Russia is providing Iran intelligence to target U.S. forces, officials say

[Correll]

In the case of more or less significant fight whoever wins - you are dead (given dependency on de-salination plants for their very survival for many Gulf states). Or you can become really neutral (including arrest of American forces) and survive. And, given example of Ukraine, smart Arabs don't think "Should we ask Americans to protect us?" They think "What can we do to not allow Americans protect us?"

Iran isn't "killing" anyone. Not on a large scale, not at this time.

Actually it's a cauldron and the water is warming.

No, it's not. This will not be a long war.

It depends on theor understanding of your reasons.

No, it doesn't. One side is reasonable and one side is not. You will see which side gets the support of the bystanders. Hint, it won't be you or Iran.

As well as neither Russians nor Iranians are bloodthristy monsters who kill people for no reason. They are allies of America and America attacked Iran. They can leave the alliance and survive or keep fighting and finally die out.

Yeah, keep threatening them with "die out". That will prove that you are not bloodthirsty monsters.

You know, you guys used to be better at this.

Ever heard about Hezbollah? They are Sunni guys and Iranian proxies. Or about Houthis who are Zaydists? Iranians are wise, pragmatic and tolerant guys (especially comparing with Americans). They can work with anybody.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

Sure buddy.

Listen, I know what it is like to grasp at straws.... Though it has been a long time since I have done so.

Listen closely. COPING, is a way to deal with bad situations, EMOTIONALLY.

It doesn't actually SOLVE any problems.

To SOLVE problems, you need to face them realistically. And then make hard choices.


Your problem is that you have lost a war. You need to face that, and stop throwing men into a meatgrinder.


As it is, Russia will never recover from this. The question is increasingly will Russia even survive the demographic blow that you are inflicting on yourselves.

 

[Zavulon]

Iran isn't "killing" anyone. Not on a large scale, not at this time.

They could and they still can do it. For example, many Gulf countries are totaly depend on desalinated sea-water, and de-salination plants are immobile and pretty vulnerable targets.

No, it's not. This will not be a long war.

Who told you this? Iranians? I doubt it. Neither you, nor China, nor Russia can leave Middle East without big (at least regional) war.

No, it doesn't. One side is reasonable and one side is not. You will see which side gets the support of the bystanders. Hint, it won't be you or Iran.

The thing is, that many Arabs (one can say majority of them) see Russians and Iranians as reasonable guys (who are simply defending themselves) and see Americans as unreasonable, unpredictable and basically evil creatures. They do understand logic of Iran, but they don't understand logic of America. Even myself, studying American logic for years, don't understand why Trump decided to attack now.

Yeah, keep threatening them with "die out". That will prove that you are not bloodthirsty monsters.

Exactly. It's like to say: "You see - we have both reason and opportunity just to kill all of you. But we are not bloodthirsty monsters, the very fact of our dialogue proves it. We prefer to achieve our goals, and the most important of our goals is our self-preservation, without killing you. But even our great patience and kindness have limits."

You know, you guys used to be better at this.



HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,

Sure buddy.

Listen, I know what it is like to grasp at straws.... Though it has been a long time since I have done so.

Listen closely. COPING, is a way to deal with bad situations, EMOTIONALLY.

It doesn't actually SOLVE any problems.

To SOLVE problems, you need to face them realistically. And then make hard choices.


Your problem is that you have lost a war. You need to face that, and stop throwing men into a meatgrinder.


As it is, Russia will never recover from this. The question is increasingly will Russia even survive the demographic blow that you are inflicting on yourselves.

 

[Ringo]

US Secretary of War Hegseth got upset over Russia sharing intelligence with Iran: “We can confirm that Russia is giving Iran information. This is a major betrayal that should not have happened. They say they are not involved, but they are. This is not playing by the rules.”
It turns out he is even dumber than Kamala...

 

[Correll]

They could and they still can do it. For example, many Gulf countries are totaly depend on desalinated sea-water, and de-salination plants are immobile and pretty vulnerable targets.

Got it. Threaten mass murder though dying of thirst. Good plan.

Who told you this? Iranians? I doubt it. Neither you, nor China, nor Russia can leave Middle East without big (at least regional) war.

I figured it out, from how badly the Iranians are being blown up. THey are not going to be able to... put up with that for long. THey are going to have to surrender in one form or another.

