Rousey v Holm

[mudwhistle]

Btw, most boxers fight once or twice a year and she's fought several times this year....so STFU.

Never pick (or accept) a fight you can't or aren't willing to do whatever is necessary to win. Ronda Roisey apparently forgot that bit of advice.

Apparently you believe in hand-picked fights. Boxer's like Floyd Mayweather, who fight once in a blue moon and and usually after another fighter has passed his prime.

I figure the big rush will be to get a rematch with Holly Holm before somebody takes the title from her.

 

[mudwhistle]

I saw a match she lost to some tall girl from the Nederlands. She lost on one point in the gold period....sudden death. Up to then it was a scoreless tie....so I can see her frustration. I just think their scoring system is too subjective and open to interpretation.

I agree that pretty much ALL "Judged" aports are far too open to interpretation. Including Boxing and MMA. In the fight sports it should be "On" until someone submits or is knocked out. No rounds. No points. "Kill" or be "Killed".

Yeah....sure....right....uh-huh!
The Olympics will not allow killing to be part of their events.

 

[Montrovant]

Yep, being the first ever women's bantamweight champ and having 7 successful defenses of that title does not separate her from any other 'wanna be'.

Ahe was GIVEN the title. To her credit she didn't want it to be GIVEN, but Dana White insisted.so her first fight should have been to DETERMINE the Champion, not defend it. After that she had five victories before getting her ass kick last weekend.

In a fight it's win or "die". So in my mind Ronda "died" last week.

She was 'given' the UFC title in that they carried over the Strikeforce title she had won.

She had 6 UFC title defenses prior to the Holm fight. She had 1 Strikeforce title defense.

 

[Anathema]

Apparently you believe in hand-picked fights. Boxer's like Floyd Mayweather, who fight once in a blue moon and and usually after another fighter has passed his prime.

Not quite. I belueve a Champion should be required to defend at least twice a year. The organization would pick the #1 contender and the Champ can choose to fight them or surrendee their title without a fight. In such a case, Ronda would hsve been smart to surrender her title once she realized she had no chsnce.

I figure the big rush will be to get a rematch with Holly Holm before somebody takes the title from her.

It's not going to happen. I don't belueve you'll see Ronda in the Octagon again against anyone. I certainly won't pay to watch her fight again.

 

[Montrovant]

Well, I'm not that shallow. She's a person and people lose sometimes. That is just life. Get used to it unless you want to be a dysfunctional tard like the poster above you.

You nay nit be, but a,large portion of the world is. Ronda had not lost in the MMA world prior to last weekend.

Her last loss prior to that was at the 2008 Olympic judo tournament. A loss that so frustrated her that even going on to earn a bronze medal in the tournament wasn't enough to overcome it.

Part if Ronda Rousey's "draw" was her "I'll do anything to win" and "I'd rather die than lose" attitude. That all burst like a soap bubble last Saturday. Now there's really nothibg to separate her from any other wanna be.

I saw a match she lost to some tall girl from the Nederlands. She lost on one point in the gold period....sudden death. Up to then it was a scoreless tie....so I can see her frustration. I just think their scoring system is too subjective and open to interpretation.

There's a good reason for the cliche 'never leave it in the hands of the judges'. Judged competition is always subjective and what seems like a clear victory can be judged a defeat. I am pretty sure I'd be frustrated too.

 

[Anathema]

Yeah....sure....right....uh-huh! The Olympics will not allow killing to be part of their events.

Kill in a metaphorical sense. Total defeat might be a better phrase.

Oh, and I have no use for the Olympics to begin with, so I don't care what they will or won't accept.

 

[Anathema]

She was 'given' the UFC title in that they carried over the Strikeforce title she had won.

She had 6 UFC title defenses prior to the Holm fight. She had 1 Strikeforce title defense.

We're arguing semantics which mean nithing at this point. She's no longer the Champion and never will be again. She's a has-been in a sport where yesterday means nothing.

 

[Montrovant]

I saw a match she lost to some tall girl from the Nederlands. She lost on one point in the gold period....sudden death. Up to then it was a scoreless tie....so I can see her frustration. I just think their scoring system is too subjective and open to interpretation.

I agree that pretty much ALL "Judged" aports are far too open to interpretation. Including Boxing and MMA. In the fight sports it should be "On" until someone submits or is knocked out. No rounds. No points. "Kill" or be "Killed".

That's almost surely not feasible both because of time constraints and because of the likelihood of fights becoming too slow and boring as the rounds progress and the fighters are out of energy.

Definitive wins are, of course, optimal, but in MMA I think judges are an inevitability.

 

[Montrovant]

She was 'given' the UFC title in that they carried over the Strikeforce title she had won.

She had 6 UFC title defenses prior to the Holm fight. She had 1 Strikeforce title defense.

We're arguing semantics which mean nithing at this point. She's no longer the Champion and never will be again. She's a has-been in a sport where yesterday means nothing.

She might not be champion again, but other fighters have lost and regained titles in the past. There's no reason Rousey couldn't do the same.

