Romney deliberately lost election

[TheGreatGatsby]

I think what they really did was in effect sign a contract that was broken by the companies.

What often happens is they leverage themselves right into bankruptcy. Happens all the time. Making Romney the villain isn't going to change that reality.

I dont have to make him a villain, he made himself one. And I think he was the perfect foil for Obamas run. The country was rightfully upset with crooked bankers and scum wheeler-dealers like Romney. The money manipulators behind the scenes thought theyd throw up a shill everyone would love to hate...in order to get another patsy into office.


And I think they're gong to do it again.......Hillary is a sure loser......a proven loser......so she is blocking any halfway, partially legitimate democrat......Cruz has the rhetoric of an outsider but the resume of an insider,...so he is the shill blocking Paul. And Christy is busy making the rounds "redeeming" himself courtesy of the networks, to be the next financial patsy president.

Re: 2016 Prez

I think we'll get a loser prez no matter what, and I don't pay much attention to the media spew anymore.

Re: Romney

Sorry, but you can find countless of stories of Romney not acting like the cut-throat business man that the left made him out to be. Sometimes, he said or did stuff that wasn't fully in touch with the common man. But really, he's a guy who understands systems and how to get them working right. You don't pick a computer repair man based on how he picks an NCAA bracket. And like I've said, I don't even think Romney did lose. Obama had ballot stuffers in all the swing states. That was the real sham.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Obama won by lying to the American and covering up his corruptions.. The oath of office means nothing to him, much like Clinton,.They're both traitors and Democrats love them for it...

 

[dcraelin]

What often happens is they leverage themselves right into bankruptcy. Happens all the time. Making Romney the villain isn't going to change that reality.

I dont have to make him a villain, he made himself one. And I think he was the perfect foil for Obamas run. The country was rightfully upset with crooked bankers and scum wheeler-dealers like Romney. The money manipulators behind the scenes thought theyd throw up a shill everyone would love to hate...in order to get another patsy into office.

And I think they're gong to do it again.......Hillary is a sure loser......a proven loser......so she is blocking any halfway, partially legitimate democrat......Cruz has the rhetoric of an outsider but the resume of an insider,...so he is the shill blocking Paul. And Christy is busy making the rounds "redeeming" himself courtesy of the networks, to be the next financial patsy president.

Re: 2016 Prez
I think we'll get a loser prez no matter what, and I don't pay much attention to the media spew anymore.
Re: Romney
Sorry, but you can find countless of stories of Romney not acting like the cut-throat business man that the left made him out to be. Sometimes, he said or did stuff that wasn't fully in touch with the common man. But really, he's a guy who understands systems and how to get them working right. You don't pick a computer repair man based on how he picks an NCAA bracket. And like I've said, I don't even think Romney did lose. Obama had ballot stuffers in all the swing states. That was the real sham.

Well I agree with you on loser presidents...the system seems designed to give us such. (which means Romney would have been one also)

Romney and his company did understand how to manipulate the tax code and navigate their way through the financial gimmicks. Romney seems like a very pleasant man......but he is a front, a figurehead,....the power behind him was surely purely self-interested, and bad for the country.

I too think there well could have been ballot fraud.....but not against Romney.....It was more likely to tamp down the independent, libertarian, and green vote......polls consistently say people want a third party.....I have never seen so much interest in one as in 2012, but somehow it didnt show up in the ballot box.....hmmmm.

 

[Impenitent]

Liberals mercilessly decry
Romney's religion is a cult
It's so unfair to imply
A baseless and cheap insult

"Black Liberation Theology"

Some will win, some will lose
Southern Steel, AMPAD, KB Toys
Poor Mitt, the liberals accuse
What spurious tactics they employ

"Solyndra"

Don't give me vulture capitalist crap
You can't even make me look
I expect him to ply his craft
I don't care about deductions he took

"Socialist"

What is there not to like of Ann
Beauty, grace, honesty and humility
I get it you people aren't fans
A dutiful wife and a family of tranquility

"Moochelle"

Liberals quickly play the race card
When Mitt just tells a joke
That is such a misleading canard
They twist, they lie, and they poke

"Kenyan"

Liberal fact checkers misrepresent
Our political rhetoric and contribution
Fox has a right to truth and dissent
A free press is guaranteed by the constitution

"Lame-stream Media"

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

I dont have to make him a villain, he made himself one. And I think he was the perfect foil for Obamas run. The country was rightfully upset with crooked bankers and scum wheeler-dealers like Romney. The money manipulators behind the scenes thought theyd throw up a shill everyone would love to hate...in order to get another patsy into office.

And I think they're gong to do it again.......Hillary is a sure loser......a proven loser......so she is blocking any halfway, partially legitimate democrat......Cruz has the rhetoric of an outsider but the resume of an insider,...so he is the shill blocking Paul. And Christy is busy making the rounds "redeeming" himself courtesy of the networks, to be the next financial patsy president.

