Rx for the Democrats

[jc456]

Van Jones was the best of the evening

 

[jc456]

As long as dark money can flow freely to the candidates. And not a moment sooner.

I've said money must be removed for over a decade. Since obammy's second victory.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Let's hear more about "dark money".

Okay!

It's called "dark", because nobody has to show you how much or where it came from.

And so, a few rich people can drown out the voices of literally the entire voting populace.

This gives a much larger forum to the candidates of their choice. More ads. More eyes and ears on their candidate.

And propaganda -- also called "advertising" -- works.

Also, these rich people like to bet on a horse that will win or show. Not on some libertarian or green party candidate doomed to get 5%.

And voters like to vote for a candidate that can win or show. Not for a candidate doomed to lose.

And there you have it. Enjoy scoffing at the PACs and watching RCV elect democrats and Republicans. Maybe you'll wake up one day.

 

[dblack]

I've said money must be removed for over a decade. Since obammy's second victory.

Of course you have. Ds and Rs agree - only they should be in charge of deciding who we're allowed to vote for.

 

[jc456]

Of course you have. Ds and Rs agree - only they should be in charge of deciding who we're allowed to vote for.

take money out, allows multiple candidates, I thought that was your thingy?

 

[dblack]

And there you have it.

Have what? All you're saying is that only the two entrenched parties should have the power to influence elections. Fuck that. The two party shitshow needs to go.

 

[dblack]

take money out, allows multiple candidates, I thought that was your thingy?

LOL - it does huh? Let's walk through it.

How many candidates can run?
How much money do they get?
Most importantly, who decides?

 

[jc456]

Have what? All you're saying is that only the two entrenched parties should have the power to influence elections. Fuck that. The two party shitshow needs to go.

got to get money out of politics first.

 

[dblack]

got to get money out of politics first.

How?

 

[jc456]

LOL - it does huh? Let's walk through it.

How many candidates can run?
How much money do they get?
Most importantly, who decides?

quite a few if you look at the latest election.

Third party
Green
independent
repub
dem

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

All you're saying is that only the two entrenched parties should have the power to influence elections

Now explain why that is. Use your big boy words.

Why would getting rid of citizens united do what you describe?

Funny thing is the 2 parties have a stranglehold on campaign money because of pacs. So on its face, what you're saying makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats cannot do any of that. I predict that they will slide even more to the progressive left. Get ready for the loons to try their damnedest to out loony each other.

Mac = it’s easy. Act normal.

It’s like telling a fat person to get skinny. lol.

Easier said than done.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How?

Ban lobbying

 

[jc456]

How?

put back the law on how much one can donate to a candidate.

Federal campaign finance laws and regulations

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ban lobbying

You can't ban lobbying. It's how us citizens petition their representatives.

We could certainly ban the money that flows from Lobbyists.

 

[dblack]

quite a few if you look at the latest election.

Third party
Green
independent
repub
dem

Which few? Do all the 18,000 people who want to run for President get the same amount of campaign funds. Or will there be "requires and qualifications". I assume there will be, so who will determine what those requirements are? HINT: it will be sitting government. You're arguing for a system where the current regime gets to decide who can run against it. Think about it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You can't ban lobbying. It's how us citizens petition their representatives.

We could certainly ban the money that flows from Lobbyists.

Ban the tobacco lobby. Pharma lobby. It’s illegal in Europe

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do all the 18,000 people who want to run for President get the same amount of campaign funds.

No.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ban the tobacco lobby. Pharma lobby. It’s illegal in Europe

So, ban certain industry specific lobbyists. I could get on board with that.

 

[jc456]

Which few? Do all the 18,000 people who want to run for President get the same amount of campaign funds. Or will there be "requires and qualifications". I assume there will be, so who will determine what those requirements are? HINT: it will be sitting government. You're arguing for a system where the current regime gets to decide who can run against it. Think about it.

I'd love to see that indeed. Here's a pool of money, get your signatures and get your name on the ballot and here's your money, no more after that, so use it wisely. What's wrong with an even playing field? Demofks love them the equality thingy!!!!