Blacks may be disadvantaged statistically (and I disagree with most), but is that not mostly their own fault? And they deserve preferential treatment and eliminating whites as a result? (equal qualifications in mind of course).
I'm not sure what you mean by "eliminating whites", jim.
Of course i am aware that schools are funded by local tax money, and I think that is a racist system. Maybe its crazy, but I think all children should have easy access to the same quality schools, and I think that quality should be high. But as it is, the quality of a school is directly related to the tax bracket of the area, which is why, in Chicago for example, the schools in the near suburbs are among the best in the country and the schools in the city are among the worst. A ten mile difference is a difference of planets. So tell me, have you ever heard the phrase "social justice"? Do you really think that it is acceptable that the quality of the education you receive in a public school should be dependent on the neighborhood your parents can afford to live in? And yes, in many cases it is a matter of the schools falling apart and over crowding. They should drive or walk to the schools in the other neighborhoods? You might as well ask them to fly, there, jim. You suppose their parents or parent, as the case may be, doesn't have to hold two or three McJobs just to pay the rent, buy the food, and buy the bus ticket to get back and forth to work? You really think a seven year old black kid is going to take the responsibility of getting himself over to the school where the rich kids go so that he can be harrassed by them in the hallways, and harrassed by the police walking home? Are you for real?
Here is some information from a report published by the Institue of Medicine in 2002.
The odds of not having necessary angiography are 49% higher among African-American patients, compared with white ones.
African-American and Hispanic children with asthma are 31% and 42% less likely, respectively, than their white peers to be using inhaled anti-inflammatory medication, even when they share similar insurance and sociodemographic characteristics.
Only 46% of elderly African-Americans receive flu shots, compared with 68% of whites.
http://www.ama-assn.org/sci-pubs/amnews/amn_03/edsa0414.htm
And here is some information on loan discrimination from your home town.
Even blacks with incomes above $60,000 were rejected more often than whites with incomes under $40,000, with 20 percent of the blacks turned down compared with 17 percent of the whites.
http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~jbex/ny-lend.html
(the number of articles with regard to this issue was astounding.)
For the job discrimination, you conceded to me with the caveat that it's probably just because they're inferior candidates. For one, that blatantly ignores the whole scenario which was agreed upon, that the candidates are otherwise equal, unless you're willing to assume that they couldn't be equal because one is black and one is white, in which case you've proven my point.
And as for the IQ argument, it's shit. If my IQ is 40 points above the average white american's IQ, should I put it on my job or loan application? Should I have explained it to the cop that maced me and beat the shit out of me and CHARGED ME WITH ASSAULTING A POLICE OFFICER just because I was walking home drunk to my apartment in a predominantly black neighborhood? The cop swore up and down I was on crack, and when the test results came back that mother fucker was eating more than crow. Or how about when they pulled me over driving to work at least once a month? Funny, I drive the same in a white neighborhood as in a black neighborhood, but I've never been pulled over driving in a white neighborhood. If my IQ is 20 above the average white american's, should I discriminate against white americans? Should all white americans with only an average IQ be ghetoized and sent to plainly inferior shools? I happen to know that the difference between my own IQ and the average white American's is double the difference between the average white American and a certified retard. Does that give me the right to assume that every time I see a white person I'm probably looking at a very inferior dolt? I'd like to know what our President's IQ is. That mother fucker can barely speak.
IQ is something that changes with culture. Have you taken an IQ test lately? I have. I was surprised to see that they gave me a higher IQ score because I knew the Pythagorian theorem and was familiar with one of Socrates's most famous quotes. You think that kind of information is something you might just learn at school? Does it mean you're less intelligent if you haven't read Socrates? Which is more different from the rest, Jim, a coconut, a grape, a banana, an apple, or a pear? Do you really want to say that someone who doesn't answer this correctly is less intelligent, and that it explains why so many black people are in the clink?
On the other hand, there is evidence that "intelligence" is a genetically linked trait. So if black people, like horses and cows, were being selectively bred in this country to produce bigger and stronger slaves for a hundred and fifty years, do you think that should permit us to discriminate against them 'cause we weren't selecting for intelligence? You think its unreasonable to chose the black man, all other cualifications being equal, when this country was created in part on the backs of free black labor? If IQ scores can increase with education (and I know they can) and IQ is also a genetically linked trait, doesn't that suggest that over time, given the same access to education and jobs, that their average IQ would probably improve? And don't you think it might even be cheaper than keeping 5% of them behind bars?
And finally, regarding national crime statistics, yes. I do believe that the propensity to resort to violent crime has alot to do with the life opportunities that life presents you with. I think it has a lot to do with your environment. I think it has a lot to do with being angry and I can tell you right now, the average black man in the United States has a lot more to be angry about than you. On the other hand, I haven't seen too many black people flush the retirement packages of thousands of people down the toilets lately. I haven't seen many black people manipulating markets or brutally eliminating competition. There aren't many black people that get to carry home salaries of ten million a year and cut 40,000 jobs in the same year. Blacks are not to blame for the destruction of the ozone layer and the subsequent ignoring of the consequences. Blacks don't spend my tax money on useless billion dollar a pop defence items when there are people who can't even get decent medical care. They never stole from me but some of my best friends have. John Coltrane kicks Kenny Gs ass all over the fucking place, and that's a fact. A black man befriended and saved the life of my grand father in WWII, but my grandfather never invited him to his house after the war. My grand father has West Virginia coal miner in him from both sides. What's your excuse?
I don't go out and picket or degrade any race at all. In fact, some of my closest friends at that very place I worked with were spanish and black.
