Roger Stone's only crime was helping Trump get elected...

[Leo123]

So you are saying that Mueller raided Stone’s house just for (fun) the heck of it?

Could be he was looking for more evidence because he has very little now.

 

[bripat9643]

Russians aren't subject to U.S. law, so your first claim is absurd. Wikileaks committed no crimes, so your second claim is also ridiculous. Whether it's "common sense" to investigate people who contacted Wiklileaks, the point is that it's not a proper subject of Mueller's so-called investigation. It's only "common sense" if you endorse witch hunts.

If emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks the there is a crime. Agreed?

The crime wasn't committed by Wikileaks, so it's irrelevant. News outlets like NYT, WAPO and CNN were the recipients of many illegal leaks, but I don't see you calling for these firms to be investigated or their executives arrested.

It’s not irrelevant. A crime is a crime. If you are investigating the crime you start by questioning those involved. That’s how every investigation is conducted. When people lie they get looked into more. This isn’t rocket science.

If somebody gives illegally obtained intel to the WAPO then you can bet that investigators will be looking into people who were in contacted with reporters from WAPO. Do you really not understand how this works?

So it doesn't matter who committed the crime? You wouldn't have a problem with being arrested if your neighbor robbed the liquor store?

You're a moron, of course.

Wikileaks wasn't involved in committing the crime. Furthermore, Mueller hasn't questioned Assange or Wikileaks.

Illegally leaked information definitely was given to WAPO, and Mueller doesn't give a flying ****. He's only targeting associates of Donald Trump.

This is a witch hunt. Do you really not understand how this works?

I would expect to be questioned if my neighbor robbed a liquor store and if I lied while being questioned I’d expect the probe would focus hard on me. If a crime was uncovered during that probe then I’d assume I’d be arrested. I do see how you’d expect anything different to happen in that situation

Spare us. The premise of this analogy is that the cops know who did it. We also know Wikileaks didn't steal anything.

FAIL

 

[bripat9643]

Who the **** cares about Roger Stone?

We know Stalinists like you that don't care if people are railroaded and persecuted. That's what makes you a Stalinist.

Shouldn't lie to the FBI. Everyone knows that. Why do you think certain people should be exempt from the law?

He isn't accused of lying to the FBI, moron. He's accused of lying to Congress. However, the following people lied to Congress and haven't been charged with any felonies:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. James Comey
3. John Brennan
4. Jim Clapper
5. Andrew McCabe
6. Peter Strozk
7. Lisa Page
8. Sally Yates
9. Bruce Ohre
10. Rod Rosenstein

You have AG, POTUS, FBI director that are Republicans.
What are they waiting for to get these people investigated?

But you have republicans investigating a Republican POTUS.
Isn’t that odd?

There are total of 7 on going investigation against your messiah right now. That doesn’t even include Mueller.

The FBI director is a spineless bureaucrat. Rosenstein is implicated in the FISA warrant scandal. Until these men are gone, nothing will be done.

 

[bripat9643]

Russians aren't subject to U.S. law, so your first claim is absurd. Wikileaks committed no crimes, so your second claim is also ridiculous. Whether it's "common sense" to investigate people who contacted Wiklileaks, the point is that it's not a proper subject of Mueller's so-called investigation. It's only "common sense" if you endorse witch hunts.

It’s not imabsurd at all, several Russians have all ready been indicted for their crimes during the election. Get a clue

They have committed no crimes as far as the Russian government is concerned. Their indictments were a Mueller diversion.

Who gives a shot what the Russians are concerned about? We have US laws, of those laws are broken they are crimes. I thought you all were supporters of law and order? How do you not know this stuff?

ROFL! The idea that the US can enforce its laws on foreigners doesn't pass the laugh test. Would you allow Russia to impose some arcane law on U.S. citizens? Of course not. We all know that not even you believes this tripe. Indicting Russians who have never set foot in this country is a joke. I can't believe a judge allowed this. Of course, Mueller is very careful to submit his indictments to Obama appointees who don't give a crap about what the law actually allows.

Are you high or just changing the conversation because you can’t debate the topic at hand? I never said anything about enforcement. I’m talking about crimes, plain and simple. Why are you bringing up enforcement? Has nothing to do with this conversation.

They aren't crimes in Russia, moron. Of course enforcement is an issue. What's the point of indictments that aren't enforceable? They are purely for show.

 

[Erinwltr]

If emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks the there is a crime. Agreed?

The crime wasn't committed by Wikileaks, so it's irrelevant. News outlets like NYT, WAPO and CNN were the recipients of many illegal leaks, but I don't see you calling for these firms to be investigated or their executives arrested.

