Russia Ukraine draw up tentative peace plan

[Delldude]

Do you have a non Russian-propaganda source for this?

Does it really matter? It's all over the evening news.

Center bias site.....LOL

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Does it really matter? It's all over the evening news.

Well that would be a source, now wouldn't it?

Yes, it does matter. I'm not going to accept such a claim without something reputable to support it. Nobody should.

 

[Delldude]

Well that would be a source, now wouldn't it?

Yes, it does matter. I'm not going to accept such a claim without something reputable to support it. Nobody should.

Listed center bias....you go from there.

 

[B. Kidd]

Peace too soon is the last thing our D.C. Swamp politicians want.
They're basking in the current attention deficit concerning doing nothing as usual for Americans and America!!

 

[badger2]

Peace too soon is the last thing our D.C. Swamp politicians want.
They're basking in the current attention deficit concerning doing nothing as usual for Americans and America!!

No, POSPOTUS JoeXi just did something for America, by calling Putin war criminal.

 

[B. Kidd]

No, POSPOTUS JoeXi just did something for America, by calling Putin war criminal.

Yupp!
Keep the tension high.

 

[Delldude]

Peace too soon is the last thing our D.C. Swamp politicians want.
They're basking in the current attention deficit concerning doing nothing as usual for Americans and America!!

We have military-industrial complex portfolio's to fill.

 

[mudwhistle]

Do you have a non Russian-propaganda source for this?

 

[Delldude]

Parallel to the Financial Times article?

Ukraine conflict: Putin lays out his demands in Turkish phone call​

Chief among them is an acceptance by Ukraine that it should be neutral and should not apply to join Nato. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has already conceded this.
There are other demands in this category which mostly seem to be face-saving elements for the Russian side.
Ukraine would have to undergo a disarmament process to ensure it wasn't a threat to Russia. There would have to be protection for the Russian language in Ukraine. And there is something called de-Nazification.

Ukraine conflict: Putin lays out his demands in Turkish phone call

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah! Why did Obama put 26 bioweapons labs in Ukraine??

 

[badbob85037]

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[Donald H]

A peace plan is going to piss off the neo-Ns in ukraine. They have been waiting for this war.

No Harley, it's America that has been waiting so long for the opportunity to challenge Russia with war.

Of course it had to be another US proxy war.

 

[Delldude]

I

Bump??

 

[AZrailwhale]

Well the Iraq war certainly did confirm America's aggressive prowar behaviour and that has to provide some indications on what caused this war and the easy solution for both sides not being possible. America has started about 40 different wars of aggression since the end of WW2. And fwiw, the Vietnam war can only be explained as US aggression, albeit with a lame excuse of stopping the spread of communism. Millions still died under US bombs, in any case. So all that is why Iraq has something to do with it.

The simple fact is, this is America's war against Russia, or vice versa, however one likes to frame it.

It's not as if anybody is unaware of that talking point now.

You decide which side's talking points are the truth.

I know you are willfully ignorant of any history, but the two wars the US fought with Iraq were because of Iraqi aggression. Iraq has been invading its neighbors since 1980. That war lasted eight years. Iraq has had a continuous series of wars and coups since 1968. In 1948 Iraq took part in the Arab attempt to exterminate the new state of Israel, in 1958 it had a coup to overthrow the King by pro-Egyptian Army officers, in 1961, Kuwait achieved freedom from British rule and Iraq immediately lay claim to the new nation and the British had to send troops to defend the new nation from Iraq. From 1963 to 1968 there was a series of coups. In the 1970s Iraq and Kuwait had a series of border squabbles.
From 1948 Iraq has done nothing but squabble and fight with its neighbors.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No Harley, it's America that has been waiting so long for the opportunity to challenge Russia with war.

Of course it had to be another US proxy war.

We don’t need to fight Russia. Russia has been a failed state practically since the CIS was created and the kleptocrats and corrupt ex-KGB agents like Putin were free to loot the country.

 

[Delldude]

We don’t need to fight Russia. Russia has been a failed state practically since the CIS was created and the kleptocrats and corrupt ex-KGB agents like Putin were free to loot the country.

Funny, why is he left so focused on overthrowing Putin?

Maybe caught in a lie regarding Trump/Russia?