's handle from 10 am EST yesterday moving forward.

 

[HappyJoy]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

It doesn't matter how it has been handled. It matters how it's handle from 10 am EST yesterday moving forward.

You're saying the churches are going to be sued out of existence or whatever. When has it happened before? When has a church ever been sued over gay marriage successfully or at all on a local level? Surely gay rights group would have tried this before if they wanted to get ridof religion, right?

 

[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

.

What legislation are you talking about?

ObamaCare ... SCOTUS ruled on it earlier this week.
Review Chief Justice Robert's Decision if you are wondering what I meant ... He decided that what was written in the legislation would not be fair, so the legislators must have meant something different when they passed the law.

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Exactly. This gets way worse. BOTH of these last 2 SC decisions can now ruin this country.

 

[AntiParty]

Churches will be forced to marry homosexuals or be shut down.

They won't shut them down ... They will remove their tax exempt status.
People are still going to pray ... The government just wants their cut.

Churches aren't even obligated to marry straight couples.

Minor oversight ... Not that it matters.

But anyway ... It is pretty much a done deal and some people had a really good day.
You might as well be happy for them ... Because that is about all you have left.

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More incrementalism. First they take away their tax exempt status, then they shut them down.

So your theory is......that 'they' are trying to shut down all religion?

Holy fuck. That is some quality batshit.

The moment you FORCE a church to marry against it's beliefs you do exactly that. There is no limit to how far one can go. Period.

It won't happen.

Even though this Country is new and small brains are wondering if this is going to happen and bias brains are wanting this to happen,it won't happen.

I would LOVE to hear a story of a Church that was forced to marry a gay couple. Because it would remind me of Black People who weren't allowed to use the same bathrooms as whites. I'm not saying gays should be pushing for Religious oppression, but come on.....A little "look at what you have been doing" is funny.

 

[BlackSand]

The SCOTUS has never found that PA laws apply to religion. Not even after churches refused to perform interracial marriages. As I said the only folks arguing that PA laws apply to churches.....are you and your ilk.

What part of "It doesn't matter what PA's laws are if SCOTUS decides they shouldn't apply" ... Did you not understand?

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[Judicial review]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

It doesn't matter how it has been handled. It matters how it's handle from 10 am EST yesterday moving forward.

You're saying the churches are going to be sued out of existence or whatever. When has it happened before?

No the US Constution has protected them. Now when you have 2 equally important rights protected now under the constitution like Same sex marriage and Freedom of religion they will have to meet in court becuase BOTH same sex couples AND Churches are fighting the same thing now that their rights are being violated and there can only be "1" ruling and "1" pick. Now do you understand my point?

 

[HappyJoy]

The SCOTUS has never found that PA laws apply to religion. Not even after churches refused to perform interracial marriages. As I said the only folks arguing that PA laws apply to churches.....are you and your ilk.

What part of "It doesn't matter what PA's laws are if SCOTUS decides they shouldn't apply" ... Did you not understand?

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Hint: PA is not the PA you're thinking of.

 

[Skylar]

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

If the courts can decide that the language of the legislation doesn't match the intent of the legislation (Like SCOTUS and ObamaCare) ... Then it is not a question of if you can win the case ... And more a question of "did you take it to the right court".

.

What legislation are you talking about?

ObamaCare ... SCOTUS ruled on it earlier this week.
Review Chief Justice Robert's Decision if you are wondering what I meant ... He decided that what was written would not be fair so the legislators must have meant something different when they passed the law.

.

The idiot who say no one will sue a church now if fucking retarded and will get annihilated once it happens and should be labeled a communist for believing in restricting freedom. This thread is officially bookmarked.

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

It doesn't matter how it has been handled. It matters how it's handle from 10 am EST yesterday moving forward.

You do realize that you have zero examples in our history....of anything you're describing regarding churches, right?

You're basing your entire argument on your imagination of the future. A topic you know nothing about.

 

[Skylar]

The SCOTUS has never found that PA laws apply to religion. Not even after churches refused to perform interracial marriages. As I said the only folks arguing that PA laws apply to churches.....are you and your ilk.

What part of "It doesn't matter what PA's laws are if SCOTUS decides they shouldn't apply" ... Did you not understand?

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The SCOTUS has never decided they apply. Ever. They never suggested, insinuated, or even hinted that they apply. Nor have they ever granted cert to a single case involving someone suing a church for not marrying them.

Your entire argument, from top to bottom, is pure imagination.

 

[AntiParty]

"The Bible Rapture makes me scared of gays, it's the END OF THE WORLD!"

 

[HappyJoy]

Anybody can sue, it's whether they win the lawsuit or how soon it's thrown out of court that matters.

EDIT: How have the churches in Massachusetts handled the onslaught of lawsuits over the issue of gay marriage the last decade?

gay marriage wasn't a fundamental right recognized by the US Supreme court as part of the US Constitution till 17 hrs ago. That's why.

I think the state recognized it as such, how have the churches handled all these lawsuits in the state supreme court? How many lawsuits have been filed in the state court?

It doesn't matter how it has been handled. It matters how it's handle from 10 am EST yesterday moving forward.

You're saying the churches are going to be sued out of existence or whatever. When has it happened before?

No the US Constution has protected them. Now when you have 2 equally important rights protected now under the constitution like Same sex marriage and Freedom of religion they will have to meet in court becuase BOTH same sex couples AND Churches are fighting the same thing now that their rights are being violated and there can only be "1" ruling and "1" pick.

Are you saying that a straight Catholic couple has the right to enter a synagogue and get married?

Religious institutions have the right to marry whoever they want to, that's completely their decision and that right is protected under the constitution. You're argument has no bearing, there is no legal dilemma between gay marriage and religious institutions, they don't have to participate. Some do currently and probably more will eventually but that is for those organizations to decide themselves.

 

[AntiParty]

I met a Budist family in America. Their perspective of our American Gay perspective blew their mind.

Are we "Freedom of Religion" or "Forced Religion?

 

[BlackSand]

Hint: PA is not the PA you're thinking of.

Public Accommodation Laws ... Pennsylvania Laws ... It doesn't make a difference when the highest court in the land can change the meaning of the language in any law if they so chose.

At that point ... They are legislating from the bench.
At that point it doesn't matter what the law says ... Who passed it or what it applies to ... The court is going to change it to suit their desires.

They already did it once this week.



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