The thing is, that many Arabs (one can say majority of them) see Russians and Iranians as reasonable guys (who are simply defending themselves) and see Americans as unreasonable, unpredictable and basically evil creatures. They do understand logic of Iran, but they don't understand logic of America. Even myself, studying American logic for years, don't understand why Trump decided to attack now.

No, they don't. THey might talk shit pretending that they think that, but on the other hand, you are doing shit like talking about how you want Iran to cause them to DIE OUT, by destroying their water supply.

Which is it? Are you about to commit genocide on them, or are you nice and reasonable? You can't be both.

Exactly. It's like to say: "You see - we have both reason and opportunity just to kill all of you. But we are not bloodthirsty monsters, the very fact of our dialogue proves it. We prefer to achieve our goals, and the most important of our goals is our self-preservation, without killing you. But even our great patience and kindness have limits."

Stop coping. Face reality and figure a way out of this so you can start working on trying to save Russia.

Cause right now, you are actively killing Russia. EVERY DAY.

 

[eagle1462010]

US Secretary of War Hegseth got upset over Russia sharing intelligence with Iran: “We can confirm that Russia is giving Iran information. This is a major betrayal that should not have happened. They say they are not involved, but they are. This is not playing by the rules.”
It turns out he is even dumber than Kamala...

Russia has been assisting these fcks for 47 years.

But you are shocked now? LMAO

 

[Zavulon]

Got it. Threaten mass murder though dying of thirst. Good plan.

Better than surrender to the mercy of Americans and allow them to turn Iran in another Iraq or Lybia.
So yes, "if you don't f#ck off, we'll kill you".

And as if it wasn't US-led coalition who destroyed water supply in Raqqa (and another Iraqi cities), who destroyed all life-support in Gaza or who destroyed water supply to Crimea and Donetsk and who recently attacked desalination plants on Qeshm Island (Iran).

If they don't want to be hit, they should be really neutral. And being really neutral means that they arrest US soldiers and put them in detention camps until end of the war.

I figured it out, from how badly the Iranians are being blown up. THey are not going to be able to... put up with that for long. THey are going to have to surrender in one form or another.

Not necessarily. With flow of supply from Russia and China they can fight as long as they wish.

No, they don't. THey might talk shit pretending that they think that, but on the other hand, you are doing shit like talking about how you want Iran to cause them to DIE OUT, by destroying their water supply.

No. We prefer them live, safe and Russia-friendly (or at least neutral) to them dying out. But we definitely prefer their dying out to US occupation of Iran.

Which is it? Are you about to commit genocide on them, or are you nice and reasonable? You can't be both.

We can and we are. We could and probably should commit genocide on them, but we prefer to talk and try to find mutually acceptable solution (safety and prosperity to everyone) exactly because we are pretty nice and reasonable guys.

Stop coping. Face reality and figure a way out of this so you can start working on trying to save Russia.

First thing (like elimination of the immediate threat) first.

Cause right now, you are actively killing Russia. EVERY DAY.

Don't be such a princess. See it as a purge. We need to de-nazificate Ukraine before rejoin it. No pain - no gain.

 

[Zavulon]

Russia has been assisting these fcks for 47 years.

But you are shocked now? LMAO

As if NATO doesn't support Nazi regimes in Baltic states and Ukraine. Quid pro quo. And no, we are just warming up. Just wait a little until Iran brings war in the USA itslef with Chinese ships and Russian missiles (may be, with nuclear warheads).

 

[Correll]

Better than surrender to the mercy of Americans and allow them to turn Iran in another Iraq or Lybia.
So yes, "if you don't f#ck off, we'll kill you".

And as if it wasn't US-led coalition who destroyed water supply in Raqqa (and another Iraqi cities), who destroyed all life-support in Gaza or who destroyed water supply to Crimea and Donetsk and who recently attacked desalination plants on Qeshm Island (Iran).

If they don't want to be hit, they should be really neutral. And being really neutral means that they arrest US soldiers and put them in detention camps until end of the war.


Not necessarily. With flow of supply from Russia and China they can fight as long as they wish.


No. We prefer them live, safe and Russia-friendly (or at least neutral) to them dying out. But we definitely prefer their dying out to US occupation of Iran.


We can and we are. We could and probably should commit genocide on them, but we prefer to talk and try to find mutually acceptable solution (safety and prosperity to everyone) exactly because we are pretty nice and reasonable guys.


