Rittenhouse jury just went to deliberate

[sealybobo]

What was different? That is a pointless endevor. Lets address what was the same:

1. there were guns present
2.


Nope, that is it. Oh wait,

2. they were on planet earth.

There, that's 2 things.
They were not even operating under the same legal structure. Why don't we compare this to an old lady crossing the road? It would be just as relevant.

So the people in Detroit who had guns need to wise up. Bring bigger guns. Get into an altercation in the casino, say, "let's take this outside" go to your car, get a gun and shoot the guy coming to fight you in the name of self defense.

There's a lot that's similar to these two cases. People brought guns out with them and they used them when things got hot. Seems the ghetto has to play by different rules here.

Every shooting in Chicago is justified. Him or me. Don't worry about all the killings in Chicago. All justified. Problem solved. Self defense.

Same story as Rittenhouse. They were coming at me and I had no choice.

 

[JWBooth]

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

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Wendy Rittenhouse is at least twice as proud of Kyle as most mothers are of their children.

Kyle doubled his Johnny Ramone quota.

 

[WEATHER53]

Justice is done
Venting is started.

 

[john doe 101]

No, they just made you look like the asshole you are. Keep backpedaling. I’m just enjoying mopping the floor with you.

Backpedaling from what? That I repeatedly said there was a 70% Kyle would be found innocent of all charges? Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Justice is done
Venting is started.

...and commies are dead.

What a great week.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Unedited video of the KR shootings. He obviously was attacked and was running for his life when he was attacked from behind.

150% self defense. They say it's "graphic" but its too dark to see anything but someone falling down.

 

[hadit]

Exactly. So you agree Rittenhouse is stupid and his stupidity got people killed.

Are you not forgetting the stupids that were already there and willing to be a vigilante (lynch) mob?

 

[FA_Q2]

So the people in Detroit who had guns need to wise up. Bring bigger guns. Get into an altercation in the casino, say, "let's take this outside" go to your car, get a gun and shoot the guy coming to fight you in the name of self defense.

There's a lot that's similar to these two cases. People brought guns out with them and they used them when things got hot. Seems the ghetto has to play by different rules here.

Every shooting in Chicago is justified. Him or me. Don't worry about all the killings in Chicago. All justified. Problem solved. Self defense.

Same story as Rittenhouse. They were coming at me and I had no choice.

"There's a lot that's similar to these two cases. People brought guns out with them and they used them when things got hot"

And yet, once again, the ONLY thing you can show that is similar is that there were guns. That's it. Not a single other demonstrable connection. INCLUDING THE LAWS THEY WERE OPERATING UNDER.

How disingenuous can you get.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Unedited video of the KR shootings. He obviously was attacked and was running for his life when he was attacked from behind.

150% self defense. They say it's "graphic" but its too dark to see anything but someone falling down.

I am so glad he shot those motherfuckers.

My they rot in peace.

Let there be more.

 

[sealybobo]

I am so glad he shot those motherfuckers.

My they rot in peace.

Let there be more.

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he traveled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot. So, why is it reasonable to believe Rittenhouse needed a killing machine to protect himself against the “evil thugs” who were not shooting and killing people?

Only white people’s perceptions are made into a reality that everyone else must abide by. Think about how much privilege one must have for their feelings to become an actual law that governs the actions of people everywhere.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out, there’s also no doubt that Rittenhouse was venturing into one of the scariest, most dangerous situations those white jurors could imagine: a Black Lives Matter protest. It is easy to see how, for Rittenhouse and jurors, the victims were part of the frightening mob of “evil thugs”.

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Understanding the innate fear of Blackness embedded in the American psyche does not require legal scholarship or a judge’s explanation. This belief shapes public perception, politics and the entire criminal justice system. And it is indeed a privilege only afforded to whiteness.

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officersfrom the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he traveled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot. So, why is it reasonable to believe Rittenhouse needed a killing machine to protect himself against the “evil thugs” who were not shooting and killing people?

Only white people’s perceptions are made into a reality that everyone else must abide by. Think about how much privilege one must have for their feelings to become an actual law that governs the actions of people everywhere.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out, there’s also no doubt that Rittenhouse was venturing into one of the scariest, most dangerous situations those white jurors could imagine: a Black Lives Matter protest. It is easy to see how, for Rittenhouse and jurors, the victims were part of the frightening mob of “evil thugs”.

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Understanding the innate fear of Blackness embedded in the American psyche does not require legal scholarship or a judge’s explanation. This belief shapes public perception, politics and the entire criminal justice system. And it is indeed a privilege only afforded to whiteness.

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officersfrom the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot.

Before four criminals attacked him, no one else had been shot.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out,

No doubt?

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Why would anyone in America be scared of black people?

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life,

No reason to fear that knife, eh?
No reason to stop the guy from stealing the car and kidnapping the kids?
It's not like he had a restraining order, or a history of domestic abuse, right?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

Race is only relevant because you fucking commies need a class war to start your cocksucking revolution, and there are no classes in America, si you've turned to racial division.

however, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he traveled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine

First off, name the type and caliber of firearm that is not a killing machine.

No provocation. Zero. None.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot.

Why the fuck is that relevant? I know you idiot think that's a good point, but how does that help your case? 'Splain it to the class (this should be funny).

Only white people’s perceptions are made into a reality that everyone else must abide by

You mean......REALITY??

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

No it's not. They ain't scary. Sorry.

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officersfrom the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary

You don't know the facrs.

First off, let me stab you a few hundred times with a pocket knife. But, its not the mere possession of a weapon that makes a person dangerous. Yelling, pointing it at people who are not a threat themselves, refusing to obey police orders to drop the weapon. These are the relevant factors.

