Rolling Stone Opinion Piece on Carson vs. Makin is what you would expect

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The progressive tears taste like ambrosia in the article.

The Supreme Court Just Fused Church and State — and It Has Even Uglier Plans Ahead

Parents could use the tuition assistance to send their children to private school, but Maine prohibited parents from using the money to attend a religious school. The rationale behind that carve-out was that the First Amendment’s prohibition on establishing a religion, so the state banned its tax dollars from going to religion. Sounds straightforward and reasonable enough, but not to this Supreme Court. This court, dominated by conservative Christians, has almost never faced a claim brought by a religious entity that it didn’t agree with.

Not reasonable at all, because it means the government discriminates against religious schools simply because they are religious in the matter at hand.

So the ruling wasn’t much of a surprise, but it’s still a shock to the American system of government. The schools that asked for public tax dollar support from Maine have discriminatory admissions and hiring policies against gay and trans people as well as those who are non-Christian. No matter to this court. If Maine is funding allows tuition assistance to go to any private school, it has to allow the funding to go to religious schools as well, even ones with discriminatory policies. Chief Justice Roberts, writing for himself and the other five conservatives on the Court (Justices Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett), explained that “a state need not subsidize private education. But once a State decides to do so, it cannot disqualify some private schools solely because they are religious.”

Here we see the crux of their angst, because some religious schools don't allow openly gay or trans people as faculty. It all goes back to the LGBT agenda for these people.

. The First Amendment protects freedom of religion, but it also guarantees a separation between church and state. This requires a fine balance, but as Justice Breyer notes in dissent, the court is now paying almost exclusive attention to the first part while ignoring the second. Justice Sotomayor puts an even finer point on it in her own dissent, saying that rather than being a constitutional requirement, “the Court leads us to a place [today] where separation of church and state becomes a constitutional violation.” Stated differently, with this court, what conservative Christians want, conservative Christians get. Because apparently that’s what the Constitution requires.

More wrong interpretations, and from SC Justices no less.

The 1st prevents ESTABLISHMENT of a National Religion, it doesn't mean the government has to be HOSTILE to religion. Hell, before the 14th amendment and incorporation, individual States could theoretically have had an established State religion.
 
No private school should receive government money...


In this case the government didn't setup public schools in range of the students above a certain grade, so they gave the money to the parents, i.e. citizens, to then use to spend on schooling via private schools.
 
The progressive tears taste like ambrosia in the article.

The Supreme Court Just Fused Church and State — and It Has Even Uglier Plans Ahead



Not reasonable at all, because it means the government discriminates against religious schools simply because they are religious in the matter at hand.



Here we see the crux of their angst, because some religious schools don't allow openly gay or trans people as faculty. It all goes back to the LGBT agenda for these people.



More wrong interpretations, and from SC Justices no less.

The 1st prevents ESTABLISHMENT of a National Religion, it doesn't mean the government has to be HOSTILE to religion. Hell, before the 14th amendment and incorporation, individual States could theoretically have had an established State religion.


This is the same organization that wrote a review of "what is a woman" and called it hate speech, anti trans and a lot of other degrading verbage. The author watched 0 of the movie and it's creator provides the proof they did not watch it.

 
No private school should receive government money...
That's discrimination. First of all, the Federal government has no business running education. The Constitution doesn't mandate it. The states should oversee education for their citizens. Secondly, people should have a choice where to educate their children.
 
That's discrimination. First of all, the Federal government has no business running education. The Constitution doesn't mandate it. The states should oversee education for their citizens. Secondly, people should have a choice where to educate their children.

If a school is charging parents tuition, they should not get taxpayer dollars.

Period.
 
If a school is charging parents tuition, they should not get taxpayer dollars.

Period.
I don't see why not. Let's make schools the best they can be. Let's pay good teachers well and pay bad teachers so little they find something else to do. Get rid of the unions while we're at it.
 
The progressive tears taste like ambrosia in the article.

The Supreme Court Just Fused Church and State — and It Has Even Uglier Plans Ahead



Not reasonable at all, because it means the government discriminates against religious schools simply because they are religious in the matter at hand.



Here we see the crux of their angst, because some religious schools don't allow openly gay or trans people as faculty. It all goes back to the LGBT agenda for these people.



More wrong interpretations, and from SC Justices no less.

The 1st prevents ESTABLISHMENT of a National Religion, it doesn't mean the government has to be HOSTILE to religion. Hell, before the 14th amendment and incorporation, individual States could theoretically have had an established State religion.

Rolling Stone also faked an entire series of stories about college campus rape, and gave the Boston Marathon terrorist a glamor cover picture.

Anyone using the magazine for anything other than toilet paper is an idiot.
 
If a school is charging parents tuition, they should not get taxpayer dollars.

Period.





The problem with that is many poor people would love to send their kids to private schools. A voucher system enables them to do that. Otherwise, private schools will remain the domain of the elites, able to actually provide a good education to children, while everyone else is consigned to oblivion.
 
An asinine comment not requiring a response...
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Rolling Stone also faked an entire series of stories about college campus rape, and gave the Boston Marathon terrorist a glamor cover picture.

Anyone using the magazine for anything other than toilet paper is an idiot.

Good for getting a read on the mindset of the opposition.
 
Thomas Jefferson would certainly be interested in this pathology. Complications of OP's argument are that the Catholic puppet now in the White House has future infectious problems besides Chinese viruses that link to 9-11:


18 Jun 2022 China Launches Its 1000-Schools Project in Iraq
'....first educationa project between China and lraq.'

1,000 Schools
'....a wider agreement, reached last November between Iraq and China, to build 7,000 schools.'
 
Why?

Why should vouchers not be something used to fix our current educational issues?

The idea that a private school would get taxpayer funds, while collecting (what is normally) exorbitant tuitions from parents just doesn't sit well with me.

I'd like to think a workable solution could be found...
 
I don't see why not. Let's make schools the best they can be. Let's pay good teachers well and pay bad teachers so little they find something else to do. Get rid of the unions while we're at it.

Well, the initial problem I see there is that you want to pay bad teachers. I would prefer they be fired...
 
The problem with that is many poor people would love to send their kids to private schools. A voucher system enables them to do that. Otherwise, private schools will remain the domain of the elites, able to actually provide a good education to children, while everyone else is consigned to oblivion.

But that doesn't solve the problem of shitty public schools, and that problem needs to be addressed...
 

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