"Florida Has A 1st Amendment Problem" - Judge Rules Trans Teacher Can Use "Ms."

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‘In Tallahassee, Florida, a federal judge has ruled that a transgender woman teacher no longer has to be referred to as “Mr.” or “teacher” in the classroom, citing first amendment protections. Instead, she can use “Ms.” and female pronouns. This decision follows the passage of HB1069 in Florida, which mandated that teachers could not use pronouns that “do not correspond to his or her sex.” Judge Mark Walker enjoined the state from enforcing the law against her, stating, “The State of Florida has not justified this grave restraint, and so the United States Constitution does not tolerate it. Ours is a Union of individuals, celebrating ourselves and singing ourselves and being ourselves without apology.”
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The judge commenced his ruling with a scathing critique of the state, writing, “Once again, the State of Florida has a First Amendment problem. It has occurred so frequently of late, some might say you can set your clock by it… The question before this Court is whether the First Amendment allows the State to dictate, without limitation, how public-school teachers refer to themselves when communicating with students. The answer is a thunderous ‘no.’”’


Very good.

Florida also has an authoritarian Republican problem; a rightwing bigotry and hate problem.
 
‘In Tallahassee, Florida, a federal judge has ruled that a transgender woman teacher no longer has to be referred to as “Mr.” or “teacher” in the classroom, citing first amendment protections. Instead, she can use “Ms.” and female pronouns. This decision follows the passage of HB1069 in Florida, which mandated that teachers could not use pronouns that “do not correspond to his or her sex.” Judge Mark Walker enjoined the state from enforcing the law against her, stating, “The State of Florida has not justified this grave restraint, and so the United States Constitution does not tolerate it. Ours is a Union of individuals, celebrating ourselves and singing ourselves and being ourselves without apology.”
[...]
The judge commenced his ruling with a scathing critique of the state, writing, “Once again, the State of Florida has a First Amendment problem. It has occurred so frequently of late, some might say you can set your clock by it… The question before this Court is whether the First Amendment allows the State to dictate, without limitation, how public-school teachers refer to themselves when communicating with students. The answer is a thunderous ‘no.’”’


Very good.

Florida also has an authoritarian Republican problem; a rightwing bigotry and hate problem.
the premise of the OP is a lie,,

what it wants is to force other people what to say, thats compelled speech,,

it can call itself anything it wants,,

no 1st A violation,,
so move along
 
‘In Tallahassee, Florida, a federal judge has ruled that a transgender woman teacher no longer has to be referred to as “Mr.” or “teacher” in the classroom, citing first amendment protections. Instead, she can use “Ms.” and female pronouns. This decision follows the passage of HB1069 in Florida, which mandated that teachers could not use pronouns that “do not correspond to his or her sex.” Judge Mark Walker enjoined the state from enforcing the law against her, stating, “The State of Florida has not justified this grave restraint, and so the United States Constitution does not tolerate it. Ours is a Union of individuals, celebrating ourselves and singing ourselves and being ourselves without apology.”
[...]
The judge commenced his ruling with a scathing critique of the state, writing, “Once again, the State of Florida has a First Amendment problem. It has occurred so frequently of late, some might say you can set your clock by it… The question before this Court is whether the First Amendment allows the State to dictate, without limitation, how public-school teachers refer to themselves when communicating with students. The answer is a thunderous ‘no.’”’


Very good.

Florida also has an authoritarian Republican problem; a rightwing bigotry and hate problem.
Good to see the court system is wasting its time on this. It's a he.
 
The judge ruled that (he) she can use whatever the hell pronoun she wants. So what's the freaking problem? The decision doesn't prevent other Americans from using their 1st Amendment right to laugh at the concept.
 
the premise of the OP is a lie,,

what it wants is to force other people what to say, thats compelled speech,,

it can call itself anything it wants,,

no 1st A violation,,
so move along

No one thinks. They just react. The court ruled the teacher can call themselves Ms. The court didn't rule on forcing others to do anything.