It’s not irrelevant. A crime is a crime. If you are investigating the crime you start by questioning those involved. That’s how every investigation is conducted. When people lie they get looked into more. This isn’t rocket science.

If somebody gives illegally obtained intel to the WAPO then you can bet that investigators will be looking into people who were in contacted with reporters from WAPO. Do you really not understand how this works?

So it doesn't matter who committed the crime? You wouldn't have a problem with being arrested if your neighbor robbed the liquor store?

You're a moron, of course.

Wikileaks wasn't involved in committing the crime. Furthermore, Mueller hasn't questioned Assange or Wikileaks.

Illegally leaked information definitely was given to WAPO, and Mueller doesn't give a flying ****. He's only targeting associates of Donald Trump.

This is a witch hunt. Do you really not understand how this works?

I would expect to be questioned if my neighbor robbed a liquor store and if I lied while being questioned I’d expect the probe would focus hard on me. If a crime was uncovered during that probe then I’d assume I’d be arrested. I do see how you’d expect anything different to happen in that situation

Spare us. The premise of this analogy is that the cops know who did it. We also know Wikileaks didn't steal anything.

FAIL

Jebuz. Are you still awake, bripat? Found some really nasty gin, I take it.
USMB TATOO.

 

[bripat9643]

Russians aren't subject to U.S. law, so your first claim is absurd. Wikileaks committed no crimes, so your second claim is also ridiculous. Whether it's "common sense" to investigate people who contacted Wiklileaks, the point is that it's not a proper subject of Mueller's so-called investigation. It's only "common sense" if you endorse witch hunts.

If emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks the there is a crime. Agreed?

I agree that Wikileaks committed no crime and shouldn't be the subject of Mueller's witch hunt.

Who do you think committed the crime when it comes to hacking the DNC and Russian interference in the election? If you don’t know who, then how would you go about finding out who was associated and responsible? Come on dazzle us with your brilliant plan

You'll have to excuse me if I can't explain how to conduct a witch hunt. What an honest man would do is drop the whole thing, but Mueller has no shame. He will continue far beyond any norms of justice or common decency.

I’m not asking how to conduct a witch hunt, I’m asking how you would conduct a proper investigation. But I guess you are dodging because the answer would fall right in line with what Mueller is doing. Wow, you are bad at debating.

Yes, you are asking how to conduct a witch hunt. If this was an honest investigation, it would have been over two years ago. There's nothing proper about investigating Stone or Wikileaks. There's nothing proper about the entire investigation. No crime is being investigated. Trump associates are being targeted, and than makes it a witch hunt.

 

[bripat9643]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Helping somebody get elected is not a crime. Breaking the law is a crime and he broke several laws. Why are these basic things so hard for some people to grasp?

What’s does it have to do with Russia collusion?

Possibly a lot if he was conspiring with Wikileaks but we shall see how the trial goes. You do admit he broke the law right? If in the course of the investigation they found that he murdered somebody do you think it should be ignored by authorities because it doesn’t have anything to do with Russian collusion? What a silly argument.

Even Mueller doesn't believe anyone in the Trump campaign "conspired" with Wikileaks.

At this point we have no evidence that Stone broke any laws. Stone shouldn't even have been interrogated by Mueller because talking to Wikileaks is not a crime. Why should Mueller be investigating non-crimes?

So you are saying that Mueller raided Stone’s house just for (fun) the heck of it?

He did it because he's getting paid to do it. The longer he can prolong this farce, the longer he gets paid.

 

[Slade3200]

I would expect to be questioned if my neighbor robbed a liquor store and if I lied while being questioned I’d expect the probe would focus hard on me. If a crime was uncovered during that probe then I’d assume I’d be arrested. I do see how you’d expect anything different to happen in that situation

Yes but that scenario is not a good comparison. A better comparison would be that you get questioned over and over, make a minor misstatement, and get arrested for 'lying.' No prosecutor would accept that as evidence for an indictment.

Yeah that would be shitty, but I seriously doubt that is what happened with Stone. I guess we will see.

 

[Slade3200]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Helping somebody get elected is not a crime. Breaking the law is a crime and he broke several laws. Why are these basic things so hard for some people to grasp?

Because they have 0 to do with Russian 'collusion' which is what Mueller is supposed to be investigating.

So if they come across a crime that has nothing to do with Russian collusion do you they they should just ignore it? What point are you trying to make here?

 

[Slade3200]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Helping somebody get elected is not a crime. Breaking the law is a crime and he broke several laws. Why are these basic things so hard for some people to grasp?

But you can't really name the laws that he broke before the FBI started questioning him.
His biggest crime was not remembering an email here or there.

