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Let's stick to Franklin Roosevelt, and his love affair with Marxist Russia.
You're attempts to change the subject means I win again, huh?
Russian and American History: Tied Together
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Let's stick to Franklin Roosevelt, and his love affair with Marxist Russia.
You're attempts to change the subject means I win again, huh?
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Sunni Man
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MoonGoon, I don't believe that PC is lying about anything. She just presents facts. .......
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4. Orwell wrote in1984, "One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish the dictatorship." The first Communist state had arrived."
Lenin and the First Communist Revolutions IV
a. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, when Kerensky ordered the Bolshevik press closed." The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union
b. The US Constitution forbids 'ex post facto' laws....and Roosevelt told the American public that Russia fought for the same things as America.....
In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include "enemy of the people."
...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'
"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used byVladimir Leninafter coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:
"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court." Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"
c. The cause of our lack of understanding about the sinister nature of the Soviet Union, genocide, oppression, slaughter....when it come to Soviet crime' is the lies that Franklin Roosevelt told the public in support of Stalin.
Loy Henderson, State Department Russian expert said: "Russia does not fight for the same ideals as the United States."
Roosevelt swore to the American public the exact opposite: he declared that Stalin fought for the same ideals!
FDR was lying!
September 30, 1941, FDR claimed that there was freedom of religion in the USSR."The claim that Stalin's Russia allowed religious freedom was the first step ina massive pro-Soviet campaign that the White House coordinated for the duration of the war."
"Caught between Roosevelt and Stalin: America's Ambassadors to Moscow," by Dennis J. Dunn, p. 137
Yet, hordes of self-proclaimed intellectuals practice what of what Aquinas called 'ignorantia affectata - a cultivated ignorance'.
For them...and there are is a prime example of this in this thread, nothing could be worse than revealing the truth about FDR!
Lenin and the First Communist Revolutions IV
a. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, when Kerensky ordered the Bolshevik press closed." The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union
b. The US Constitution forbids 'ex post facto' laws....and Roosevelt told the American public that Russia fought for the same things as America.....
In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include "enemy of the people."
...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'
"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used byVladimir Leninafter coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:
"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court." Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"
c. The cause of our lack of understanding about the sinister nature of the Soviet Union, genocide, oppression, slaughter....when it come to Soviet crime' is the lies that Franklin Roosevelt told the public in support of Stalin.
Loy Henderson, State Department Russian expert said: "Russia does not fight for the same ideals as the United States."
Roosevelt swore to the American public the exact opposite: he declared that Stalin fought for the same ideals!
FDR was lying!
September 30, 1941, FDR claimed that there was freedom of religion in the USSR."The claim that Stalin's Russia allowed religious freedom was the first step ina massive pro-Soviet campaign that the White House coordinated for the duration of the war."
"Caught between Roosevelt and Stalin: America's Ambassadors to Moscow," by Dennis J. Dunn, p. 137
Yet, hordes of self-proclaimed intellectuals practice what of what Aquinas called 'ignorantia affectata - a cultivated ignorance'.
For them...and there are is a prime example of this in this thread, nothing could be worse than revealing the truth about FDR!
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Nothing in the article spoke of FDR, only a skim of the revolution of 1917....MoonGoon, I don't believe that PC is lying about anything. She just presents facts. .......
Be specific: what are you denying?
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Try to be more articulate: what point are you trying to make....
...I'm sure it is in defense of Roosevelt, but in what way?
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"Other nations blah blah blah...."
Running for President, Kerry proposed America pass a global test. In order to defend ourselves, we’d have to get international approval.
You too, huh?
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5. Of course, there are other indicia of a police state:
a. "Almost immediately after they seized power, Lenin's Bolsheviks inaugurated an endless stream of economic decrees and policies.... resulting in a horrific famine, depopulation of the cities, and an enormous decline in living standards.... Stringent price controls upon and forced requisitioning of agricultural products; state monopoly on grain purchases. Forced labor for civilians as well as the military." Lenin and the First Communist Revolutions VII
b. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.
Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.
Franklin Roosevelt became President in 1933. Did he know about the establishment of a police state in Russia,?
He offered Stalin America's friendship, and to Russia, the recognition that prior President's withheld, in the very first year of his presidency: November of 1933.
Why?
Franklin Roosevelt: closet totalitarian.
No wonder he enjoyed fond relations with Mussolini and Hitler as well as 'Uncle Joe.'
a. "Almost immediately after they seized power, Lenin's Bolsheviks inaugurated an endless stream of economic decrees and policies.... resulting in a horrific famine, depopulation of the cities, and an enormous decline in living standards.... Stringent price controls upon and forced requisitioning of agricultural products; state monopoly on grain purchases. Forced labor for civilians as well as the military." Lenin and the First Communist Revolutions VII
b. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.
Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.
Franklin Roosevelt became President in 1933. Did he know about the establishment of a police state in Russia,?
He offered Stalin America's friendship, and to Russia, the recognition that prior President's withheld, in the very first year of his presidency: November of 1933.
Why?
Franklin Roosevelt: closet totalitarian.
No wonder he enjoyed fond relations with Mussolini and Hitler as well as 'Uncle Joe.'
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PC thinks cutting and pasting disjointed, out of context piece is objective evidence.
Well, we read here and Vigilante for grins and chuckles.
Well, we read here and Vigilante for grins and chuckles.
NYcarbineer
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To see how many bored housewives he could get to obsess on it?
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So....neither Dumb nor Dumber above could find a single error in my posts.
Good to see you two imbeciles working up to your ability.
But...I'm in a good mood, my nation's birthday on the horizon....
Sooooo.....
Not necessary for you guys to confer...I will accept one omnibus grovel to cover all past and future such failings. Ready?
Good to see you two imbeciles working up to your ability.
But...I'm in a good mood, my nation's birthday on the horizon....
Sooooo.....
Not necessary for you guys to confer...I will accept one omnibus grovel to cover all past and future such failings. Ready?
JakeStarkey
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Your posts are full of errors, we always point them out, you always say "no no" and not answer the rebuttals, but you do attack us personally. This is the part we live for, so other posters new to you will get to this point and go, "she is a dipshit." Yes.
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I doubt Reagan will go on Rushmore simply because he voted for FDR. Seem it would take more than an FDR vote to put anyone on Rushmore, after all most Americans voted for FDR four times, too many for Rushmore?
Delta4Embassy
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Since we never threw nukes at one another (though have come disturbingly close a few times,) everything the US AND Russia have done covertly against each other is good.
Not only does the US (and everyone else) owe Russian President Putin their lives, their children's lives, etc. but there's a KGB high-ranking officer we owe our lives to as well. Look into the history of cold war espinoge and you'll learn some interesting things about all that. My advice though if you see the term 'Able Archer' or 'Putin nuclear briefcase' skip it. You'll be happier.
Not only does the US (and everyone else) owe Russian President Putin their lives, their children's lives, etc. but there's a KGB high-ranking officer we owe our lives to as well. Look into the history of cold war espinoge and you'll learn some interesting things about all that. My advice though if you see the term 'Able Archer' or 'Putin nuclear briefcase' skip it. You'll be happier.
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