It's all just made up words at that. 100 years ago no one used Ms at all. Some one just decided to make it up.
 
teach them Japan bombed Alaska on Dec 7th?

Actually, Japan bombed Alaska on the 3rd and 4th of June, 1942 ... as a part of a larger operation to eliminate US Navy forward operating bases in the North Pacific.

Many US personnel will killed in the attack on Attu and Kiska Islands in the Aleutian Island Chain.
 
Actually, Japan bombed Alaska on the 3rd and 4th of June, 1942 ... as a part of a larger operation to eliminate US Navy forward operating bases in the North Pacific.

Many US personnel will killed in the attack on Attu and Kiska Islands in the Aleutian Island Chain.
but NOT on Dec 7th, per my post?
 
No one thinks. They just react. The court ruled the teacher can call themselves Ms. The court didn't rule on forcing others to do anything.

It's all just made up words at that. 100 years ago no one used Ms at all. Some one just decided to make it up.
Lots of precedent for schools to limit free speech in school for the purposes of maintaining an orderly classroom environment.

Like the Bong Hits for Jesus case from 2007.
 
Lots of precedent for schools to limit free speech in school for the purposes of maintaining an orderly classroom environment.

Like the Bong Hits for Jesus case from 2007.

Restrictions are generally confined to students and even then I rarely agree.
 
shame he is teaching his students to lie.

What next?

teach them Japan bombed Alaska on Dec 7th?

Paul Revere was a traitor?
What they will NOT be teaching in Florida is that AIPAC owns the federal government, and likely the state government as well.
 
The judge ruled that (he) she can use whatever the hell pronoun she wants. So what's the freaking problem? The decision doesn't prevent other Americans from using their 1st Amendment right to laugh at the concept.
Yet the State can determine the exact curriculum, thereby limiting speech. Can 'teachers' sue to spend the whole day talking about whatever they want with no regard to education? Another example of activist judges who are clearly out of touch with reality.
 
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‘In Tallahassee, Florida, a federal judge has ruled that a transgender woman teacher no longer has to be referred to as “Mr.” or “teacher” in the classroom, citing first amendment protections. Instead, she can use “Ms.” and female pronouns. This decision follows the passage of HB1069 in Florida, which mandated that teachers could not use pronouns that “do not correspond to his or her sex.” Judge Mark Walker enjoined the state from enforcing the law against her, stating, “The State of Florida has not justified this grave restraint, and so the United States Constitution does not tolerate it. Ours is a Union of individuals, celebrating ourselves and singing ourselves and being ourselves without apology.”
[...]
The judge commenced his ruling with a scathing critique of the state, writing, “Once again, the State of Florida has a First Amendment problem. It has occurred so frequently of late, some might say you can set your clock by it… The question before this Court is whether the First Amendment allows the State to dictate, without limitation, how public-school teachers refer to themselves when communicating with students. The answer is a thunderous ‘no.’”’


Very good.

Florida also has an authoritarian Republican problem; a rightwing bigotry and hate problem.

Just another "MAP" educator

Hint.....MAP equals pedophile. Fact
 
Restrictions are generally confined to students and even then I rarely agree.
Teacher's are not allowed to "teach"/"speak about" just anything they want on the school's dime.

For example, a teacher has a 1st amendment right to voice her support for a particular political candidate such as Trump or Biden. That said, it would be inappropriate for a teacher to actively campaign for either of the two candidates in the classroom. Of course the students most probably are not old enough to vote, but that's beside the point.
 
Teacher's are not allowed to "teach"/"speak about" just anything they want on the school's dime.

For example, a teacher has a 1st amendment right to voice her support for a particular political candidate such as Trump or Biden. That said, it would be inappropriate for a teacher to actively campaign for either of the two candidates in the classroom. Of course the students most probably are not old enough to vote, but that's beside the point.
I think there is a good chance that the ruling will get overturned on appeal.
 

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