First of all you do t know what intel the FBI had when they started the investigation. Second, the eveidemce that we have seen about his relationships with Wikileaks and know statements is plenty of reason to question him. If he lied or co tradicted himself during questioning that warrants digging deeper. Why is he lying? Lastly if a crime is uncovered in this process they have every right to act on it. I don’t see what your issue is?

 

[Slade3200]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Helping somebody get elected is not a crime. Breaking the law is a crime and he broke several laws. Why are these basic things so hard for some people to grasp?

But you can't really name the laws that he broke before the FBI started questioning him.
His biggest crime was not remembering an email here or there.

It's impossible to NOT LIE to a federal prosecutor who is determined to make you a
liar. Mueller is the cop that smashes out your break lights with his nightstick then gives you a citation for equipment failure.

Jo

Yeah it’s easy. You just tell the truth or say you don’t remember if you aren’t sure.

 

[Slade3200]

If emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks the there is a crime. Agreed?

The crime wasn't committed by Wikileaks, so it's irrelevant. News outlets like NYT, WAPO and CNN were the recipients of many illegal leaks, but I don't see you calling for these firms to be investigated or their executives arrested.

It’s not irrelevant. A crime is a crime. If you are investigating the crime you start by questioning those involved. That’s how every investigation is conducted. When people lie they get looked into more. This isn’t rocket science.

If somebody gives illegally obtained intel to the WAPO then you can bet that investigators will be looking into people who were in contacted with reporters from WAPO. Do you really not understand how this works?

So it doesn't matter who committed the crime? You wouldn't have a problem with being arrested if your neighbor robbed the liquor store?

You're a moron, of course.

Wikileaks wasn't involved in committing the crime. Furthermore, Mueller hasn't questioned Assange or Wikileaks.

Illegally leaked information definitely was given to WAPO, and Mueller doesn't give a flying ****. He's only targeting associates of Donald Trump.

This is a witch hunt. Do you really not understand how this works?

I would expect to be questioned if my neighbor robbed a liquor store and if I lied while being questioned I’d expect the probe would focus hard on me. If a crime was uncovered during that probe then I’d assume I’d be arrested. I do see how you’d expect anything different to happen in that situation

Spare us. The premise of this analogy is that the cops know who did it. We also know Wikileaks didn't steal anything.

FAIL

You are trying so hard but failing so bad. You have yet to explain any of your idiotic statements that I’ve easily exposed as irrational. Keep moving the goalpost though, it’s like catching fish in a barrel

 

[Slade3200]

It’s not imabsurd at all, several Russians have all ready been indicted for their crimes during the election. Get a clue

They have committed no crimes as far as the Russian government is concerned. Their indictments were a Mueller diversion.

Who gives a shot what the Russians are concerned about? We have US laws, of those laws are broken they are crimes. I thought you all were supporters of law and order? How do you not know this stuff?

ROFL! The idea that the US can enforce its laws on foreigners doesn't pass the laugh test. Would you allow Russia to impose some arcane law on U.S. citizens? Of course not. We all know that not even you believes this tripe. Indicting Russians who have never set foot in this country is a joke. I can't believe a judge allowed this. Of course, Mueller is very careful to submit his indictments to Obama appointees who don't give a crap about what the law actually allows.

Are you high or just changing the conversation because you can’t debate the topic at hand? I never said anything about enforcement. I’m talking about crimes, plain and simple. Why are you bringing up enforcement? Has nothing to do with this conversation.

They aren't crimes in Russia, moron. Of course enforcement is an issue. What's the point of indictments that aren't enforceable? They are purely for show.

Again, who gives a shit if they are crimes in Russia, we are USA. If they break US law then they get arrested if they come here or else they could get sanctioned, depends on the situation. But when you claim there are no crimes you are straight up lying. Punishment doesn’t have to be inflicted to validate that a crime was committed. You are tripping all over yourself.

 

[Slade3200]

If emails were stolen and given to Wikileaks the there is a crime. Agreed?

I agree that Wikileaks committed no crime and shouldn't be the subject of Mueller's witch hunt.

Who do you think committed the crime when it comes to hacking the DNC and Russian interference in the election? If you don’t know who, then how would you go about finding out who was associated and responsible? Come on dazzle us with your brilliant plan

You'll have to excuse me if I can't explain how to conduct a witch hunt. What an honest man would do is drop the whole thing, but Mueller has no shame. He will continue far beyond any norms of justice or common decency.

I’m not asking how to conduct a witch hunt, I’m asking how you would conduct a proper investigation. But I guess you are dodging because the answer would fall right in line with what Mueller is doing. Wow, you are bad at debating.