First thing (like elimination of the immediate threat) first.


Don't be such a princess. See it as a purge. We need to de-nazificate Ukraine before rejoin it. No pain - no gain.

You have talked yourself into a corner and are spamming word salad now.


This clash with Iran is unlikely to last long. Enjoy it while it lasts, but once it is over, you are still in the same situation.

ie stuck in a meatgrinder.

 

[Zavulon]

This clash with Iran is unlikely to last long.

Why do you think so? Even if you run away now, Iran won't stop.

Enjoy it while it lasts, but once it is over, you are still in the same situation.

Of course no. Situation is escalating.

ie stuck in a meatgrinder.

Of course no. Right after you show here a video of you, buying $100 worth drinks and random guys drinking it for the health of Zavulon, we'll be able to make our bets about what American, European or Israili base will be nuked first.

 

[eagle1462010]

As if NATO doesn't support Nazi regimes in Baltic states and Ukraine. Quid pro quo. And no, we are just warming up. Just wait a little until Iran brings war in the USA itslef with Chinese ships and Russian missiles (may be, with nuclear warheads).

There you go again Ivan. Threatening Nuclear War. Go figure.

 

[Ringo]

There you go again Ivan. Threatening Nuclear War.

The only language the pedophile western elite understands, Fritz. But some of them are so crazy, that they’re building bunkers, hoping to survive the apocalypse. Unlike you.

 

[eagle1462010]

The only language the pedophile western elite understands, Fritz. But some of them are so crazy, that they’re building bunkers, hoping to survive the apocalypse. Unlike you.

Why the **** would you want to survive a nuclear war? So you can get radiation sickness and die a horrible death?

Your side bunkers or none will neet the same fate.

 

[Correll]

Why do you think so? Even if you run away now, Iran won't stop.

No one is running away. You need to be less silly.

Of course no. Situation is escalating.

How? They have nothing. You have nothing you can spare.

Of course no. Right after you show here a video of you, buying $100 worth drinks and random guys drinking it for the health of Zavulon, we'll be able to make our bets about what American, European or Israili base will be nuked first.

Get back to me when the nukes are flying. Until then I won't believe it. Sorry.

 

[Zavulon]

No one is running away. You need to be less silly.

If no one is running away, escalation is inevitable. And either it means American attempt of ground invasion or nuclear escalation. But I very doubt that Iran will surrender even after few nuclear strikes.

How? They have nothing. You have nothing you can spare.

How wrong you are.

Get back to me when the nukes are flying.

And even then you'll say that you don't believe in deliberate nuclear attack on the USA.

Until then I won't believe it. Sorry.

If US (and Russian) decision-makers are playing by the book, and if this book is Herman Kahn's "On escalation", and if they decided to escalate, then after "world-wide embargo", step 20, there will be step 21 "Local nuclear war - exemplary".

 

[Zavulon]

Why the **** would you want to survive a nuclear war? So you can get radiation sickness and die a horrible death?

Your side bunkers or none will neet the same fate.

Actually, radiation pollution will be quite limited, and in a week it will be perfectly safe.

 

[Zavulon]

The only language the pedophile western elite understands, Fritz. But some of them are so crazy, that they’re building bunkers, hoping to survive the apocalypse. Unlike you.

They do know Russians (or they think so). Russians are good and kind people, not prone to committing genocide without practical reasons and wishing to make peace (on mutually acceptable terms) as soon as possible.
If American government accepts Russian peace terms after first Russian counter-force strike, Russia won't kill millions of personally innocent American civilians.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Russia has been assisting these fcks for 47 years.

But you are shocked now? LMAO

Yes, because this is different.

See if you can spot how.

 

[Zavulon]

Yes, because this is different.

And how is it different? And how is it different from US assisting Ukraine and Baltic states?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And how is it different?

Well, we have been at war Iran for 2 weeks, not 47 years. Russia has been at war with our ally Ukraine for 4 years, not 47 years.

That's your only hint.

 

[Zavulon]

Well, we have been at war Iran for 2 weeks, not 47 years.

Technically, you are not at war even now. And you weren't at peace since the Revolution, and sometimes this not peace was pretty hot (like during Iraqi-Iranian war).

Russia has been at war with our ally Ukraine for 4 years, not 47 years.

Some Ukrainians believe that Russia was in war with Ukraine for more than a thousand years (or at least, since 2014). And no, it's not a war, too.