Re: 2016 Prez
I think we'll get a loser prez no matter what, and I don't pay much attention to the media spew anymore.
Re: Romney
Sorry, but you can find countless of stories of Romney not acting like the cut-throat business man that the left made him out to be. Sometimes, he said or did stuff that wasn't fully in touch with the common man. But really, he's a guy who understands systems and how to get them working right. You don't pick a computer repair man based on how he picks an NCAA bracket. And like I've said, I don't even think Romney did lose. Obama had ballot stuffers in all the swing states. That was the real sham.

Well I agree with you on loser presidents...the system seems designed to give us such. (which means Romney would have been one also)

Romney and his company did understand how to manipulate the tax code and navigate their way through the financial gimmicks. Romney seems like a very pleasant man......but he is a front, a figurehead,....the power behind him was surely purely self-interested, and bad for the country.

I too think there well could have been ballot fraud.....but not against Romney.....It was more likely to tamp down the independent, libertarian, and green vote......polls consistently say people want a third party.....I have never seen so much interest in one as in 2012, but somehow it didnt show up in the ballot box.....hmmmm.

Manipulate the tax code or operate within the tax code? Why would Romney pay one more red cent to a wasteful govt. than he has to? Seriously?

Again, Romney would be a lot richer if he had stayed out of politics. And he would have done so without a lot of whiny bitches being up in his bizzo. You're totally miscalculating the money angle. Politicians like Obama who never made it in private enterprise do use govt. to enrich himself and his benefactors. Romney and Obama are not the same person--not even close.

You're delusional about the third party fraud, imo. They were never going to be a factor in the election. They simply didn't have the support. I hope more parties do rise to prominence. But I won't believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories to that end. The reality is that Obama did a lot of illegal fund raising and he paid off a lot of people to get the results he wanted. And the reason it's never gonna come out anytime soon is that the govt. controlled media will not be having that.

 

[Wolfstrike]

you guys are going to be hearing a lot about Romney.
when the sht hits the fan for obamacare, the media will be talking about how much was passed by republican traitors like romney

 

[dcraelin]

Re: 2016 Prez
I think we'll get a loser prez no matter what, and I don't pay much attention to the media spew anymore.
Re: Romney
Sorry, but you can find countless of stories of Romney not acting like the cut-throat business man that the left made him out to be. Sometimes, he said or did stuff that wasn't fully in touch with the common man. But really, he's a guy who understands systems and how to get them working right. You don't pick a computer repair man based on how he picks an NCAA bracket. And like I've said, I don't even think Romney did lose. Obama had ballot stuffers in all the swing states. That was the real sham.

Well I agree with you on loser presidents...the system seems designed to give us such. (which means Romney would have been one also)

Romney and his company did understand how to manipulate the tax code and navigate their way through the financial gimmicks. Romney seems like a very pleasant man......but he is a front, a figurehead,....the power behind him was surely purely self-interested, and bad for the country.

I too think there well could have been ballot fraud.....but not against Romney.....It was more likely to tamp down the independent, libertarian, and green vote......polls consistently say people want a third party.....I have never seen so much interest in one as in 2012, but somehow it didnt show up in the ballot box.....hmmmm.

Manipulate the tax code or operate within the tax code? Why would Romney pay one more red cent to a wasteful govt. than he has to? Seriously?

Both, lobbying for special loopholes and using them and others for crooked gain. Part of the governt waste s allowing manipulators like Romney (or the real brains behind his company) to use the tax code to make money.

Again, Romney would be a lot richer if he had stayed out of politics. And he would have done so without a lot of whiny bitches being up in his bizzo. You're totally miscalculating the money angle. Politicians like Obama who never made it in private enterprise do use govt. to enrich himself and his benefactors. Romney and Obama are not the same person--not even close.

Didnt say they were the same person, but both front men for establishment crooks. Romney has always been in politics fromthe days when he worked on his fathers campaign to Thedays when he essentially lobbyed and used government influence in his "business".

You're delusional about the third party fraud, imo. They were never going to be a factor in the election. They simply didn't have the support. I hope more parties do rise to prominence. But I won't believe in cockamamie conspiracy theories to that end. The reality is that Obama did a lot of illegal fund raising and he paid off a lot of people to get the results he wanted. And the reason it's never gonna come out anytime soon is that the govt. controlled media will not be having that.

Even a few percentage points one way or the other in a close race between the puppet parties would make a difference. But tampening down 3rd party suport is part of maintaining the puppet parties, thats why ballot access laws are rigged against them.

 

[dcraelin]

The only reason Romney would get involved in yet another presidential run is to throw it again. Perhaps the establishment will want him to run to interfere with Paul's run.


Romney's return to public life stokes speculation about potential 2016 run | Fox News

 

[dcraelin]

the only reason FOX news would report on a supposed Romney run is to give this discredited hack (and the "republican" sell-outs that supported him) some legitimacy.

And those posting in the below thread are tools of the system

http://www.usmessageboard.com/elect...kes-speculation-about-potential-2016-run.html

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

You're Romney losing on purpose theory loses its fizz when you find that he won independents by ten points. There was shennanigans; but they weren't on Romney's end.

 

[dcraelin]

Mayor's friend could profit from hotel built with taxpayers' money | Feature | Chicago

great article on one of the major contributors to Romney being a good friend of Rahm Emanuel....current Mayor of Chicago and former Chief of staff I believe to Obama.

