Nobody is supporting Putin and the ones from our side are denouncing Zelensky and his Khazarian Mafia and their money laundering, drug and sex slave trafficking. Putin is trying to put a stop to it. The left here are arguing about things they know nothing about. So far in the past 10 months, I have repeatedly invited those boobs to do a little research but no one seems to have time. Our country has been sucked into an evil regime and pouring billions into criminal activities.
I would disagree. No one is saying Ukraine is perfect, no state is, and everyone acknowledges corruption was long a big problem (as it is in Russia as well).
The current
conflict is hugely increasing sex trafficking among refugees and large numbers of internally displaced people. Prior to the conflict, we’d long been working with and supporting anti-corruption groups and tied funding to improvement because it was a significant problem.
Sources on this:
Data and research on bribery and corruption including tax crime, bribery in international business, money laundering and public sector corruption., This page contains all information relating to Ukraine's participation in the OECD Anti-corruption Network for Eastern Europe and Central Asia and...
www.oecd.org
Amid likely GOP control of the House, strong steps would help Ukraine get the assistance it needs, while advancing reforms and EU accession.
www.justsecurity.org
(Imo, this is a good overall article in how we should be handling this). The article notes several important points.
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for as long as Putin has ruled Russia, he has tried to subvert Ukrainian democracy by bankrolling pro-Russian political parties in Ukraine and controlling media outlets there through his favored oligarchs.
Ukrainian anti-corruption reforms since 2014 have been making that harder, according to a case study published by the U.S. Agency for International Development. Ukraine has built the most transparent political-economic system anywhere, featuring the world’s first public beneficial ownership registry, most transparent public procurement system, most well-enforced and comprehensive asset declarations, first public database of politically exposed persons, and other innovative digital disclosure systems. Cases of grand corruption fall under the jurisdiction of a set of specialized anti-corruption bodies dedicated to investigation, prosecution, high court, and asset recovery. However, three of these new specialized institutions, including the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), currently lack permanent leadership. Other important areas of the state remain unreformed, such as the ordinary judicial system all the way up to the constitutional court.
The article also points out that corruption played a big part in the failures of the Russian military.
You are right, Putin IS trying to put a stop to it, because their anti- corruption efforts are removing Russia from it’s internal politics and reducing it’s influence.
Is Ukraine perfect? No. But it is trending towards improvement, an improvement Russia does not want to see.
I disagree with what you seem to to say are Russia’s intentions. There is no benevolence associated with Russia’s long term priorities here, certainly not putting a stop to corruption, money laundering or human trafficking. Putin is ruthless when it comes acquiring and holding power. Russia, culturally and politically has long struggled with trying to be included at tbe “big boys” table, even more so with the break up of the Soviet Union. Every independent country Russia has targeted under false pretenses, was once part of it’s former empire either directly or as a satellite: Georgia, Chechnya, Moldova, Ukraine. In fact there is significant reason to believe the so called terrorist bombing that leveled an apartment building and was blamed on Chechnya leading to the second Chechnyans war, was engineered by Putin as it dramatically increased his power.
Ukraine was heading in the right direction, it is fighting for it’s existence as a democratic state, it did not start this war.
On the other hand look at Russia and it’s own record in this conflict.
The deliberate and constant targeting of civilians.
Forced population transfers to Russia’s interior.
”Filtration” camps and ethnic cleansing.
All of this heartens back to Stalin’s days, and in a large part led to the ethnic disputes in the region.
If you look at human trafficking, Russia also doesn’t look very good, sitting at Tier 3, alongside Myanmar, Afghanistan, North Korea. Ukraine was Tier 2 in 2020, now,
since the conflict it has slid down to Tier 4, pretty bad.
Prior to the conflict, Ukraine was at least trending in the right direction but still in need of more reform.
So do you support Russia Or Ukraine in this and why?
I support Ukraine, not because it is perfect, but it is a sovereign nation, fighting for it’s existence as a nation AND a culture (note that Russia is deliberately wiping out all traces of Ukrainian identity and culture in the areas it controls, it is engaging in a brutal suppression, forced population transfers, ethnic cleansing and war crimes that come pretty close to genocide).
If Russia takes Ukraine (or even the regions bordering the sea, where it chokes off Ukraines commerce and land locks it into a vassal state) what nation, from it’s former empire is next and what does that mean for a long established rules based world order that has provided overall stability for over 80 years?