Again, you don't know shit and neither did the thousands of idiots who rioted in Kenosha. Jacob Black was trying to fuck with his ex.

 

[Correll]

Not guilty on all counts? What is wrong with us?

The dude was chased by a mob and defended himself. Seriously, it should not have been brought to trial.

You need to look past your... you know what, try this.


CHECK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.

 

[hadit]

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he traveled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot. So, why is it reasonable to believe Rittenhouse needed a killing machine to protect himself against the “evil thugs” who were not shooting and killing people?

Only white people’s perceptions are made into a reality that everyone else must abide by. Think about how much privilege one must have for their feelings to become an actual law that governs the actions of people everywhere.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out, there’s also no doubt that Rittenhouse was venturing into one of the scariest, most dangerous situations those white jurors could imagine: a Black Lives Matter protest. It is easy to see how, for Rittenhouse and jurors, the victims were part of the frightening mob of “evil thugs”.

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Understanding the innate fear of Blackness embedded in the American psyche does not require legal scholarship or a judge’s explanation. This belief shapes public perception, politics and the entire criminal justice system. And it is indeed a privilege only afforded to whiteness.

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officersfrom the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary.

You're certainly desperate to make this a race thing, aren't you? The bottom line remains, a white guy shot some white guys. The only big black scary thing involved was the gun.

 

[Correll]

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

However, under Wisconsin’s self-defense statutes, Rittenhouse was allowed to use deadly force, even if he provoked the 25 August attack, if he “reasonably believed” it was necessary to prevent his own death. Even though he traveled to the city and walked into a chaotic scene with a killing machine.

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot. So, why is it reasonable to believe Rittenhouse needed a killing machine to protect himself against the “evil thugs” who were not shooting and killing people?

Only white people’s perceptions are made into a reality that everyone else must abide by. Think about how much privilege one must have for their feelings to become an actual law that governs the actions of people everywhere.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out, there’s also no doubt that Rittenhouse was venturing into one of the scariest, most dangerous situations those white jurors could imagine: a Black Lives Matter protest. It is easy to see how, for Rittenhouse and jurors, the victims were part of the frightening mob of “evil thugs”.

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Understanding the innate fear of Blackness embedded in the American psyche does not require legal scholarship or a judge’s explanation. This belief shapes public perception, politics and the entire criminal justice system. And it is indeed a privilege only afforded to whiteness.

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life, but Rittenhouse was allowed to waltz past officersfrom the same police department carrying a killing machine during chaotic protests. They did not see the gun-toting teenager as a threat. He is not Black. He was not scary.

An angry, violent mob attacking you, is not scary by "white people’s perceptions " but by anyone's perceptions.


Because, in point of FACT, being attacked by an angry violent mob, is very dangerous. Fear is the rational response.


Rittenhouse, before he was attacked, used that rifle to DETER violence and aggression. That was the plan. The group he was with stood there and defended that property.


It was only when Rittenhouse was ALONE, that the mob felt that it could take him and attacked.


Without the CHOICES AND ACTIONS of the mob, Rittenhouse would have never fired that rifle. It would not have been a "killing machine" but a "deterring violence and arson" machine.


The choice that changed that, and the RESPONSIBILITY for that, was on the rioters that attacked Rittenhouse.


America today, is a BETTER society, with more JUST laws, because of this verdict, then if it went the other way.

 

[FA_Q2]

When white people find Black protesters scary, and white vigilantes heroic, where does that leave the legal concept of ‘reasonable belief’?

We will talk about that when it happens.

That you cannot separate this from race, as you have demonstrated over and over again in this thread, is because you are a racist, not everyone around you.

When color is ALL you can see and all you can base your argument around, even to the point that an altercation involving exactly zero people that were not white AND the ONLY indication of racism from ANYONE WHATSOEVER what one of the guys getting shot yelling n***** at Rittenhouse.

It is fucking amazing that the racial essentialists, the ones that declare virtually everything to be racist including 'punctuality' and 'hard work' are openly defending the only racist here or simply pretending he does not exist. You are one of these idiots, stop demanding everything is always and forever about race - the VAST majority of people in this country of all persuasions just do not give a rats ass about race at all.

 

[sealybobo]

Before Rittenhouse killed two people and wounded another, no one else had been shot.

Before four criminals attacked him, no one else had been shot.

While there is no doubt about the value of the white lives Rittenhouse snuffed out,

No doubt?

In America, it is reasonable to believe that Black people are scary.

Why would anyone in America be scared of black people?

It’s why police officer Rusten Sheskey was not charged with a crime for shooting Jacob Blake seven times in the back and the side. Blake’s pocketknife made Sheskey fear for his life,

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No reason to fear that knife, eh?
No reason to stop the guy from stealing the car and kidnapping the kids?
It's not like he had a restraining order, or a history of domestic abuse, right?

It's just weird a 17 year old white kid can run around with a high powered gun and the white cops don't care but blacks get killed for carrying box cutters.

 

[Correll]

It's just weird a 17 year old white kid can run around with a high powered gun and the white cops don't care but blacks get killed for carrying box cutters.

The cops correctly identified that the 17 year old white kid was not the problem. Indeed, he was part of the solution.


If that is weird to you, maybe you need to check your assumptions.

 

[sealybobo]

The cops correctly identified that the 17 year old white kid was not the problem. Indeed, he was part of the solution.


If that is weird to you, maybe you need to check your assumptions.

Bad precedent. In the next protest, how many will go armed? Just hoping someone gets squirly with them. Or triggers someone to get upset in hopes they can shoot. I hope the next event is a Trump rally and a bunch of black gunmen show up to "make sure things don't get out of control".