Ryan calls for ending oil subsidies

[Mr. Shaman]

Sounds good to me. Let's cut subsidies and cut the red tape. Let them earn their money by producing gasoline for us to use.

Praise the LAWD!!!

We gotta FLIP-FLOPPIN' TEABAGGER!!!

(...Or, is that a Teabaggin' Flip-Flopper?????

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[Avatar4321]

When have I ever supported subsidies?

Are you going to support Ryan as he tries to eliminate them? Or are you just going to mock him?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

Nor will the democrats.

Gee....that almost makes sense.

 

[Avorysuds]

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

Nor will the democrats.

Why would ANYONE? R, D or I be against cutting out corporate welfare for these oil companies?

LOL, for the same reason you said:

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

I swear, this is more and more like the Reagan revolution. The idealogues kept proposing cutting this and that, and the establishment pols kept slapping the knife away.

......And.....Voilà!!!!!

A Republican-Icon is BORN!!!

 

[Trajan]

yea, whats another 20 cents.

 

[Avatar4321]

So Shaman, I take it you don't support ending the subsidy?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

I think the days of special favors for special interest groups is about to be over.

We can't afford it.

It's called CHANGE!!!

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[Avatar4321]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

I think the days of special favors for special interest groups is about to be over.

We can't afford it.

It's called CHANGE!!!

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And it took Republicans getting elected to Congress to start it

 

[Trajan]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

No he doesn't.

Or it would have been in his budget. Along with funding the IRS to get some 300 Billion dollars in tax money from cheats.

he just said it....in any event can you direct me to obamas plan?

 

[Trajan]

and its not a subsidy its a tax break.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Nor will the democrats.

Why would ANYONE? R, D or I be against cutting out corporate welfare for these oil companies?

Grover Norquist calls this kind of cut a tax increase, and thus opposes it.

....And, who'd ever disagree with HIS judgement??!!!​

October 24, 2005​

"By February 2003, Cohen's position had been enshrined as official policy, in the form of a hundred-page blueprint for the occupied nation titled, "Moving the Iraqi Economy from Recovery to Sustainable Growth"-a plan that generally embodied the principles for postwar Iraq favored by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and the Iran-Contra figure Elliott Abrams, now Deputy National Security Adviser. Nominally written by a committee of Defense, State, and Treasury officials, the blueprint was in fact the brainchild of a platoon of corporate lobbyists, chief among them the flattax fanatic Grover Norquist. From overhauling tax rates to rewriting copyright law, the document mapped out a radical makeover of Iraq as a free-market Xanadu-a sort of Chile on the Tigris-including the sell-off of the nation's crown jewels: "privatization... [of] the oil and supporting industries."

Economic Conquest of Iraq​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

When have I ever supported subsidies?

Are you going to support Ryan as he tries to eliminate them? Or are you just going to mock him?

Yeah.....we wouldn't want to mock that.....

....little FASCIST PRICK!!!!!

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"Here's the difference: under Ryan's plan, the government pays a set amount for Medicare and you pay for the rest. So far, that's pretty similar to the congressional plan. But that set amount goes up very slowly under Ryan's plan — much more slowly than the actual rise in the cost of health insurance — which means that seniors have to pay a bigger and bigger share of the total premium cost as the years go by."

Paul Ryan vs. The Truth​

 

[Avatar4321]

When have I ever supported subsidies?

Are you going to support Ryan as he tries to eliminate them? Or are you just going to mock him?

Yeah.....we wouldn't want to mock that.....

....little FASCIST PRICK!!!!!

Or answer a question either, it seems.

 

[Avorysuds]

When have I ever supported subsidies?

Are you going to support Ryan as he tries to eliminate them? Or are you just going to mock him?

Yeah.....we wouldn't want to mock that.....

....little FASCIST PRICK!!!!!

Or answer a question either, it seems.

You should concider ignore for shaman lol, it's good times.

 

[Zona]

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

Nor will the democrats.

Why would ANYONE? R, D or I be against cutting out corporate welfare for these oil companies?

Why would they not be for raising (not lowering) the tax for the top 2%? Its a no brainer really.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I like Ryan. He's showing some real leadership. No one should support Corporate Welfare. Go get em Mr. Ryan!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

“We’re talking about reforming the safety net, the welfare system; we also want to get rid of corporate welfare. And corporate welfare goes to agribusiness companies, energy companies, financial services companies, so we propose to repeal all that,” Ryan said in response to a question about oil subsidies.



Read more: Ryan calls for ending oil subsidies - Robin Bravender - POLITICO.com

Is this just Ryan trying to get people off of his "kill MediCare" message?

No.

His plan actually follows some of the recommendations of Obama's fiscal commission. He wants to expand the tax base by eliminating tax loopholes and subsidies.

By the way, the only real subsidies the oil industry gets is for their investments in developing alternative energy. Most of the stuff that is getting labelled as subsidies by Democrats are nothing more than tax write offs for expenses, which allows the companies to recoup some of the money they lose in drilling bad wells or dealing with massive government regulation.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No I think he means it.

And good for him for raising the issue.

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

Obama is going to be the biggest problem Ryan has in getting rid of those subsidies. He has a distinct fondness for handing out taxpayer money to companies that invest in things he likes. Why do you think he is coming down so hard against Ryan's plan? You don't really believe it is about protecting seniors who tend to vote Republican, do you?

 

[Bern80]

Boehner and the other GOP faithful won't appreciate it....

Nor will the democrats.

Why would ANYONE? R, D or I be against cutting out corporate welfare for these oil companies?

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