 

[Anathema]

That's almost surely not feasible both because of time constraints and because of the likelihood of fights becoming too slow and boring as the rounds progress and the fighters are out of energy.

Definitive wins are, of course, optimal, but in MMA I think judges are an inevitability.

Then maybe these boys and girls need to learn to BRAWL rather than dancing, which us what way too many of them do now.

 

[Anathema]

She might not be champion again, but other fighters have lost and regained titles in the past. There's no reason Rousey couldn't do the same.

I dont believe she wants to take that chance. Everything I've seen in the last week suggests Rousey is in a deeper funk than what she was in after the 2008 Olympics. That funk lead her to take a tear off after which she decided to Judo mat permanently.

 

[mudwhistle]

Apparently you believe in hand-picked fights. Boxer's like Floyd Mayweather, who fight once in a blue moon and and usually after another fighter has passed his prime.

Not quite. I belueve a Champion should be required to defend at least twice a year. The organization would pick the #1 contender and the Champ can choose to fight them or surrendee their title without a fight. In such a case, Ronda would hsve been smart to surrender her title once she realized she had no chsnce.

I figure the big rush will be to get a rematch with Holly Holm before somebody takes the title from her.

It's not going to happen. I don't belueve you'll see Ronda in the Octagon again against anyone. I certainly won't pay to watch her fight again.

Oh...so.she should just throw in the towel if she starts getting a few licks upside her head?

What are you.....retarded?

Somebody must have driven your head into the mat one too many times.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah....sure....right....uh-huh! The Olympics will not allow killing to be part of their events.

Kill in a metaphorical sense. Total defeat might be a better phrase.

Oh, and I have no use for the Olympics to begin with, so I don't care what they will or won't accept.

I'm sure they have no use for your sorry ass either...

 

[mudwhistle]

That's almost surely not feasible both because of time constraints and because of the likelihood of fights becoming too slow and boring as the rounds progress and the fighters are out of energy.

Definitive wins are, of course, optimal, but in MMA I think judges are an inevitability.

Then maybe these boys and girls need to learn to BRAWL rather than dancing, which us what way too many of them do now.

Brawling can get you disqualified in Olympic competition.

 

[Anathema]

Oh...so.she should just throw in the towel if she starts getting a few licks upside her head?

What are you.....retarded?

Somebody must have driven your head into the mat one too many times.

No. If she can't block the kicks she shouldn't get into the ring with her to begin with. Heroes who rush into things generally die/lose. Sun Zhu reminds us that the warrior who can force the battle onto their terns most often wins. If you cannot force the battle onto your terms it is,best to avoid it or to fall on your own sword honorably rather than being defeated in battle.

 

[Anathema]

Brawling can get you disqualified in Olympic competition.

That's nice. I was referring to tbe MMA world. Way too much dancing around, even in the Holm-Rousey fight, for my tastes.

As for the Olympics, I couldn't care less about either of those events (Summer or Winter); and they have zero interest in my opinion either.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh...so.she should just throw in the towel if she starts getting a few licks upside her head?

What are you.....retarded?

Somebody must have driven your head into the mat one too many times.

No. If she can't block the kicks she shouldn't get into the ring with her to begin with. Heroes who rush into things generally die/lose. Sun Zhu reminds us that the warrior who can force the battle onto their terns most often wins. If you cannot force the battle onto your terms it is,best to avoid it or to fall on your own sword honorably rather than being defeated in battle.

That kick was delivered as she was getting up from the floor after she fell down from swinging a wild punch. MMA doesn't have a standing 8 count. Her back was turned.

I can tell you know nothing about streetfighting.....and that is practically what MMA is.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Ronda Rousey got knocked the fuck out tonight by Holly Holm. First loss! It's like seeing Tyson get knocked out by James Buster Douglas.

someone tweeted on Fred Roggins radio sports show that Ronda Rousey losing this fight reminded him of Rocky 3 where Rocky got so much focused on Fame that he lost to Clubber Lang in his first fight with him.

Rocky 3 is such an accurate film in the way it is in real life the way a fighter stops getting hungry and loses their edge.

Tyson got so much focused on fame that he stopped training hard and was out of shape when he faced Douglass and as a result,got knocked out.

Then what was funny bout it was same thing happened to Douglass.He got so wrapped up in beating Tyson thinking he was so great that he got fat and out of shape and in his next fight against Ivander Holifield,he got knocked out as well.

same thing happened to Rousy.She was very much out of shape in that fight and thats because she lost her edge because she was focused on fame and not hungry anymore.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It's second rate sports, I can't get excited about women in sporting events.

So you like to watch men sweating but not women, interesting...

Interesting indeed.

mens boxing does nothing for me,give me the women any day of the year.

 

[mudwhistle]

Brawling can get you disqualified in Olympic competition.

That's nice. I was referring to tbe MMA world. Way too much dancing around, even in the Holm-Rousey fight, for my tastes.

As for the Olympics, I couldn't care less about either of those events (Summer or Winter); and they have zero interest in my opinion either.

The dancing around was Holly Holmes style. It's called kick-boxing. I would have grabbed and tied her up instead of exchanging kicks and punches.