Yes, you are asking how to conduct a witch hunt. If this was an honest investigation, it would have been over two years ago. There's nothing proper about investigating Stone or Wikileaks. There's nothing proper about the entire investigation. No crime is being investigated. Trump associates are being targeted, and than makes it a witch hunt.

No, I’m askimg how you would conduct a proper investigation. I understand you are calling this a witch hunt. But you can’t seem to answer how you would conduct the investigation. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about and it shows.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Why are RWNJs working so hard to excuse the blatant crimes that have and continue to take place right under our noses?

Even you find some way to tell yourself magat is telling the truth and its your own "lying eyes" that are wrong, Stone et al have anything BUT innocent victims.

 

[H B Lowrie]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Were Roger and Roy Cohn lovers? We know Don abandoned Roy when he was dying of AIDS.

 

[bripat9643]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Helping somebody get elected is not a crime. Breaking the law is a crime and he broke several laws. Why are these basic things so hard for some people to grasp?

But you can't really name the laws that he broke before the FBI started questioning him.
His biggest crime was not remembering an email here or there.

First of all you do t know what intel the FBI had when they started the investigation. Second, the eveidemce that we have seen about his relationships with Wikileaks and know statements is plenty of reason to question him. If he lied or co tradicted himself during questioning that warrants digging deeper. Why is he lying? Lastly if a crime is uncovered in this process they have every right to act on it. I don’t see what your issue is?

There is no reason to question him since no crimes are being investigated.

 

[bripat9643]

...all the rest is bullshit.

Why are RWNJs working so hard to excuse the blatant crimes that have and continue to take place right under our noses?

Even you find some way to tell yourself magat is telling the truth and its your own "lying eyes" that are wrong, Stone et al have anything BUT innocent victims.

What crimes, asshole?

 

[bripat9643]

The crime wasn't committed by Wikileaks, so it's irrelevant. News outlets like NYT, WAPO and CNN were the recipients of many illegal leaks, but I don't see you calling for these firms to be investigated or their executives arrested.

It’s not irrelevant. A crime is a crime. If you are investigating the crime you start by questioning those involved. That’s how every investigation is conducted. When people lie they get looked into more. This isn’t rocket science.

If somebody gives illegally obtained intel to the WAPO then you can bet that investigators will be looking into people who were in contacted with reporters from WAPO. Do you really not understand how this works?

So it doesn't matter who committed the crime? You wouldn't have a problem with being arrested if your neighbor robbed the liquor store?

You're a moron, of course.

Wikileaks wasn't involved in committing the crime. Furthermore, Mueller hasn't questioned Assange or Wikileaks.

Illegally leaked information definitely was given to WAPO, and Mueller doesn't give a flying ****. He's only targeting associates of Donald Trump.

This is a witch hunt. Do you really not understand how this works?

I would expect to be questioned if my neighbor robbed a liquor store and if I lied while being questioned I’d expect the probe would focus hard on me. If a crime was uncovered during that probe then I’d assume I’d be arrested. I do see how you’d expect anything different to happen in that situation

Spare us. The premise of this analogy is that the cops know who did it. We also know Wikileaks didn't steal anything.

FAIL

You are trying so hard but failing so bad. You have yet to explain any of your idiotic statements that I’ve easily exposed as irrational. Keep moving the goalpost though, it’s like catching fish in a barrel

You have only exposed your own irrationality and stupidity. You lack the capacity to commit logic.

 

[bripat9643]

I agree that Wikileaks committed no crime and shouldn't be the subject of Mueller's witch hunt.

Who do you think committed the crime when it comes to hacking the DNC and Russian interference in the election? If you don’t know who, then how would you go about finding out who was associated and responsible? Come on dazzle us with your brilliant plan

You'll have to excuse me if I can't explain how to conduct a witch hunt. What an honest man would do is drop the whole thing, but Mueller has no shame. He will continue far beyond any norms of justice or common decency.

I’m not asking how to conduct a witch hunt, I’m asking how you would conduct a proper investigation. But I guess you are dodging because the answer would fall right in line with what Mueller is doing. Wow, you are bad at debating.

Yes, you are asking how to conduct a witch hunt. If this was an honest investigation, it would have been over two years ago. There's nothing proper about investigating Stone or Wikileaks. There's nothing proper about the entire investigation. No crime is being investigated. Trump associates are being targeted, and than makes it a witch hunt.

No, I’m askimg how you would conduct a proper investigation. I understand you are calling this a witch hunt. But you can’t seem to answer how you would conduct the investigation. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about and it shows.

Nope. A proper investigation wouldn't be targeting people who haven't committed any crimes. In the first place, it would be investigating an actual crime. Where's the crime? The words "proper investigation" and the Mueller witch hunt have no connection with each other.