Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion

[Zavulon]

The Trump plan failed on arrival. Europe will solve this.

Looks like, Europe will be eliminated. The only question is will America be eliminated with Europe.

 

[Litwin]

Ukraine are the problem, just as well as no one claims that the civilians of Russia

You put the offenders and the victims in the same box—a very oriental (so called : Byzantine) way of seeing the world. Are you a Turk, Arab, Greek, Muscovite, or Somali‑American?

We White Christians see the world differently:

 

[Litwin]

Decolonization of Moscow

empire is the only way to end Moscow wars of GENOCIDAL conquest, And I don’t mean putin´s imperialism, but Moscow imperialism in general , from navalny, pushkin and solzhenitsyn to dugin, and brodsky.

 

[beagle9]

You put the offenders and the victims in the same box—a very oriental (so called : Byzantine) way of seeing the world. Are you a Turk, Arab, Greek, Muscovite, or Somali‑American?

We White Christians see the world differently:

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Careful how you parse my words or cut and paste them in order to attempt to change the context/meaning by doing so.

You will be reported for breaking the rules.

 

[JWBooth]

Just tell me. How many of you Putin fans post here?

Just tell me. How many of you clueless dumbfucks post here?

 

[Robert W]

Just tell me. How many of you clueless dumbfucks post here?

At least to your credit you never denied being a Putin fan.

 

[JWBooth]

At least to your credit you never denied being a Putin fan.

At least to your credit you never denied being a clueless dumbfuck.

 

[Litwin]

 

[AntonToo]

The key thing is that the lawful political process went out the Window when the Maidan revolution overthrew Yanukovych.

It's tough to have this conversation with people who have very little actual idea about Maidan events or Ukrainian law.

After Yanukovich was escorted by Russian special forces out of Ukraine (not clear by his own voltion or not) and refused to conduct his Constitutional responsibilities Ukraine LAWFULY asigned an acting president and held LAWFUL elections 3 months later.

Your statement that somehow law stoped working in Ukraine is a ridiculous falsehood.

 

[JoeB131]

He was impeached. Reminds me of when Democrats tried to overthrow Trump.
FACTS
Viktor Yanukovych (born July 9, 1950, Yenakiyeve, Ukraine, U.S.S.R. [now in Ukraine]) is a Ukrainian politician who served as prime minister (2002–05, 2006–07) and president (2010–14) of Ukraine. Yanukovych’s political base disintegrated in February 2014 after Ukrainian security forces opened fire on protesters in Kyiv, killing scores and wounding hundreds. On February 22, 2014, he was impeached by Ukraine’s parliament and fled to Russia ahead of a raft of criminal charges.

Yes, the EU and US spread a lot of money around to get that result.

Hey, if China spread around a bunch of money to encourage the Third Trump impeachment, how would you take that?

 

[JoeB131]

It's tough to have this conversation with people who have very little actual idea about Maidan events or Ukrainian law.

After Yanukovich was escorted by Russian special forces out of Ukraine (not clear by his own voltion or not) and refused to conduct his Constitutional responsibilities Ukraine LAWFULY asigned an acting president and held LAWFUL elections 3 months later.

Your statement that somehow law stoped working in Ukraine is a ridiculous falsehood.

I'm sure they made everything look nice and legal.

It doesn't take away from the fact the EU and US encouraged a revolt against a duly elected president.

If the Rada has the right to depose a president, then the provinces that supported him have the right to secede.

But arguing over who was "legally" right is kind of pointless.

Here's the reality. The Russians have that territory.

They aren't giving it up.

The Ukrainians can't take it back from them.

So let's all stop posturing and try to find a solution everyone can live with.

Or we can just keep feeding young Ukrainians and Russians into the meat grinder for a few more years.

 

[AntonToo]

I'm sure they made everything look nice and legal.

It doesn't take away from the fact the EU and US encouraged a revolt against a duly elected president.

That is AGAIN false.

As I've already explained the revolt happened not just because Yanukovich unilateraly refused to sign EU deal, but because in the after math he employed Berkut to violently supress what were intially peaceful protestors.

That shit may fly in Russia but Ukrainians are not obidient sheep like that and refused to tolerate illicit Kremlin style opression. Protestors demanded that Berkut leaders that gave those orders be prosecuted (Like Yanukovich, they all ran off to Russia to avoid prosecution)

Obama administration for their part was working overtime to broker a deal with Russia to keep Yanukovich in power until eletions of a new president. Your insinuation that US and EU was looking for a coup in Urakine is bs.

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/ukraine-obama-remarks-103680

 

[AntonToo]

Or, to recall the real history - it is about English-speaking colonists in Texas

Ignorant dummy, we've had WW2 since then followed by Geneva Conventions where the world decided NEVER AGAIN and to that goal has worked out international law conventions and agreements that just about all countries signed on to.

World at large has learned and progressed, Russia however is now devolving into lawless barbarianism of antiquity.

 

[Robert W]

Yes, the EU and US spread a lot of money around to get that result.

Hey, if China spread around a bunch of money to encourage the Third Trump impeachment, how would you take that?

You have a wild imagination thinking like that. What do you know that you want us to know?

 

[beagle9]

At least to your credit you never denied being a Putin fan.

Not a question of being a fan or not when it comes to trying to figure out how to get these two sides to stop fighting and killing one another, so what the question should be here, is why are you not being open minded in hopes to get at the truth by looking at both sides of the situation ?

Are you a Dembot ??

 

[Robert W]

Not a question of being a fan or not when it comes to trying to figure out how to get these two sides to stop fighting and killing one another, so what the question should be here, is why are you not being open minded in hopes to get at the truth by looking at both sides of the situation ?

Are you a Dembot ??

My avatar explains I am a solid Republican.

 

[beagle9]

My avatar explains I am a solid Republican.

Really ? Does it mean that you are a closed minded or foolish minded republican/rhino or are you just playing games ?

 

[Robert W]

Really ? Does it mean that you are a closed minded or foolish minded republican/rhino or are you just playing games ?

Strange questions.

 

[beagle9]

Strange questions.

Ok Spock...

 

[Ringo]