Also the brother of one of the architects, I think, of the so-called "affordable" health care plan.

 

[dcraelin]

You're Romney losing on purpose theory loses its fizz when you find that he won independents by ten points. There was shennanigans; but they weren't on Romney's end.

well, more americans than ever are calling themselves independents. And with the teaparty prominence in recent years I would think it would trend republican.

found article that said "In 2008, many independents who voted for Obama also voted for President George W. Bush in his 2004 contest against Massachusetts Senator John Kerry." ....maybe in 2012 they just found their way back.

another site I went to says he only won independents by 5% overall
perhaps both sides were robbing the 3rd party vote.

state by state numbers also important...I dont think it damages the theory.

this article Larry J. Sabato's Crystal Ball » Setting the Record Straight: Correcting Myths about Independent Voters
actually said
"in fact, in all three closely contested presidential elections since 1972, the candidate backed by most independent voters lost."

 

[dcraelin]

And now I see another "centrist" sell-out hack is thinking of running for office

Jeb?s awkward entry into the 2016 presidential race

"Mr. Bush serves as a paid director to Tenet Health Care, the giant hospital owner, which supported President Obama's Affordable Care Act, ...

 

[dcraelin]

A new article on how Romney-care in Massachusetts got (and still gets) extra dollars from the federal government. Seems maybe string-pullers wanted to set up Romney-care as a "good model" for healthcare reform ...to push for Obama/Romney-care on national level.


How Romney paid for Romneycare with federal help - The Washington Post

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

A new article on how Romney-care in Massachusetts got (and still gets) extra dollars from the federal government. Seems maybe string-pullers wanted to set up Romney-care as a "good model" for healthcare reform ...to push for Obama/Romney-care on national level.


How Romney paid for Romneycare with federal help - The Washington Post

Without even reading it, this article can't possibly prove too much. The federal government wants their hand in everything. I'm sure they're giving federal dollars to every state health care system. The Washington Post and Romney haters are just doing their spin. None of this is to say that I want Romney Care. But I won't pretend it's the same thing as Obama Care, which is stripping Constitutional rights, left and right.

 

[dcraelin]

A new article on how Romney-care in Massachusetts got (and still gets) extra dollars from the federal government. Seems maybe string-pullers wanted to set up Romney-care as a "good model" for healthcare reform ...to push for Obama/Romney-care on national level.
How Romney paid for Romneycare with federal help - The Washington Post

Without even reading it, this article can't possibly prove too much. The federal government wants their hand in everything. I'm sure they're giving federal dollars to every state health care system. The Washington Post and Romney haters are just doing their spin. None of this is to say that I want Romney Care. But I won't pretend it's the same thing as Obama Care, which is stripping Constitutional rights, left and right.

Well, without rereading it, I believe it states that the feds are going beyond the norm in Massachusetts. And did before the passage of Obama/Romney care.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

A new article on how Romney-care in Massachusetts got (and still gets) extra dollars from the federal government. Seems maybe string-pullers wanted to set up Romney-care as a "good model" for healthcare reform ...to push for Obama/Romney-care on national level.
How Romney paid for Romneycare with federal help - The Washington Post

Without even reading it, this article can't possibly prove too much. The federal government wants their hand in everything. I'm sure they're giving federal dollars to every state health care system. The Washington Post and Romney haters are just doing their spin. None of this is to say that I want Romney Care. But I won't pretend it's the same thing as Obama Care, which is stripping Constitutional rights, left and right.

Well, without rereading it, I believe it states that the feds are going beyond the norm in Massachusetts. And did before the passage of Obama/Romney care.

They probably are going beyond the norm. Mass. is very govt-centric relative to most states.

 

[dcraelin]

A new article on how Romney-care in Massachusetts got (and still gets) extra dollars from the federal government. Seems maybe string-pullers wanted to set up Romney-care as a "good model" for healthcare reform ...to push for Obama/Romney-care on national level.
How Romney paid for Romneycare with federal help - The Washington Post

Without even reading it, this article can't possibly prove too much. The federal government wants their hand in everything. I'm sure they're giving federal dollars to every state health care system. The Washington Post and Romney haters are just doing their spin. None of this is to say that I want Romney Care. But I won't pretend it's the same thing as Obama Care, which is stripping Constitutional rights, left and right.

Well, without rereading it, I believe it states that the feds are going beyond the norm in Massachusetts. And did before the passage of Obama/Romney care.

They probably are going beyond the norm. Mass. is very govt-centric relative to most states.

well no I meant the federal government is going beyond the norm and went beyond the norm in funding romney-care

 

[dcraelin]

just thought of another wrinkle

What did Clint say about Romney?....."he can't do that to himself"

Maybe Clint knew....that's exactly what he was doing to himself, throwing the election.

 

[dcraelin]

The news is full of Romeny's supposed exploration of yet another presidential run. If he does run, it will most likely be to insure that Obama/Romney care stays up and running. He will likely be used as a shill to interfere with legitimate republican candidates